Zero-tolerance - ya gotta love it

Posted:
Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:07 pm
by philbymon
This also happened to a young boy around the same age at our local elementary school, about 6 years ago. HE got an out-of-school suspension for a week, for doing it twice, according to what his mothher told me.
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/01/21/ ... 295600400/

Posted:
Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:16 pm
by TheCaptain
Oh yeah?
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/01/21/second-graders-may-have-had-oral-sex-in-classroom/
Reason#334 why we homeschool.
We control the school: and who is in it.
ooooh I can hear the comments already...
"yeah but...
yeah but...
yeah but...."

Posted:
Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:28 pm
by philbymon
Whoa!
Pretty extreme accusation! I hope it isn't true...

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:02 am
by Stringdancer
Second Graders May Have Had Oral Sex In Classroom
Too many news outlet looking for the sensational, reports of “may have” are sold as facts, it would be desirable and more useful if reports are presented without the “may have” but that would require some investigating journalism.
Print first ask question later has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:13 am
by Hayden King
Nav4c wrote:[that would require some investigating journalism.
oh we don't have that anymore... we call it conspiracy theory now... that way facts becomes theory and therefore never have any weight as evidence.

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:14 am
by philbymon
Yep - & if it isn't true, they'll just ignore the real facts for the next sensational story...there will be no retractions...& if it IS true, well, it'll prolly turn into a political shitstorm...

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:33 am
by TheCaptain
it's so sad that now like, every 7 & 8 year old in that county will ask/know/learn about things they shouldn't for many years...


Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:27 am
by Krul
Kids have been doing weird stuff in class like this forever. Nobody got into a media frenzy when I was in elementary school.

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:03 am
by Mike Nobody
Kruliosis wrote:Kids have been doing weird stuff in class like this forever. Nobody got into a media frenzy when I was in elementary school.
All of us were "little bastards" like the kids on
South Park, when I was a kid.
Nothing really surprises me about anything people are capable of, especially children.

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:08 pm
by Sir Jamsalot
The article says at the bottom that the problem wasn't so much he was shooting people with his finger, but that he wouldn't stop when told not to. Parents were called in to deal with a kid that wouldn't do what he was told.
Why it's a news article? .... someone is trying to make an issue about what he was doing (pointing a finger and shooting people), when the real problem is just another rebellious kid. It's a drummed up story if you ask me - someone politiking

Posted:
Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:29 pm
by aiki_mcr
Right. So the first behavior. Well. The behavior itself isn't, at first blush, all that serious. But the impulse control issues involved may well be. Disruptive behaviors in classrooms are disruptive whether they are threatening or not. My guess it wasn't threatening, in this case, but it was nonetheless disrupting. At some point disruptive behavior must be dealt with.
Newsworthy. No. Not even a little bit. Mom's reaction is what caused the newspaper article. Maybe she's overreacting. But I know we took my son out of public schools when we learned that some of his behavior problems were rooted in borderline abuse on the part of school administrators. Toward pretty much every boy in grades 4-6. Girls, not so much.
Interesting...but I'm not convinced it applies in the case of this news story.
The second: somebody taught those kids that it was a thing to do, intentionally or not. That somebody needs to be confronted about it and the children brought in line. The person who "taught" them this may be unaware of it (we've all tried to spy on our parents at times we know they believe are inappropriate, sometimes we even succeeded), but they may also be guilty of nothing short of child abuse. It is important to find out. Moreover, the kids involved need to be separated. Kids certainly experiment in inappropriate ways at that age, but it has its limits. The teacher may or may not be culpable.
Newsworthy? Maybe. Probably not.
The Moral Majority is neither, but they certainly hold sway over our media.

Posted:
Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:31 pm
by dave7x7