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CREATIVE MUSIC COMPOSITION

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:53 am
by Creedence Clearwater Arrival
Name: FLYING CLOUD NINE

Latest music composition can be heard by googling the following [url]:

http://soundcloud.com/vr_hallock/sympho ... ogue-cloud

Please listen, and leave a comment

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:51 am
by JCP61
decent random composition
good job

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 5:33 pm
by Etu Malku
How marvelous!!! How excellent!!!!
Reminds me of Frank Zappa's "Jazz from Hell"

I tried to contact you but for some reason this idiot forum still hasn't recognized me as a premier member . . . thanks! (been here for quite a while)

Anyway, would you discuss how you composed this, I am most intrigued.

My email is poorbob@verizon.net if you'd rather in private.

EM

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:06 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
sounds like orchestral samples compiled into sound loops...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:58 pm
by Etu Malku
yod wrote:sounds like orchestral samples compiled into sound loops...
It does, and probably is . . . but it is done very intriguingly.

I use a lot of sampled sounds from my own library, programming, real instruments, and combinations of everything (whatever to achieve my sonic vision) . . . but FC9 has a certain 'thing' going on . . . . . . . . . . I WANT TO KNOW!! Muwhahahahahha!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:09 pm
by Starfish Scott
I hear that there "isn't any wind to fill the sails". I found myself waiting for that musical event to occur and to my knowledge, "still no wind".

Entertaining and yet confusing.. lol

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:41 pm
by Creedence Clearwater Arrival
Thank you JCP61, and Etu Malku,
For listening and commenting, even to you, my brothers with the coldest of skeptical hearts. I am in fact one of the coldest.

Randomness can represent the world around us, and even within us, that is out of our own control. I am stepping outside the well-worn ruts of predictable ideas, scales, harmonies, and rhythm. I will even admit to stomping on those ruts, caving them in.

So, As you go through life beware of a continually morphing melancholy peppered with occasional genuine optimistic beauty, returning to strangeness, and mock happiness.

And, What ever you do; Watch out for any returning tuba riff that sounds like an uninvited marching band member busting into the room, who is trying to "change the subject" or lift the mood, when things get too heavy.

FLYING CLOUD NINE
http://soundcloud.com/vr_hallock/sympho ... ogue-cloud

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:58 pm
by JCP61
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:I hear that there "isn't any wind to fill the sails". I found myself waiting for that musical event to occur and to my knowledge, "still no wind".

Entertaining and yet confusing.. lol


you just described the last 20 years of the music industry

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:10 pm
by Etu Malku
Be it known there has been a lot of research and development in artificially intelligent music making (no that FC9 is that), and during my research for my book I have encountered a few of these composers, it is indeed a fascinating venture outside of the conventional crappola that I hear, the redundant regurgitation of things already created.

Music and Culture both wax and wane.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:24 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
FLYING CLOUD NINE wrote:Thank you JCP61, and Etu Malku,
For listening and commenting, even to you, my brothers with the coldest of skeptical hearts. I am in fact one of the coldest.



I wasn't trying to be skeptical. Just answering Etu's question in case you didn't come back to the forums.

I enjoy throwing sounds against the wall to see what sticks quite a lot. Most of what I've written was never released or performed, but rather for the pure enjoyment of following wherever the song would lead.

This link is REAL music:


http://klaq.com/cricket-choir-slowed-down-crickets-sound-like-singers-video/

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:28 pm
by JCP61
Etu Malku wrote:Be it known there has been a lot of research and development in artificially intelligent music making (no that FC9 is that), and during my research for my book I have encountered a few of these composers, it is indeed a fascinating venture outside of the conventional crappola that I hear, the redundant regurgitation of things already created.

Music and Culture both wax and wane.


this doesn't really make sense
how can you have a composer in artificial intelligence music composition?
don't you mean you found some attractive computer generated music?
not really a stretch when you consider that resolved composition is not really higher math.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:50 pm
by PaperDog
Etu Malku wrote:Be it known there has been a lot of research and development in artificially intelligent music making (no that FC9 is that), and during my research for my book I have encountered a few of these composers, it is indeed a fascinating venture outside of the conventional crappola that I hear, the redundant regurgitation of things already created.

Music and Culture both wax and wane.


To What music, specifically are you referring to redundant regurgitation.. who are the artists in question?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:56 pm
by JCP61
yod wrote:
FLYING CLOUD NINE wrote:Thank you JCP61, and Etu Malku,
For listening and commenting, even to you, my brothers with the coldest of skeptical hearts. I am in fact one of the coldest.



I wasn't trying to be skeptical. Just answering Etu's question in case you didn't come back to the forums.

I enjoy throwing sounds against the wall to see what sticks quite a lot. Most of what I've written was never released or performed, but rather for the pure enjoyment of following wherever the song would lead.

This link is REAL music:




http://klaq.com/cricket-choir-slowed-down-crickets-sound-like-singers-video/





I think it is crickets manipulated by a sound engineer.
which is no different than lady gaga on auto tune

Re: CREATIVE MUSIC COMPOSITION

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:02 pm
by PaperDog
FLYING CLOUD NINE wrote:Name: FLYING CLOUD NINE

Latest music composition can be heard by googling the following [url]:

http://soundcloud.com/vr_hallock/sympho ... ogue-cloud

Please listen, and leave a comment

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Cloud,

Nice job...
I would not say this is anything new.... It has elements of Schoenberg's approach to atonality (Which deviates after the first 8-12 measures, and renders moot)) . I also get a sense of early American Urban pastoral (Pre american Jazz)

Its nice work...

I am (what ETU might classify as regurgitative ;) ) in my own musical world. In my effort to master the craft of simple song-writing, I tend to require that my phrase and lyric take some form of direction...

That being said, I have to applaud your piece in the sense that it really captures a living state of ambient textures, gestures and movements (as opposed to a dead and static state...) without the burden of a beginning or end., thus no direction is necessary...

Awsome job, Cloud!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:12 pm
by Etu Malku
JCP61 wrote:
Etu Malku wrote:Be it known there has been a lot of research and development in artificially intelligent music making (no that FC9 is that), and during my research for my book I have encountered a few of these composers, it is indeed a fascinating venture outside of the conventional crappola that I hear, the redundant regurgitation of things already created.

Music and Culture both wax and wane.


this doesn't really make sense
how can you have a composer in artificial intelligence music composition?
don't you mean you found some attractive computer generated music?
not really a stretch when you consider that resolved composition is not really higher math.
LOL . . . it's been going on for some time, yeah, I know it's not very public but most underground things aren't, I just happen to be in touch with quite a few Musicologists (remember I am writing a book).