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New Pedals

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:36 pm
by jw123
Friday night my Whammy pedal went down, so I found another one on ebay and ordered, I guess since its almost christmas I decided to buy myself another one.

Ive been really getting into the first Van Halen record again, so I also ordered that EVH Phase 90 pedal, so maybe I can get that sound he had all over that album.

Now I just cant wait for it to get here.

Anyone have any experiece with the EVH Phase pedal, I have an old Ross Phase Distortion pedal, but havent ever had any other phase pedal, I plan on taking the chorus pedal I have on my board off and putting the phase pedal in its place, because in researching the Whammy Pedal I had totally forgotten that it has some great chorus settings itself.

Anyway, cant wait to get them in and get them figured out before the next gig.

Everyone have a great day!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:48 pm
by J-HALEY
Jw, I bought a phase 90 off of craigslist for 50 bucks put it on my board I didn't like the sound. I had read about a mod that I could do to make it sound more vintage. I did the mod put it on my board and still I couldn't get it to sound the way I wanted. I bought it for "Eruption". I have been doing some research on youtube and discovered what I was doing wrong (though I haven't tried it yet) While researching settings I ran across a tutorial and the guy said "if you want your phase 90 to sound like Eddie's it has to be in front of all your other pedal" 8)

I just bought one of those 78 badass distortion pedals and it sounds great!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:30 pm
by jw123
Haley I read that Eddie used one of the first batch of Phase 90 pedals, Im hoping that he wasnt drunk when he oked the signature version, hopefully it will get that sound. The article I read said that most people got the wrong Phase 90 for that sound. I seem to recall a buddy had one and it didnt sound that great to me.

The way my board is set up it wouldnt be first in the line, but when I use it it would be the first effect engaged, so Im hopeful.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:57 pm
by gbheil
I hope it works out for you John and love to hear some samples when you get her up and running.

I try to stay away from " signature " stuff.
Being the my beer is half empty kind of guy I am I figure it's a a sales pitch ... nothing more.

But hell, Ive been wrong before. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:10 pm
by jw123
I have in the past also George, but man I havent listened to VH I in years and Im just loving the way this pedal sounds.

We play Running With The Devil, Aint Talkin Bout Love, You Really Got Me, and the last gig we worked up Feel Your Love Tonight. Im gonna work up Atomic Punk, Im The One and also the sleeper tune on the album Little Dreamer. Who knows we might just do the whole album, the only song I never cared for was Jamies Cryin, but maybe that was because of MC Hammer ripping off the riff. I got so tired of hearing that song when I used to hang out in disco's.

Thats really a classic guitar album. Im falling in love with it all over again. I was never one of those guys who copped Eddies tone that much or style, so Im kinda stepping out a bit for me, I have been throwing in a lot of tapping and stuff that is kinda in his territory.

Another neat thing about that album is the rythym structures behind the leads, Anthony is a very underated bassist, but on this album he is in the groove, plus his backing vocals are to die for in my opinion.

Im not that concerned with just using it for Van Halen stuff, I like to punch this or that in on other things, just to change up the tone some. When you play in a 3 piece and you do 4 hour gigs, it just sonically makes sense to me, to have a few options on my pedal board.

It sounds like I run effects all the time, but actually I just use them sparingly, 80% of the time I just run straight guitar, with my amp on the classic recto tone, dialed in to emulate a JCM 800 Marshall. That is the best way for me to describe the tone I go for.

Our bassist plays in another band and they got up and did Manic Depression the other night and an original they do, man it sounded great listening the pa and my guitar sitting in the audience. Josh thier guitarist did an awesome job, and made my rig and guitar sound good.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:30 pm
by gbheil
It is a great classic rock album John.

That's a natural fact.

I remember ( barely ) seeing those guys on what was I believe their first national tour.
Was my wife and my first date.

I stopped at a roadside rest so she could go to the ladies room and as I waited I made up four huge lines of coke.

When she got back in the car I did mine and offered it to her.
she just said " no, I don't do that ".
Needless to say it did not go to waste ...
What a concert that was. :lol:

She slept all the way home ... I don't think I slept till Monday 8)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:48 pm
by Lynard Dylan
The sleeper tune? Wouldn't
that be Jamie's Cryin.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:28 pm
by jw123
Lynard when I call a song a sleeper tune Im talkin about the song on an album that in my mind should have been some sort of hit.

Jamies Cryin was all over the radio, Little Dreamer wasnt, and Feel your Love Tonight was kind of a sleeper, great hook, great back up vocals, short tight song.

