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On folk music last night. Hosted by
John Sebastian, it was really good.
I started out in music listening to my
Mom's records back in the early 60s.
Those folk groups were really good.
Folk music is a dead art form now, isn't it.
I know my old lady didn't care for
the folk music show, but I love all that
old American folk music.

You know the Kingston Trio, TheLimelighters,
Pete Seeger, Judy Collins, Peter, Paul, and Mary,
and many more.

Where have all the folk singers gone,
long time passing.

They were libs but Very good musicians and song writers!

Yeah, Puff My Magic Dragon, the times they are a-changin'. Damned libs with their folk music trying to stop wars and such.

Lynard, you said, " . . . Folk music is a dead art form now, isn't it. . . . "
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Hell - not around here, in Southern, CT!
It's being performed all over here, from the Buttonwood tree in Middletown, to old Orchard Farm in East Lyme, to The Ivory restaurant in Deep River, to The Highliner in Westbrook, to Oliver's Tavern in Higganum, to Perk on Main in Durham, to J. Martin's Pub in Higganum, to The Pattaconk in Chester, to the Pine Loft in Berlin . . .

jimmydanger wrote:Yeah, Puff My Magic Dragon, the times they are a-changin'. Damned libs with their folk music trying to stop wars and such.

Jimmy just ask a Vietnam vet what he thinks about those folks that were trying to stop the wars! They called them baby killers they got no welcome when they came home, Hanoi Jane Fonda. I bet you liked her Huh! I still like the music and you too Jimmy! I wouldn't wipe my @ss with Jane Fonda!

Good to hear Rhythm Man, I love
folk music. You just don't hear it much
at the venues I frequent. It is great
music.

I don't know if it was libs or conserves,
it was good music. I always thought of my
parents as conservative, but they listened
to folk music at there parties. There records
were my 1st taste of music. It be cool if there
were some musicians out there now performing
music with the direct intent of stopping war. Probably
is I just don't hear much new music, besides what
my boy's band plays and listens to.

Your post sounds like a folk song Rhythm Man,
maybe some Woody Guthrie, " From the redwood
forests to the .... This Land was made for you and
me.

You know on the old film clips they showed every
group had a 12 string guitar, and there were males
and females in dam near every group.

Lynard Dylan wrote:On folk music last night. Hosted by
John Sebastian, it was really good.
I started out in music listening to my
Mom's records back in the early 60s.
Those folk groups were really good.
Folk music is a dead art form now, isn't it.
I know my old lady didn't care for
the folk music show, but I love all that
old American folk music.

You know the Kingston Trio, TheLimelighters,
Pete Seeger, Judy Collins, Peter, Paul, and Mary,
and many more.

Where have all the folk singers gone,
long time passing.

I consider myself a folk singer/songwriter... Mostly because I suck at everything else...
I have to say, that some of the American folk got pasteurized and homogenized right after the Woody Guthrie days. Bob Dylan was sort of its savior....but, to me, guys like Peter Paul and Mary..material just seemed like a flower-child lounge act... I know that's a terrible thing to say.. but I was never really moved by their stuff... (One exception ... as i kid i loved Puff the magic Dragon)

Arlo Guthrie inspired a lot of hippies to re-examine good old fashioned 'folk-tale... ' I mean,' Alices Restauraunt' was great in its day...

I think, the old American folk attempted to capture a wholesome panorama (a pastoral based) essence in the music, and accompanyied the music with pseudo-poetry. To be fair, not everybody and their mothers played guitar back then, so their exposure to expertise was a lot less than what musicians have available today. In that respect, they really had to write their own book on song-writing. So yeah, I give the American Folk musicians a lot of credit...

just my thoughts

I've been paying a lot of attention to European folk rythyms - lot of creative bands stay connected with that. Plus Ray Vaughn Williams' Folksong Suite comes at it from a classical perspective.

