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My friend sent this to me and I like it:

START THE 28TH AMENDMENT

"If you want something in your life you've never had before, be prepared to do something you've never done before."

Whether you agree fully or partially, or not at all,...please consider forwarding this on so that concerned voters can see this and decide for themselves to act, to forward or not. Please read & thanks very much !

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. Term Limits. 12 years only, one of the possible options below..

A. Two Six-year Senate terms
B. Six Two-year House terms
C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms

2. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%

6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 10-1-11

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

Oh BTW it's on snopes as false, but still I like the part about them voting themselves pay raises which they do.

Here's what snopes had to say: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/ ... ndment.asp

Chaeya

That's wonderful Chaeya, but do you think any of the crazies we have running our country would ever allow this?

You and Cisco have a much better chance of becoming rock stars.

Hey you want some help with mastering? I bet if we got input from everyone here we could give you guys a better master, than any amount of money could pay for.

GlenJ wrote:
You and Cisco have a much better chance of becoming rock stars.

Gee Glen, I know you probably didn't mean it but OUCH.
That read like a sh*t sandwich, hold the bread.

Fuuuk you engineer, when are you put some new tunes up? You know I like what got there but you never freakin shared any thing else.
Come on man!

I like it.
Except term limits ... hang the bad ones, keep the good ones.

Every member of congress whom voted for a reduction in projected expenditure increases and had the audacity to call it a budget cut should be dragged into the streets and shot.

Chaeya wrote:THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

I reads good, but I'm not convinced that we actually need congress persons anymore. Their usefulness and presence are sort of out-dated . I think a good, reliable clerk is all we need nowadays.
Today, We can write software to assemble bills and formalize the language. That software can generate polls, Talley up votes, communicate information directly between the people and said clerk... One good rubber stamp for majority vote on anything... asnd presto, the country is run responsibly at very small cost. So tell me again...why do we need congress persons?

I don't like any of it. I have my own idea to COMPLETELY revolutionize the political structure of our entire government, state and federal. My ideal form of government would have each state run nearly as independent countries all held together by a federal government whose sole purpose is to protect us militarily, maintain the national highway system and offer various programs that individuals can participate in VOLUNTARILY. ALL matters of entitlements are on a STATE by STATE basis. All matters of law (penal system, abortion, capital punishment, HEALTH INSURANCE, Social Security, etc.) Are on a State by State basis. ALL matters of education are State issues. ALL matters of energy production are on a state by state basis. The present system of government is a GIANT mass of bureaucratic black hole of red tape, legalese, a GIANT sucking sound of our precious dollars disappearing into thin air. Both major parties IMO have become OBSOLETE. Neither one can rule effectively as decisions are ALWAYS made with political results being the primary reason, making the other party look bad.. This is an INSANE way to produce legislation. When there hasn't been another political party occupying ANY major office for well over 100 years something is SERIOUSLY wrong here. To me producing an ammendment like the one being produced here is a MOOT point. It doesn't go anywhere far enough to materially change the ENTIRE way we do business.

DEAR CONGRESS, Last year I mismanaged my funds and this year my family and I cannot decide on a budget. Until we have come to a unified decision that fits all of our needs and interests, we will have to shut down our checkbook and will no longer be paying our taxes. I'm sure you'll understand. Thank you very much for setting an example we can all follow.

I like this concept of Chaeya's...it'll never float but I'd like to think it could.

Sign me up.

If only it were that easy, as for me and Cisco becoming rock stars, I seriously think we'd have an easier time becoming politicians - ewwww. I think the state of professional music is just as f**k as our government. If you want to think in terms of bailout, Music X-ray and Sonicbids and websites like them are simply that - supporting people who wish to get rich off people's dreams. But that's another argument.

But Bob, I like your idea too. Sort of like how Europe is, you have separate countries with separate laws. Honestly, we are too big and we are a mess of red tape, bureaucratic bullshit and loopholes.

I told Cisco last night, if it weren't for greed and money getting in the way, we would be light years ahead of where we are now. We'd probably be terra farming on another planet. We'd have a cure for cancer and we wouldn't be using fossil fuels any longer.

Chaeya

Bob you are brilliant! At last some one figured out the wisdom laid out by our founding fathers. They were very fearful of one central government that could dictate. Yet they recognized the need for one strong central power to protect those very same states. I said protect, NOT DICTATE.
The rights of the individual states have been so stepped on, and thus the people of those states.

The plan you mention was established 225 years ago and to this day stands as the only plausible plan for men to be responsible for their own destiny.

Well,, Any one that thinks they can determine my own self destiny better than myself,,,,

GO Fun yourself, and duck!

We have a lot of traitors running around this country, and it amazes me that many of them have never heard of the constitution, or choose to just ignore it.

I like Chaeya's ideas but Bob is probably right. If the disgusting scoundrels in DC could be restrained by a constitution we'd know it by now. We are ruled by usurpers and outlaws.

There should be no such thing as a political career. It's about duty. Prove yourself in the real world - than contribute some time for some much less extravagent bennies and then go back to work.

Any skunk who believes they can steal my money at gunpoint to give to somebody else - should be serving hard time.

I'm hoping for a second party but I fear its too late.

Talbot

MikeTalbot wrote:I like Chaeya's ideas but Bob is probably right. If the disgusting scoundrels in DC could be restrained by a constitution we'd know it by now. We are ruled by usurpers and outlaws.

There should be no such thing as a political career. It's about duty. Prove yourself in the real world - than contribute some time for some much less extravagent bennies and then go back to work.

Any skunk who believes they can steal my money at gunpoint to give to somebody else - should be serving hard time.

I'm hoping for a second party but I fear its too late.

Talbot

Again, can anybody really come up with a convincing argument as to why we need representatives to implement legislation? Why do we need some Nancy-boy in a fashion-suit and tie telling us how we should live, and then charge us money for telling us that? Seriously, a 28th Ammendment? (No Offense Chaeya, your idea itself aint a bad one...but I'm looking to get rid of congress. Your idea just keeps em around under different terms) Bob your idea is well spirited but like Chaeya's... All these ideas of how to run a government... too complicated!

Year 1
1) 50 states / 50 reps.
2) Represent for 1 year (contract)
3) Post good ideas all year long on a forum like this one.
4) Readers Vote
5) Laws passed accordingly.

Year 2

1) Kick out last years reps,
2) Hold a lottery/applicants drawing'
3) Select 50 new applicants at random
4) repeat the legislative process for a year

Note, if year 1 ideas suck, year 2 ideas will no doubt replace year 1 ideas, including motions to remove ideas that suck.

No dog. Let the brilliance of our constitution stand as it was intended.

Let us all stop it from being changed to the point that tyranny usurps the powers given to the individual under the very premise of our great nation.

Need I say more.