I know this is a stretch but outside of the rockin side, Van Halen owed a lot to the girl groups of the 60s, what I mean is short tight songs with great back up vocals.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:33 pm
by jw123
Cool Fed Ex just delivered my new pedal, cant wait to get off of work and Halen out tonight! LOL

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:49 pm
by J-HALEY
Cool Jw, if it doesn't have the sound you want remember what I said? Do you have your tuner first? They say that eddie had his phase 90 first in his pedal lineup.
I am going to try it tonight. I will install it after my tuner.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:27 pm
by jw123
I plugged it in my board where my chorus pedal was and it sounds pretty good, I only had a few minutes, but I kinda like it. Later I may just try it by itself and see if I can tell a difference. I dont understand why it would matter where it is, if the other effects arent engaged. My TS is in front of it in the chain and when I kicked it in, it seems to make the effect stronger. Ive always gone tuner, wah, distortion, then Im going into the Phaser, with my whammy next, and then the delay pedal.

When you play Aint Talkin Bout Love it gives it that wah-wah sound when you play the descending C-B.

Crazy I ordered another whammy pedal and when I hooked it up, my whammy started working again, duh, Im wondering if maybe the voltage at this club wouldnt carry it or something, Ive never had problems with it anywhere, and Ive had it for about 12 years. If nothing else I will have a spare whammy pedal, which is good cause they dont make the one I like anymore.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:46 pm
by crunchysoundbite
I can't resist this opportunity to let the cat out of the bag. My new job is working for FedEx. I've been a trash truck driver,and people weren't so happy to see you, even when you picked up hundreds of pounds of their waste. I've delivered a guy's new custom PRS he was waiting for. You can imagine how grateful he was to see me. I stuck around long enough to see him lay hands on it for the first time. This job has it's rewards. I can ask you to be thankful for those that still take our crap, and imagine what some people expect a trash man to do because of the nature of his job. Christmas is a good time to tip your trash man, because the job can many times be hardly worth it. If you tip him even though your thoughtful about the way you put your trash out, you are thanking him for his services rendered to you, despite what others put on him/her.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:53 pm
by PaperDog
crunchysoundbite wrote:I can't resist this opportunity to let the cat out of the bag. My new job is working for FedEx. I've been a trash truck driver,and people weren't so happy to see you, even when you picked up hundreds of pounds of their waste. I've delivered a guy's new custom PRS he was waiting for. You can imagine how grateful he was to see me. I stuck around long enough to see him lay hands on it for the first time. This job has it's rewards. I can ask you to be thankful for those that still take our crap, and imagine what some people expect a trash man to do because of the nature of his job. Christmas is a good time to tip your trash man, because the job can many times be hardly worth it. If you tip him even though your thoughtful about the way you put your trash out, you are thanking him for his services rendered to you, despite what others put on him/her.


Whhuuut?... I guess it depends in what town and how the services are provided... The "Sanitation engineers" in my town are paid somewhere between 35-50K a year. The only work they appear to do is to to roll up to the curb, press the button that launches a hydraulic arm to pick up the city-sponsored trash can (That I paid for and have to physically roll out to the curb) If the can is not properly placed on the curb, on the right day of the week...I 'can" get penalized and "fined"
Now, about that tip...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:08 pm
by jw123
I live in the country and haul my own trash or burn it.

Actually helped to stop a little deal in our county to charge all of us for trash pickup. Thats the kind of politics I get involved in, I couldnt see me and my neighbors paying for something that we werent going to even use.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:57 pm
by crunchysoundbite
I live in the country. I have a trash service pick up my trash, as apposed to burning it and imposing the smoke on my neighbors like they do to us. In Columbus, they have those auto arms. It may be the most cost effective way to get everyone to comply. Sorry about their luck. People in the city can't go out back at midnight and shoot guns like the fourth of July or play multiple amps hooked up to guitars, with drums and drunken singers screaming till they cough up a lung, while a bon-fire is burning a hole in the clouds, and two grills are cooking shrimp ,chicken, pork ribs with beer on ice. Sucks to be them. Those drivers of those auto arm trucks also don't have to adhere to the same laws as any other commercial driver. We play horseshoes in as much space as we need without worrying an inexperienced guest will throw a shoe in the neighbor's yard with Hell's Bells turned down as not to piss off the neighbors. I was treated at the hospital for my shingles. I took a pill with Chillicothe city water. I had that taste in my mouth for another two hours. sucks to be them that doesn't know the clean taste of unadulterated spring water. To each his own. Try living in the city and taking your four by four and do donuts in your yard for two hours until you can't see out your windows through the mud. The trade off is I have Dial up internet. Sucks to be me? I think not.