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Speaking of lotsa talent but no $ for it..

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:44 pm
by TheCaptain
I was thinking about all these posts by folks wanting an income in return for their art.
And it brought to mind my ol Navy buddy who, as you can see if you like, is simply loaded with God given talent(in buckets actually) yet he remains largely unnoticed in the world.
I guess the difference with him is, this is indeed a "hobby" if you can call it that, as he is a computer guy & earns his living that way, albeit a small one and doesn't really try to earn much through the art.

I'd love for him to get all famous though someday...(though it better come soon as he's not a spring chicken..)

:)
peace,
R

ps. pay particular attention to the drawing section: he works largely with pencil...amazing I think

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:51 pm
by gbheil
It's all about perspective.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:34 pm
by Slacker G
I traded love for money and lost my love. I quit picking for more than a few decades because my love of playing turned into a job that caused me to lose complete interest in my music. There were very enjoyable gigs from time to time, but most were just gigs.
Now that I am picking again I know enough not to go there again. But playing for the enjoyment of others is still a very satisfying and enjoyable endeavor for me. Guess it is all what you make of it. :)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:39 pm
by RhythmMan
sanshouheil wrote:It's all about perspective.

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Yeah, maybe a lot of time, but not necessarily in this case.
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This is more about goals.
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Our goals are usually what motivate us to action. From putting gas in your tank to paying your bills on time - everything seems goal-related.
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Once we attain a goal - we can sit back and enjoy it, or set our sights on additional goals.
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And, seeing as music - in and of itself - is VERY enjoyable, it's not surprising than many of us just want to enjoy it.
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To attain any goal takes some degree of effort and time. But before expending effort towards any goal, something happens first:
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We decide (either consciously or subconsciously) if a particular goal is worth the work involved.
. . . everything from scratching your butt, - to playing on stage . . .
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It seems that - often - many of the important decisions in our lives are decided subconsciously.
People spend more time planning their vacations than then spend planning their lives.
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It is often true that most people can succeed at most things.
But having the talent is only one prerequisite for goal-attainment, or success (same thing).
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The other prerequisite for success is DESIRE.
Every success you earn in life starts with a desire.
Excluding chance encounters - and assuming your specific goal is possible in the first place - every success, big or small, starts with a desire.
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We won't put salt on a hamburger if we don't desire it, and we won't ever record an album or play in front of large crowds if we don't desire that, either.
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Your priorities in life are things which YOU feel are the most important at any given minute, hour, day, year, decade . . .
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The amount we desire any given thing can determine the outcomes of our lives, eh?
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More to the point, though: what we DO in our spare time will change our lives.
What you do in your spare time could easily determine - in your own eyes - your success or failure in life.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:01 pm
by Chaeya
Co-sign, RhythmMan, we have so much power in our lives that we don't use. It's true there are some things that we just can't do anything about such as paying out a lot of money for living expenses; however, when we DECIDE what is as much of a priority for us, we manage to do it. I've been struggling to pay bills for years, but I never stopped doing my music. With the desire and the decision, came my need to hustle and make extra money, even holding down a second job for a long time. Then the Universe would kick in and help me out by offering us a gig or a high paying client.

I haven't always been a strong person and there have been times I've fallen down and felt sorry for myself, got depressed, questioned why I was really doing this. But I got my mojo back and I'm just gonne keep doing, writing songs, playing, singing when I can. It makes me feel whole and it makes me feel complete.

You have food for your belly then there's food your soul has to have. You don't feed your soul, you die a spiritual death which can be just as serious as physical death.

Chaeya

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:06 pm
by Black57
We hafta realize that if we want to have some degree of recoginition/profit from our talents our art, it is no different from any other career. It is a business and there has to be a business perspective no matter how talented we are...or are not. Something as simple as a business card or word of mouth can help anyone to profit from their talent.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:28 am
by RhythmMan
Chaeya, Black - gotta agree with both of you.
I can see that - for both of you - it's worth a little extra time and effort.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:14 pm
by Barry Wilson
"Success isn't measured by what we have achieved, but by the obstacles we have overcome to achieve it"

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:14 pm
by RhythmMan
"Success isn't measured by what we have achieved, but by the obstacles we have overcome to achieve it"
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Well - that sounds pretty and all . . .
But success is measured by - "did I GET what I tried to get," - plain and simple.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:35 pm
by RGMixProject
RhythmMan wrote:"Success isn't measured by what we have achieved, but by the obstacles we have overcome to achieve it"
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Well - that sounds pretty and all . . .
But success is measured by - "did I GET what I tried to get," - plain and simple.


People often refer to success as a journey and not a destination.

Financially I am very successful however, I have failed to keep my hair :oops: :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:51 pm
by gbheil
RGMixProject wrote:
RhythmMan wrote:"Success isn't measured by what we have achieved, but by the obstacles we have overcome to achieve it"
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Well - that sounds pretty and all . . .
But success is measured by - "did I GET what I tried to get," - plain and simple.


People often refer to success as a journey and not a destination.

Financially I am very successful however, I have failed to keep my hair :oops: :shock: :lol:


I still have mine ... It's just moved south. :cry:

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 am
by Mike Nobody

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:16 am
by gbheil
Funny you posted that Mike. :lol:

Used to listen to that thing all the time when it first came out.

My motto used to be

Oh say can you see ... mine eyes if you can ... then my hairs too short. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:30 pm
by RhythmMan
I agree that success is a journey and not a destination.
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Once we reach success - we get wanderlust.
We set another goal - that's better than resting on our laurels . . .
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Theres lots of areas to set goals in , and to succeed in.
> financial and career
> mental and educational
> spiritual and ethical
> Physical and health
> social and cultural
> family and home
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There's more to life than money, eh?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:21 am
by Krul
There is no price on making a mark that sticks. That's something that no one can take away. That's really what makes life worth living, isn't it?