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Success can be expensive. Can you afford it?

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:54 pm
by RhythmMan
Reverbnation just sent me an invite to apply for one of the 150 slots for the Hollywood Music Awards.
But - you know what - if I GET one of those slots - I can't afford to fly out to Hollywood to perform!
Anyone else run into this kind of thing, where they can't afford success?

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:05 pm
by Chaeya
Yeah, and Reverbnation and other sites like it are beginning to piss me off with that. They want like $30 per submission and I'm thinking, these guys are making bank. I get these submission requests almost daily from them, and when you think about it. the music awards show couldn't be relying solely on Reverbnation to fill their artist roster.
I fell for this with the OC Music Awards and when I looked at the bands who were picked, based on you having to go through a secondary process of having all your friends vote on you, this isn't based on musical talent, it's based on who has the most friends. If you're an artist just starting out and trying to create a buzz for yourself, you are sh*t out of luck.
I prefer to save my money and try another route.
Chaeya

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:08 pm
by Scratchy
Apply....if you get called, find someone who will put up the cost of getting out there, on spec. Offer him/her 100% return over the cost (he'll double his money) if things work out for you. Zero if it doesn't. Most times in life, you don't get what you don't ask for. Find out what the "catch" is first. This sounds like a "Publisher's Clearing House" sweepstakes.

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:18 pm
by jimmydanger
The old saying goes: it takes money to make money. A better bet would be to take that money, press up a decent CD and mail to everyone in the online Musician's Bibles.

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:21 pm
by Mike Nobody
Chaeya wrote:Yeah, and Reverbnation and other sites like it are beginning to piss me off with that. They want like $30 per submission and I'm thinking, these guys are making bank. I get these submission requests almost daily from them, and when you think about it. the music awards show couldn't be relying solely on Reverbnation to fill their artist roster.
I fell for this with the OC Music Awards and when I looked at the bands who were picked, based on you having to go through a secondary process of having all your friends vote on you, this isn't based on musical talent, it's based on who has the most friends. If you're an artist just starting out and trying to create a buzz for yourself, you are sh*t out of luck.
I prefer to save my money and try another route.
Chaeya
Been there with the Detroit Music Awards.

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:35 pm
by RhythmMan
There's no charge to apply for this opening.
You just have to be better than most applicants - all but 150 of them . . .
A good friend of mine did apply, and performed at this show 2 years ago; she looked grreat in her gown - got the red carpet treatment, lotta photographs . . . LOTS of publicity . . .

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:37 pm
by MyHitRecord
We are still free!

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:58 pm
by RhythmMan
MyHitRecord wrote:We are still free!
.
That's not quite true.
.
From your web site:
". . . music sells for 33 cents each. Myhitrecord.com pays the artist 15 cents per purchase."
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That means that I pay you 46% of my income.

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:16 pm
by Hayden King
RhythmMan wrote:There's no charge to apply for this opening.
You just have to be better than most applicants - all but 150 of them . . .
A good friend of mine did apply, and performed at this show 2 years ago; she looked grreat in her gown - got the red carpet treatment, lotta photographs . . . LOTS of publicity . . .
Did it help her career any?

Posted:
Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:39 pm
by gbheil
Hayden King wrote:RhythmMan wrote:There's no charge to apply for this opening.
You just have to be better than most applicants - all but 150 of them . . .
A good friend of mine did apply, and performed at this show 2 years ago; she looked grreat in her gown - got the red carpet treatment, lotta photographs . . . LOTS of publicity . . .
Did it help her career any?
My exact question also Hayden. What was her " take home " from the deal.
I can get exposure by standing naked on my porch.
Did she "profit monetarily", or did the trip just cost her money ??
Not trying to be facetious. This to me is an important distinction if your in the business to profit.

Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:12 am
by Chaeya
Well if it doesn't cost anything, if you want to take the chance, go for it. I hate to be negative about these things, but I'm so over them. I'd just rather get the band together and play the usual clubs and get a following. If I can build myself a pretty impressive enough resume, then maybe they'll call me. I've yet to have someone come to me and say they got something out of it. The people who I know with very successful bands, who tour and actually make money, you never see them at these things. And when they say it's industry folk, it's usually a bunch of has-beens who haven't done anything noteworthy in over 15 years, which in this business means, they don't have any more clout than we do.
Chaeya

Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:53 am
by RhythmMan
Defeatist attitude.

Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:17 am
by gbheil
RhythmMan wrote:Defeatist attitude.
Defeatist ? or Realist ?
A defeatist allows negativity to stop them and prevent them from trying anymore.
A realist uses the information to seek out a more effective tactic.
There is no quit in a winner, they also wont waste any more precious time once they determine an activity is ineffective in reaching their desired goals.
EVER FORWARD

Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:22 am
by Mike Nobody
sanshouheil wrote:
A defeatist allows negativity to stop them and prevent them from trying anymore.
A realist uses the information to seek out a more effective tactic.
Yup. You have no idea how true it is.
Re: Success can be expensive. Can you afford it?

Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:47 am
by Cajundaddy
RhythmMan wrote:Reverbnation just sent me an invite to apply for one of the 150 slots for the Hollywood Music Awards.
But - you know what - if I GET one of those slots - I can't afford to fly out to Hollywood to perform!
Anyone else run into this kind of thing, where they can't afford success?
Don't sweat it. These Music Awards events can be found in nearly every major city in the US. While Hollywood does have a nice ring to it I would be surprised if it was any more or less of a "path to success" than the one within an hours drive from your house. This is essentially a showcase. A pay to play contest. It might be a fun experience but don't expect Sony to be handing out 7 year recording contracts.
http://www.bostonmusicawards2010.com/site/event-info