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my 1st album

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/th...ian/id508844239

that is, my 1st for sale to the general public



hey you never know.....................

Best wishes ...

Good for you JC. Now what you have to do is bring as much "foot" traffic as you can.
Now you are on the marketing side of arts. GOOD LUCK MAN!

Congratulations.

Talbot

thank you very much for the well wishes
it was fun.
perhaps with a little airplay over at jango
I just might sell one or two cuts
it's a vanity thing I know
but hey, people have been known to spend more money on less valuable things.

How to make a little money making music: 'Start out with a LOT of money'!
Good luck. Spread the word with all your friends in every network possible.
I've sold as many downloads as hard copies at amazon, almost all with online-networking.

that's what we used to say about dragracing,
"how do you make a million dragracing?
you start with 2 million, when you have lost a mill, you quit and you're a million ahead."

GuitarMikeB wrote:How to make a little money making music: 'Start out with a LOT of money'!
Good luck. Spread the word with all your friends in every network possible.
I've sold as many downloads as hard copies at amazon, almost all with online-networking.

I'm new at all this... But it would seem to me, that a small, modest down pmt of cash, with a contract for percentage, might entice a professional promoter to push and plug the work, more effectively (Including broader scope of online resources). I'm thinking that two things will happen when you make such an offer... The promoter will listen to the tracks, and tell you, either...

1) Sorry, Cant help ya, cause the work won't sell

OR

2) I think the work might sell...But I need you to up your percentage offer.

If its your first CD, remind him/her that you need to recover as much revenue as possible to produce the next CD ...and...does he know of any reliable producers...

Dog

Yeah...but read the fine print. Your promoter has his ass covered well. One dinged me for eighty bucks after a gig because a band I'd been in several years earlier had stiffed him (he claimed).

That said you really do need such a person - you can never tell someone how good you are - you sound like an ass. But someone else can tell any number of lies about how good you are.

Just keep an eye on them.

Talbot

MikeTalbot wrote:Dog

Yeah...but read the fine print. Your promoter has his ass covered well. One dinged me for eighty bucks after a gig because a band I'd been in several years earlier had stiffed him (he claimed).

That said you really do need such a person - you can never tell someone how good you are - you sound like an ass. But someone else can tell any number of lies about how good you are.

Just keep an eye on them.

Talbot

Mike, That was no promoter you dealt with..That guy was an unemployed used Car salesman... LOL.. And I would have told him to kiss my A$$...about that 8o bucks... Funny thing about those guys... They are soooo easy to replace... Would love to have seen his face if you had told him to take you to court for that money HA!

Managers or agents book BANDs with promoters.

Promoters book shows - they arrange venues, guarantees to venues/band, backline, etc.

I never heard of a promoter for CDs/downloads. You can't make a living selling recorded music these days, you can only use it to get people to come to your shows.

GuitarMikeB wrote:Managers or agents book BANDs with promoters.

Promoters book shows - they arrange venues, guarantees to venues/band, backline, etc.

I never heard of a promoter for CDs/downloads. You can't make a living selling recorded music these days, you can only use it to get people to come to your shows.

Jimi Hendrix still earns revenues he could retire on... from his CD sales...And he's dead...

Your theory holds true, if the music being sold, isn't really that appealing

Quite right MikeB, promoters produce live concerts, they have nothing to do with selling or promoting recorded music (CDs).

PaperDog - it's all in the math.

I make less than $3 per CD sale (only that much because it's print-on-demand and I set the sell price); around $5 for in-person sale at a gig.
Less than $5 for a full album download sale.

So, take the average of $4 per sale. If I sell 1000 copies in a year (HA - I wish), that would be $4000. If this was a band's album, I'd be splitting that with 3 or 4 other guys.
We could pull in the same $4000 with 8 medium-size bar gigs to empty houses on weeknights ($500/night).

Think of the big term - Yeah, Hendrix is still selling CDs (got an actual number?) Let's say he gets $1 per copy (record labels take the biggest chunk of profit) and his manager gets 25% of that (in reality there may be others who get their cut, too.)
So, if dead Jimi sells 100,000 copies, he takes home $75,000 (before taxes). Alternately, dead Jimi can play a gig at the big shed outside any major city to a sell out crowd of 25,000 and take home $1 million (at least).
Yes, money from album sales is 'gravy', but it will never be the bread and butter you can live on.

it really doesn't matter in the end.
I spent 60,000 to go drag racing for 4 years,
I spent 5000 to patent an invention that didn't make any money.
god knows what I've spent on musical equipment over the years.

putting a song on Itunes is the cheapest hobby I have ever been involved with.

the only thing I have every made money on was plumbing,
and I'm getting old, and no one cares what you did to advance the sanitary and health conditions of the plumbing industry.