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A MUSIC DISCUSSION THREAD: NOT FOR FAINT HEARTED

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:02 am
by PaperDog
or the broken farted...
ASCAP/BMI/SESAC.
What do yer think bout thisms...

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:45 am
by RGMixProject
It is a "Necessary Evil"

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:55 pm
by J-HALEY
They have to make sure everyone gets their CUT! ESPECIALLY THEMSELVE'S!


Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:53 pm
by PaperDog
DO you guys think ASCAP is benificial? SHould I join them ? and Are they really effectiove in protectiong my rights to roylatlies, etc. OR do they serve as an impediment to emerging song-writers

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:35 pm
by Shapeshifter
I personally belong to BMI, and I think it's certainly better to be safe than sorry. As far as being an impediment, I really can't think of a way that could be true.

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:35 pm
by J-HALEY
When we recorded an album in 1996 one of our band mates did a lot of research and we all agreed BMI was better suited for new artist. I don't remember why!

Posted:
Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:55 pm
by AyrTrayn
If your a prolific writer and your music is going to get passed around. PD I think your stuff is exceptional. Surprised your not being approached by people from a company. If they do get legal advice. I have a friend that regrets being a in house writer BMI's free for writers and composers, ASCAP $35 writer another $35 producer. Frankly you should just consult an attorney anyhow cause your stuffs really nice.

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:52 am
by PaperDog
AyrTrayn wrote:If your a prolific writer and your music is going to get passed around. PD I think your stuff is exceptional. Surprised your not being approached by people from a company. If they do get legal advice. I have a friend that regrets being a in house writer BMI's free for writers and composers, ASCAP $35 writer another $35 producer. Frankly you should just consult an attorney anyhow cause your stuffs really nice.
Ayr What can I say...I truly appreciate your kind words about my stuff... I haven't been approached (yet) by anybody... But I have been asked to return to the Blues Open Mic Jams. This is particularly special to me, because these guys are the real deal... They live , eat breath blues and R & B...and they unanimously asked me back (I got more material to try out) . I'm still in shock...
I think I prolly will join both orgs (ASCAP and BMI)


Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:42 pm
by AyrTrayn
Folks here's something to think about ........... don't sign anything till you hear this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AJxc3Lxn4o

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:53 pm
by Lynard Dylan
I'd seen that video before, and he oughta know.
Make YOUR Music yours

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:44 pm
by PaperDog
AyrTrayn wrote:Folks here's something to think about ........... don't sign anything till you hear this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AJxc3Lxn4o
That is Fookin Awsome! I KNEW that I wasnt going crazy...I have always suspected that The Labels were a sham... Nice to know that there are savvy artists spreadin the gospel....

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:29 pm
by AyrTrayn
All ya need is a bar code and then hello Walmart.
Everyone needs to work Harder and Faster .............so.............. Ivan can make a buck off you at the Fedex Forum setting up your sound and lights.
For a extra fee he will shoot confetti in your fans hair!

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:52 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
That is Fookin Awsome! I KNEW that I wasnt going crazy...I have always suspected that The Labels were a sham... Nice to know that there are savvy artists spreadin the gospel....
I've been telling ya the same thing since I came here. The first step is having good songs on a product that can be sold though. You won't get into Walmart until you've shown a LOT of sales already.
I can't see any difference between BMI and ASCAP yet. There isn't a need for either until your songs are being broadcast or performed by others. I'm on BMI and they send me checks for European performance/radio, but because my publishing is owned by my former label, I have no idea about how they pay royalties in the USA. One of my co-writers is with ASCAP and he also gets screwed by the record company (who owns the publishing).
BMI pays based on reporting information submitted by broadcasting companies, whereas ASCAP will send agents to an area who check into a hotel room and actually monitor radio/tv/live venues

Posted:
Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:45 pm
by Starfish Scott
What's the name of Dick Dale's publishing company?
Ooh Dick Dale says to do the "free gigs" as well...
(gulp) lol

Posted:
Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:15 am
by AyrTrayn
On topic
some may wonder if their music is rocknroll
here's the test: If you can sing the theme to the old Batman TV show to it.
You have rocknroll
