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Maddow: Michigan governor thinks democracy is a 'problem'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:58 pm
by Mike Nobody
The decision-making authority of elected officials in Benton Harbor, Michigan was suspended under a new emergency manager law passed by Republican Gov. Rick Snyder.

In a speech Wednesday, Snyder said he also wanted to abolish the minimum number of hours children are required to be in school. He announced that he was targeting 23 school districts for takeover by state-appointed unilateral executives.

"Every single one of those places has just been told that them having locally elected officials, that's a problem," MSNBC Rachel Maddow explained Thursday. "That democracy is in the way of making things more efficient in Michigan, that Democracy is not the way we fix problems in America, that it is a problem."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:08 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Exactly Mike. This is government out of control at all levels, Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, and Liberals.

This just shows that all sides of this equation don't understand the words PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

The next step, some one will step in and tell you what to do with your life.

Very good Mike, at least you caught half the story. Now extrapolate the true consequences with some thinking. :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:11 pm
by Mike Nobody
Aren't you supposed to have me on ignore or something? Just go away.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:15 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Why? So you can keep preaching trash! :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:24 pm
by Mike Nobody
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:35 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
I guess you expect me to let you rule the country.
You are amusing, but it seems you are running out of ammo.
I'm not, so just put me on your ignore list. PPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSEEE!

Glen.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:50 pm
by RGMixProject
GlenJ wrote:I guess you expect me to let you rule the country.
You are amusing, but it seems you are running out of ammo.
I'm not, so just put me on your ignore list. PPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSEEE!

Glen.


Glen, does the word leech ring a bell. :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:52 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Ding Ding Ding Ding :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:58 pm
by Mike Nobody
Hey Glen, your butt-buddy's here now!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:38 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
I didn't know they allowed computers in jail, Mike. Just don't drop the soap because someone with your talent will be making all kinds of friends. I've heard its just a socialistic sort of thing.[thought extrapolation needed here to get the extended joke, no pun intended].

Good one Mike. :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:24 pm
by fisherman bob
First of all Michigan is a mess precisely because democracy has been ignored by BOTH major parties. Think of the stupidity of both the governor's remark and Maddow's commentary. Shouldn't it be up to EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DECIDE HOW MANY HOURS STUDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND? Shouldn't it be up to individual states to decide if MARIJUANA IS LEGAL IN THAT STATE BY A VOTE OF ITS OWN CITIZENS? Shouldn't it be up to each state whether ABORTION IS FUNDED BY STATE TAXES OR NOT AS VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE OF THAT STATE? I believe in referendums in each state to decide issues. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A GOVERNOR OR ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS THE RIGHT TO DICTATE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WANT. A true democracy is the rule of the majority, not the rule of an individual, whether they be Republican or Democrat. It continually amazes me when a Republican makes a ruling the Liberals are aghast and when a Democrat makes a ruling the conservatives are aghast. In my opinion in a true democracy THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON ISSUES. The people should have the right to vote on proposed pending legislation. So many federal programs should be eliminated and each state should have or NOT have those programs as VOTED ON BY A REFERENDUM OF THE PEOPLE. THAT is what a true democracy should be about. I'm tired of idealogues ruling by dictatorial power. I'm tired of major issues being decided by a vote of a few people (Supreme Court judges for example). I understand Mike and Glen's frustration. Both are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. But BOTH are WRONG IMO in that they want problems solved by decree. I want problems solved by the majority rule OF THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE. Anything less isn't democracy.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:47 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
That's NOT what I said Bob. I think I said what you said in a few less words.
I don't care what party or religion or if your skin is green with pink dots. Everyone has to take personal responsibility seriously or the door is opened for someone else to do it for you.

I was actually patting Mike on the back for picking up on this abuse of power. I think we are all on the same page when it comes abusive government.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:59 pm
by drag57
the bandmix forums are turning into the bloody 6 o`clock news.talk about fender,gibson,marshall,and pearl.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:51 pm
by Starfish Scott
They can't.

This is why people leave, no one wants to read what makes your political senses aflame these days.

In short .. no one cares..and we don't want to read about it either.

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 1:13 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
5KVJOHN wrote:the bandmix forums are turning into the bloody 6 o`clock news.talk about fender,gibson,marshall,and pearl.


NO THEY ARE NOT. If you think you can just play music and everything is right with the world. Without a stable government there are no "ARTS"

Right now the arts are getting "KILLED" just like the average JOE.
You joined a few years back and suddenly you decide to become vocal about what should be posted here. You followed me around pretty good. You should be ashamed of thinking that after 50 posts you can come in here and tell me I'm all wrong. One of the most amazing thing about Band Mix are the sane people that raise EXTREMELY interesting POLITICAL points. One of the most BORING things about Band Mix are the people that bring no innovative MUSIC and then think we should KISS THEIR ASSES. You have not shown me anything new, and I politely responded. You could give a RATSASS about my my opinion. So shall I do likewise. To be continued in your next rant without merit. SEE THE IGNORE BUTTON,,, CLICK IT, CLICK IT NOW!!!!!!!

You want something musical Tell me why TUNERS DON'T WORK , I can't believe it, but just every one up here counts on a tuner like it is God.
However mathematically, in geometry it is not possible to trisect a triangle.

You want music than you should be able to explain this natural phenomenon. Go on,,, Its a brave new world when you have to depend on your senses,,, for a MUSICIAN that would be their "EARS"! :roll: