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This blows me away...

I may have to take my fiance up on those vocal lessons after all...

You wanna sing like which guy?

The lead guy isn't all that interesting, to me. He sounds like any number of modern rock singers these days. They all have that little rasp, & similar vocal tones & ranges.

Bores me.

The lead guy Phil.

I guess we're not hearing the same thing. I think he's awesome. His control is amazing to me... but I can't sing.

OK if thats what you want.

What about this Phillipe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jSrpn8E ... tube_gdata

Sorry man, not feeling it.

I believe I can sing far better than that guy. I used to sing mostly like that guy when I was in high school (class of '91), just using my talking voice, not able to transition to high voice, yelling more than singing.

After 20 years of slow improvement, my high voice project decently, along with some solid bass, I can sing anything from Johnny Cash to Foreigner and Ozzy, Plant, Halford.

But I sound like a tard trying to sing AC/DC.

I am not the greatest or even great buy any stretch but the guy in the link couldnt hold my jockstrap.

Please, I realize he is known and I am no-one but hey thats life.

If you want to hear a great singer, listen to Freddy Mercury cuz that guy was special.

EDIT: I am talking about the original post.

What are you referring to, Funk?

I figured it was chickenchit to compare my vocals to someone else's without a sample of my own. I put a couple of samples of me singing Sabbath and Zeppelin on my myspace.

Scroll down to songs 5 & 6. That is me singing, not on bass.

Flame away, do not hold back, I can take it.

I like your voice FunkD, you should just move out here and play with me.

The only thing that threw me off was the beginning of the Zep tune...not Tarzan enough like Plant.

Noticed you made friends with Mary Dee the spam queen. Why you tryin' to swoop on my girl bro?

Shinedown's vocalist may sound similar to other modern rock radio stars but like colors said he is a POWERHOUSE!! more control HUGE range. He definitely stands out as a best in modern music.

Zip, Cornell is another one of them ppl who shout the high notes instead of singing them, as if that means more, emotionally, than singing that note. I just don't like it all that much.

This year's Am Idol winner does the same thing. Bugs me, it does. Reminds me of Springstein, & who would call him a great singer?

It was certainly an interesting rendition, though.

Shinedown's singer might be great, but that example didn't show it to me.

Today's music is just like yesterday's, in that most of the singers out there are beginning to sound the same. You could take Cornell & put him in Shinedown, & it would be a seamless transition that few would notice. Same for Nickleback. Same for...well...the list goes on, doesn't it?

neanderpaul wrote:Shinedown's vocalist may sound similar to other modern rock radio stars but like colors said he is a POWERHOUSE!! more control HUGE range. He definitely stands out as a best in modern music.

Phew, someone finally agrees with me Man, this was getting to be a lonely thread


I mean, to each his own, eh? I love the guy... I have really liked Shinedown's music for a while, and a huge reason is his vocals.


I guess, my point was more like this: I can't sing AT ALL and I'd love to have that kind of power and control in my voice. My fiance says I sing on-key (when I lamely attempt to sing along with music; why I do that when I know I can't sing is beyond me; call me stupid). But even if I am on-key, I have no projection; no power at all. And definitely no control.

I am seriously thinking about voice lessons though. My fiance is a vocal coach (in addition to being a phenomenal singer herself) and she is often talks about the success she's had with certain students.

I'd just love to be able to sing. I write so much music on my guitar and then I have no way to put lyrics to it because I can't sing... It's an annoying inadequacy.

philbymon wrote:Zip, Cornell is another one of them ppl who shout the high notes instead of singing them, as if that means more, emotionally, than singing that note. I just don't like it all that much.

Interesting perspective Phil.

I don't think he's shouting at all. I think he just has great projection.

The shouting, to me, of high notes, is much more like what Jared Leto does in 30 Seconds to Mars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPIKNbvMuFg

Chevelle is the same way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP3Yhs8q7oM

I'm not a big fan of the shouting/screaming, but I do like the music a lot. There are a few Chevelle songs I really love, even with the screaming/shouting.

As for it being more emotional: hey, that's just how it feels to some people, ya know? I mean, we've all had the same arguments about guitar playing, ya know? What is "emotional?" It's subjective

Colors: Believe it or not...I love Shinedown!!! I also love his voice. The music is very simple, but it works. On that note...DEVOUR!!!



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Funkdealer: If you are better than this, then you should get a hold of me. I need a good bass player and a good singer for this project. Shawn and I are already writing new material and our new drummer is amazing. Dude has been playing professionally since he was 12 and he's mid-20's now. BTW...depending where you're at in Cleveland, it's only an hour or so from here. Might be interesting...

There's a huge difference between 30 Second To Mars' singer, who sings loudly, & the Cornell shouting. It's a whole 'nuther approach. I have no problem with singing loudly. It's a great tool in the artist's tool box.

When a singer is shouting outside his range, he loses my interest.

Okay, I'm listening to the Chevelle guy, & he uses the shout as an effective tool. The note is within his range, obviously, but he handles the shout throughout a phrase, to make an emotional point, & I can relate to it.

The Springstein attack, on the other hand, seems like it's a crutch for someone who doesn't have the range, & hasn't the creativity to make up for his lacking in some other way. I hear that a lot in the more modern voices, & it doesn't impress me at all.

One thing I think modern singers miss more today than at any other time in the history of music - a whisper can be more effective than a scream, emotionally. A slight alteration in tone can make all the difference in a phrase. You don't have to scream to make a point.

Pink Floyd used both to great advantage, as they told their stories in song, & I wouldn't call either Gilmour or Waters a great singer, but they really got the emotion through, simply by the use of the proper attack of the notes, attaching the right approach to the lyric in nearly every song.

Far too often, these days, I hear a scream that has nothing to do with the lyric. It's pointless BS, just like the stupid warbling scales that the r & b modern singer dumps in so often in new millenium music.

"Lemme show off ALL my skills in every song." It detracts from the lyric, & makes the song pointless. Effects are simply that, a tool to enhance the music, not something to showcase. The SONG should be showcased.

When you detract from the meaning of the lyric, you are a lousy singer, imho, just like a bass player that overplays, or a guitarist that steps on the singer, or a drummer that plays nothing but fills throughout a whole song.

Sometimes, the music is a backdrop for the lyric, & it should be approached as such. Other times, the lyric is an enhancement for the groove, & it should be used as such. But when you use a song to simply show off some tool for either your instrumental skills, or your vocal ones, you lose me, & it becomes a huge waste of time.