General Music Chat

I believe that music is sacred. It has been historically used in religious and tribal ceremonies. It also has been used to lead men into battle.
The people of a religion and or tribe identify with the music, dances and the lyrics of the songs. This connects them and strings them together.

So being in a all original band as I am. Our fans to me are like a tribe or extended family. They identify with our music so there for I identify with them.
We bond in a religious fashion.

If you are playing in a copy band you are most likely playing someone?s music that you identify with and attracting parts of their tribe as your fan base.

Remember it only took the music industry about 109 years of work to completely capitalize on it and turn it into a bunch of street bands not getting paid by club owners.

Rock on and thank you all so far for your input to this chat,
Timothy Spider
www.wetthing.org

Absolutely!

All music is religious...but we have different gods.

Absolutely!

All music is religious...but we have different gods.

Rock on dude thanks for your input! Thats most likly why someone got hung on a cross.

Music is a tool
only God is Holy

Music is a tool
only God is Holy

Bingo ...

Philosophers and Mystics believe music to be above the other Arts. In that every other Art is creating a 'sample' of a certain emotion or emotive scene, whereas music 'is' that emotion and therefore exists at a higher level of spirituality.

Music, for Schopenhauer, was the purest form of art because it was the one that depicted the will itself without it appearing as subject to the Principle of Sufficient Grounds, therefore as an individual object. Schopenhauer thought that music was the only art that did not merely copy ideas, but actually embodied the will itself.

"Why is music called the divine art, while all other arts are not so called? We may certainly see God in all arts and in all sciences, but in music alone we see God free from all forms and thoughts. In every other art there is idolatry. Every thought, every word has its form. Sound alone is free from form. Every word of poetry forms a picture in our mind. Sound alone does not make any object appear before us." - Hazrat Inayat Khan (Indian Sufi Master and virtuoso musician)


Music is connecting with the Divine!
This sound has been called the Divine Utterance in Egyptian religion, the Word in the Bible, Naad, Jyoti and Shruti in the Hindu scriptures, Sraosha in the Zoroastrian scriptures, Kalma in the Muslim scriptures, Sonorous Light in the Buddhist scriptures, Naam or Shabd by the Sikhs, and the Theosophists call it the Voice of Silence. It is the power of the Divine manifesting in creation.

When The Divine decided to create, this thought emanated as two principles: Light and Sound. The current of divine light and music was the cause of all creation. This current flows out from The Divine and also returns to The Divine.

The manifestation of music, through musicians here on the Physical is but a reflection of The Divine's inner music.

This music is like a magnetic current that elevates the soul into the spiritual realms beyond. Once we contact that sound, we are enabled to rise far above from mere body-consciousness. That sound fills us with indescribable ecstasy. We become so intoxicated that every pore of our being cries out in ecstasy.

So, in essence when you drink from music you are drinking directly from the Divine.

So, in essence when you drink from music you are drinking directly from the Divine.

It's weird that I find myself agreeing with you so much.

We may disagree on exactly who/what is "divine" but the truth is the Truth, and that is a true statement in my opinion.

God spoke everything we see into existence, which means that everything around us was made with sound waves originally.

Music speaks to the spirit of man in a way nothing else can. With the power of music behind words, one can say impossible things that can ring for eternity.

And music gives a kind of spiritual pleasure that people can not live without.

Of course music is sacred. The Devil wouldn't write so much of it if it wasn't.

It's pretty sacred to me, but I'm aware that there are those who avoid it altogether. So, somewhat.

men love to call temporal things divine, especially if they are in possession of these things, and believe others are not.
dose wonders for the self esteem, and enhances there view of them selves above those who may not be in possession of those same things.
that alone is a lesson in self aggrandizement.

what is even more interesting, a great majority of musicians describe themselves as atheist or at worst agnostics, yet everyone of them will claim to know something about divinity without hesitation.
never could wrap my head around that little contradiction.

Music is a sound, it's here then it's gone,
all other arts can be studied and gone over
in detail.

Sacred to you might not be sacred to someonelse.
Music is beyond religion, it is a sound wave vibrating
at a specified pitch, in a specified place in time.

Religion, politics, sports, mass media, all try to use
music for their gain.

Music is beautiful it can make you laugh,cry,be happy,
or sad, it effects human emotion.

Maybe Man makes temporal things divine, because he feels
the power of the music inside, and doesn't care if anyone
else has music or not, this does wonder for his self esteem
because he knows that this noise is his and he can revel in
his own contentment that this is his.

Jcp you new to this forum, this most definitely is a religous
biased forum, and you and your ilk seem to be the only one's
who spew all your mindless God crap all the time. You don't
know thw mind of God, so why act like you do.

Perhaps everyone of us do know divinity, we just call it
something different, than you bible thumpers, can we call
it "Collective Conscience", maybe instinct, or like an old saying
"JCP you ain't got the brain of a small mouse>"

Maybe that's why you can't wrap your head around that
little contradiction, you got it stuck to far up your azz.

Music is a sound, it's here then it's gone,

Then let's define music.


I hear music in a waterfall, I hear rhythm in the wind, and hear melody in a lion's roar. The earth itself is music. I hear rest in the heavens.

Yes, even rest is music to my spirit. When I say all music is spiritual, I'm not talking about religion.

In not-so-obvious fact, when I talk about God, I'm not talking about religion, because religion is a man-made concept of control and manipulation. The Spirit of Holliness never does that.

Unfortunately religion has soured too many people's opinion of God.







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Music is beauty to my ears and my soul.

Religion hasn't soured my opinion of God, it's
soured my opinion on religion, and the bible
beating zealots, that control todays churches.

All semantics aside, I know God is on my side,
and so does anyone who knows me.

JCP1: what is even more interesting, a great majority of musicians describe themselves as atheist or at worst agnostics...

Even worse than that is someone who pretends to know what agnosticism is.

JCP1: what is even more interesting, a great majority of musicians describe themselves as atheist or at worst agnostics...

Even worse than that is someone who pretends to know what agnosticism is.

it's not like it's a secret