American folk music, like country, took much from that scotch / irish / celtic thing.

i wasn't too keen on bands like Kingston Trio. There were exceptions aplenty though like 'Tom Dooley.' Idolized Dylan. Still a huge fan. Liked PP&M as well. Ah - the sixties. A dandy time. I think...


Arguably, real folk music often hides in places like country music and bluegrass, blues and jazz.

The sixtie's hootenany folk music seems to be gone. Probably because the audiance moved on. We were pretty good clean cut kids and folk music was a logical style for us. We weren't lames or squares by any means. But the times they were a changin'.

Talbot

PaperDog wrote:I consider myself a folk singer/songwriter... Mostly because I suck at everything else...

just my thoughts

Bull****, you have a great voice. You can do Folk, Blues, you could do some Hard Rock songs like, "Somebody to Shove," by Soul Asylum, just without the whispery-thing in the verses, and probably a plethora of other stuff I could think of if I really put my mind to it.

By the way, are you familiar with, "Somebody to Shove," I'm having trouble imagining you singing the verses (though I'm sure they'd be pretty good), but you would destroy that chorus!

PierceG wrote:

PaperDog wrote:I consider myself a folk singer/songwriter... Mostly because I suck at everything else...

just my thoughts

Bull****, you have a great voice. You can do Folk, Blues, you could do some Hard Rock songs like, "Somebody to Shove," by Soul Asylum, just without the whispery-thing in the verses, and probably a plethora of other stuff I could think of if I really put my mind to it.

By the way, are you familiar with, "Somebody to Shove," I'm having trouble imagining you singing the verses (though I'm sure they'd be pretty good), but you would destroy that chorus!

Thanks Pierce, Nice of you to say it...
If I set my mind to it I could probably handle the "Somebody to shove"... (Picture more of an ennunciated approach to the verses.)

I'm not so sure I would call that song hard rock though... Based on what I grew up with it doesn't seem to have some of the teeth that I'm used to hearing... But its signature to Soul Asylum style and i respect that..

Your lucky if you suck at everything else
Paperdog and are a good folk singer/songwriter.
Your a good guitar player and singer, and you
most definitely have a way with words.

Now a flower child lounge act is something
I've always desired to do, you know, different
than the usual rock or country lounge acts.
I think it would be groovy.

Lynard, it seems obvious to me that you are a comedy act and should augment that with your music.

How many people watch TV all night long just waiting for a laugh (and don't get it)?

it wouldn't take a lot for you to be very entertaining to watch, I'm sure...

Thanks Mr Yod, but since I got back into
playing music, about 3 1/2 years ago, I've
lost all my people skills. Next year I'm going
to try to make a quality CD, and get back
into Branson, where comedy and music
are involved in about all the acts. My drinking
and drug days of the past still follow me down
there, but I've definitely got better there on that
front.

For real though I would love to play in a group
like the Mamas and Papas.

Lynard Dylan wrote:Your lucky if you suck at everything else
Paperdog and are a good folk singer/songwriter.
Your a good guitar player and singer, and you
most definitely have a way with words.

Now a flower child lounge act is something
I've always desired to do, you know, different
than the usual rock or country lounge acts.
I think it would be groovy.

Aw shucks ...now I'm blushing man... But what you said is outta sight man ...and really far out

To their credit, Peter , Paul and Mary did do something very interesting in their genre... When Dylan was getting esoteric with his work, (And making certain audiences very nervous) PPM was keeping it light enough that they drew in more audience of different walks...

I forgot to mention Mamas and The Papas... I always loved "California Dreaming" Gives me some solid memories of my child hood in the 60's

Mamas and The Papas, their harmony was just amazing. California Dreaming, Monday Monday Dancing in the Streets. My Father was heavily into country, although I don’t particularly like the style of Hank Williams his favorite, I do remember the Everly Brothers, they had great harmony. Crosby Stills n Nash (Our House) and Simon and Garfunkel (The Boxer) would probably belong along those lines as well. Cool thread, it brings back a lot of childhood memories.