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Have you looked up the definition of patriot? According to Webster it is as follows.
Definition of PATRIOT

"One who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests"

Now I do not I call myself a patriot. I do love my country. However, I certainly do not support these pompous self indulgent "authorities" and I certainly have no love for their sick and twisted interests.

Now this is the new "web dictionary" definition of Patriot.

"One who loves and defends his or her country."

Not much in there about supporting its authority and interests in the "revised definition". Still dumbing down America.

As a wise man once said: Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.

Although I may not support the decisions of our political leaders at all times, I believe this country is worth fighting for.

America has the ability to change. Sometimes for better, and sometimes for worse, unfortunately. But change is the beauty of this country.

I dunno. I kind of like this definition - "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." ~ George Bernard Shaw

Actually that's called jingoism Phil.

Am I a patriot? Absolutely. I work and pay taxes, I vote, I support the leaders we elect - unless they're wrong. Do I support every action of our government? Of course not. But we have the best country in the history of the world, and if you don't think so please feel free to get the f*ck out.

I used to be a die hard patriot, when I had conviction that doing the right thing was paramount over all else. I served four years in the Navy under the Reagan administration. Over the years events changed my perspective and I now have to hold two opinions towards the USA. One adoration towards the land and it’s people, the other contempt towards those small factions who willingly exploit a less than perfect system. The government has become a playground for absurdity and off limits to the founding values of common sense and decency.

One of the biggest events that skewed my perspective was when my brother lost an infant daughter to pneumonia and it was instantly assumed to be “shaken baby syndrome”. http://truthinjustice.org/david-long.htm An overzealous prosecutor and incompetent coroner had him held in prison and the expected penalty would be lethal injection. After the lawyers ripped us off, the law partner was supposedly a leading expert in forensics, but the end conclusion of pneumonia escaped his consideration while we still had money to pay. The prosecutor may have been rabid and the coroner may have been incompetent, but the lawyers knew exactly what they were doing and knew it was wrong.

Eventually the replacement coroner and four other pathologists concluded that yes it was pneumonia and there was absolutely no signs of abuse. This coroner Joan Wood, still serves as “medical consultant” and insist she was correct on the original conclusion. The results were almost seventy thousand in legal fees, my entire family disrupted through suspicion and a brother who not only lost an infant daughter, but had to suffer as the Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde (The prosecutor’s description of my brother), accusation of causing her demise. If left up to a public defender, my brother wouldn’t be alive today. Recover of funds was a pittance of what was spent. Florida has a clause in the state law that exempts law enforcement from incompetence.

A second was when a good friend I knew for about ten years ran amok in the position of a loss prevention manager, tapping phone calls, breaking into lockers, reading mail and framing innocents to pad his statistics. Finally on an attempt to blackmail the manager I was able to convince the powers that be, that indeed these incidents were happening and they finally sent him packing. The company’s reluctance to do the right thing was based on pure dollars and cents and allowed it to continue for almost two years. Eventually the chain of inept command was disrupted by a replacement.

A third less severe incident was when two police officers stole a CB radio out of my Jeep at a restaurant. I literally caught them closing the trunk of the cruiser as I approached them. Total amount of time in disrupted surveillance of my vehicle, couldn’t have been more than three minutes. The time to walk twenty feet from a cash register, to a booth and glance out the window to notice the cruiser.

Combine it with the mass evaporation of morals of government from local to the president and I am now very disenchanted with our current system. The major cause can be directly attributed to lawyers and the perpetuating of their business by convoluting the law to the point of absolute ineffectiveness on both sides of the bench. There is just too much money to be made to persecute the innocent and release the guilty. To much to be had by distancing the common man, from common law. We have the highest incarceration per 100,000 citizens in the entire world, including china and Iran. http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf Is it utopia yet?

We used to be the land of the free, where common sense and decency left us relatively unmolested by the government to pursue our happiness. Now we are all subject to the pitchforks and torch wielding mobs who cater to the whatever the latest popular hysteria may be. The relentlessly expanding rulebook has replaced righteousness and the spirit of adventure that a free society requires and you are no longer required to do what’s right, just what’s marginally legal and politically correct.

So am I patriotic? Nah, not anymore. It’s not the same country that I grew up in and I owe no allegiance to the perpetrator residing instead. I’m not a terrorists, just an individual worn down and engulfed by the absurdity. I actually find it obligatory to state, I am not a threat to those government institutions who may be remotely dispensing my dosage of free speech, or those non-radicals who believe popularity in my opinion dictates the extent of my freedoms. (the non-radical remark was sarcastic by the way)

DUDE! We have the most ridiculous Myth of being a great country; our great country of the past is just that... The Past!

We are a nation building war mongering fascist state that has our nose in every dirty assed trick going on in the world.

Do you think that the rest of the world still sees us as the shining light of the world?

We are not the new Soviet Russia, we're worse:
we leave our borders unprotected.
we require searches from citizens for "permission to travel" within those open borders.
we protect and coddle illegal aliens
we start wars under false pretenses (Nam, WWII, Iraq, Afghanistan)
we jail our people for cannabis yet assist Afghanistan's farmers in growing opium.
we deal drugs (admitted in Iran Contra hearings) while jailing citizens for doing it.
we give 2.7 trillion dollars of citizens money to a small group of bankers yet deny a cost of living adjustment to the poor

Do you want me to continue for an hour? It wouldn't be a problem. My father's generation would have been hanging politicians years ago... and I'm not saying that for impact. In their day politicians or police that screwed the people got their homes burnt to the ground and the option of "leave or die"

We demand to know the secrets of the people yet will reveal nothing of what we do... We The People has become We The State.

It pisses me off to hear that bullshit myth still perpetuated. Tell it to the hundreds of thousands of people that have been murdered by this great country you speak of!

Tell it to the Iraqi people that still have no water or electricity.
Tell it to the several thousand African Americans (I hate that term) that were injected with cancer cells @ Cincinnati Univercity Hospital.
Tell it to the soldiers that were set exposed in front of nuclear blasts.
To the people that are starving while we give money to wealthy land owners for not growing food (corn).

Tell it to somebody else naive enough to believe it!

I don't really believe in that word "Karma" anymore...not in this lifetime. The roaches are fat and happy.

Kruliosis wrote:I don't really believe in that word "Karma" anymore...not in this lifetime. The roaches are fat and happy.

Karma often takes multiple lifetimes. Sometimes it is more apparent.

It's cleaning weapons after a training session and waiting for my cat to say it's go time.

Patriotism to me is; if you do not beleive in this, YOU DO NOT! belong in the United States Of America







and to Mr Nobody

I agree with RGMixProject 1000% but I just started this thread as a tribute to the 80's and Night Ranger that for the lack of a better word owned the 80's

J-HALEY wrote:I agree with RGMixProject 1000% but I just started this thread as a tribute to the 80's and Night Ranger that for the lack of a better word owned the 80's

RFLMAO sorry J-Haley sometimes the obvious escapes me, I took the question literal. I agree RGMixProject summed it up nicely in any case.