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What pattern do you use?
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:40 pmby KLUGMO
Intro -- Verse -- Chorus -- lead break -- Bridge -- Verse -- Chorus Out
I think I have probably used every combination at one point
or another. Even half verses and chorus in some. Rap to me sounds like
just one long verse from beginning to end to me sometimes.
One thing about Country is the ability to bend a vowel and make
a line work that way. Another is words that are Country words
like foundered.
That means when you've eaten so much of something that you
can never eat it again. You are foundered on it.
Rap does kinda the same thing with ebonics in the songs.
What tricks do you use to make your songs work?
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:17 pmby fisherman bob
One of the mysteries of music is what makes a song work. There are songs that are static, no key changes anywhere in the song like Canned Heat's On The Road Again, that are awesome. The only way to find out if a song works is to play it in front of a live audience. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms if it works...
Posted:
Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:21 pmby jimmydanger
I'm trying to see which one of these definitions you twisted into your new definition:
•fall through: fail utterly; collapse; "The project foundered"
•sink below the surface
•laminitis: inflammation of the laminated tissue that attaches the hoof to the foot of a horse
•collapse: break down, literally or metaphorically; "The wall collapsed"; "The business collapsed"; "The dam broke"; "The roof collapsed"; "The wall gave in"; "The roof finally gave under the weight of the ice"
•a person who founds or establishes some institution; "George Washington is the father of his country"
•stumble and nearly fall; "the horses foundered"
•a worker who makes metal castings
Regarding your OP, I've seen a lot of songs that are Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Lead-Verse-Chorus-Chorus. Another variation is Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Lead-Verse-Chorus-Chorus and also Intro-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Bridge-Lead-Chorus-Chorus.
Posted:
Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:46 pmby KLUGMO
I didn't twist it. It's just a word that is used in the South.
It's like "Oh no I cant eat another bite"
In the South "Oh no I'm foundered on that"
Here you go.
Yall come over to the house and get foundered on some
homemade peach cobler if yontoo.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:08 pmby fisherman bob
Many years ago I moved from New Jersey to Knoxville, Tn. The older people there spoke with such a heavy accent I literally couldn't understand many things they said. The first time I bought something at a convenient store they asked me if I wanted a sack. I had no idea what that was. A burlap sack? Then I realized they meant a bag. When I first moved to Kansas people kept telling me 7 Highway, 40 Highway, 69 Highway, etc. when giving me road directions. I had never heard highways referred to with the number first, always Route 66, Route 10, Route 46, etc. There's other local terms I can't think of right now, but different parts of the country have their peculiar sayings.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:37 pmby KLUGMO
I believe New Jersey may have a couple too.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:28 pmby gbheil
Play what I feel or what I'm told or what I feel based on what I'm told.
If it feels good ... play it.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:11 pmby philbymon
Pattern schmattern!
Write what the piece needs, not by a set formulae.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:18 pmby Slacker G
I have very little music theory. It amounts to this. If it works keep it, if it doesn't lose it. I use the same theory when writing songs or working out instrumentals.
Posted:
Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:21 pmby gbheil
Or girlfriends for that matter.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:53 pmby KLUGMO
You use these patterns whether you realize it or not.
Even you do schphil.
There's no SET pattern, its like shuffling cards.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:56 pmby philbymon
Not always. You haven't heard 1/10th of my tunes, Klugmo, but you HAVE heard "Morons," & there's no lead, no bridge, & NO CHORUS in that song, just three verses, & the last ends with a slight change in chord structure.
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Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:04 pmby KLUGMO
Sounds like 3 verses and a bridge outro.
It's still a pattern.
I just listened to it again and it sounds like
intro -verse - chorus - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - outro
Posted:
Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:08 pmby philbymon
anything you do in western music either follows a pattern, or sets one. I don't understand your point.