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I shoulda taken some pics yesterday!

My lil '87 Dodge Ram 50 was loaded with one helluva lotta wood! I had metal roof panels on it, too. It was riding awful damned low as I flew down I-81, hurryin' to get off the damned highway to the back roads before a cop saw me.

Steered real easy, though! heh heh heh

The walls on this damned gazebo are starting to collapse from the wind. They get regular gusts of 60 mph winds & more on this open hill where it was placed.

Starting work today, & boy do I hope there's a break from the wind! There's not a lot that's more dangerous than handling sharpish metal panels in 60 mph wind!

I could kick myself for not bidding this thing higher. My helper's making more than I will on this one.

This job's turning into a nightmare...I'm missing more tools from that theft a few months ago than I thought. I'm gonna hafta get creative to get it done...

AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

You mention that wind, a few years ago I worked at this plant with these conveyer belts, they were all covered with these fiberglass panels. They mixed materials up so one of the guys used to take two of the covers off to make sure everything was mixing. These panels were around 8 ft long by 2 ft wide, they didnt weigh anything but were jsut kinda bulky. They were outside and a storm blew up. So I run out there and grab one of these panels, a huge gust of wind hit me broadside and picked me up and slammed me into the building. I was ok but it did hurt, anyway a co-worker says your lucky and Im think why would you say that, I just id a bonehead move got body slammed. He pointed next to me and there were these two rebars sticking out of the concrete about 3 ft long just a couple of feet from where I got hammered. Can you say impalled?

Philby be careful!

Windy as heck here too Philby, not as strong as yours I doubt. Hope you day goes well and you get it sorted.

Try gettin' your hair caught in a sander, that's an experinece! That's what happened to me a while back when I used to work with wood, and had hair past mid-back. One day, I decided not to tie my hair back while being hunched over sanding down this board, and wham...I got the sander right next to my ear! One whole side of my locks were stuck in the motor. I had to rip out half of my hair to get "untangled". Ouch!

Yep, windy. Be careful and get er done.

Got it squared up, which was a feat in itself. The wind had nearly ripped the walls apart by the time I got there today.

It was better than yesterday, but not by much.

I did manage to get most of the rafters up, too.

So, tomorrow is the rest of the rafters, perlins, & the roof (I am REALLY dreading the roof panels for some reason).

The guy I'm working with is pretty good. That's a real comfort.

If its gut? Trust it. Take it easy and be safe Philby.

philbymon wrote:So, tomorrow is the rest of the rafters, perlins, & the roof (I am REALLY dreading the roof panels for some reason)..

Phil, I'm really sorry to have to say this, but that's not crazy it's dumb.

I do carpenter work with my uncle, mostly trim jobs, and we have done a few porches, decks and roofs. We NEVER carry metal in wind more than about 10 mph. NEVER...it's very dangerous and that tin turns into a big sail in anything over 10mph or so. we've been cut more than once, fortunately nothing severe.

Last roof over we did (secondary roof over a trailer) I carried 3 or 4 sheets up and the wind suddenly got up to around 20MPH, the last one almost got away from me. We shut down for the day right then.

Years ago when I was a lot crazier I carried 3/4" plywood decking up to a 2nd story roof in 20-30MPH winds, almost got blown off the roof a dozen times. I quit doing framing work a few weeks later when I smashed fingers with a hammer 3 times in one day in 28 degree windy weather. We did the 2nd story roof then a 3rd story one in a few days, both windy and both 3/4" plywood. So I know what wind can do...really dangerous. I've seen things like John described, I've been carried across the lot by even 1/4" plywood, fortunately on the ground and no injuries...I don't do it any more, I like to think it's because I have a little sense these days...

If you ever do that again I'm not only going to be worried about you, I'm going to come up there and kick your butt...then we'll have a big jam session...

Philby, when you hand your helper his check let him know he is making more than you and tell him not to b!tch the next time you make a grand in a day LOL! It happened to me when I was in buisiness and that is what I told my son that worked for me at the time!

agreeeeeed

The heck of it all is, that I've NEVER seen this property with 10 MPH winds or less, Pete. I'm just gonna hafta suck it up & do it, tomorrow. I've been working for the good Dr for over 8 years, doing nearly all his handyman work & lots of heavy construction projects, too. I'm not too askeered, though. I've done this stuff before...I won't even bid shingle jobs anymore. I'll do shingle repairs, but new roof? Metal all the way for me, man!

I firmed up the entire bldg today, & finished the rafters, but that's all I could do, & I'm burnt to a crisp, too! T'was a beautiful sunny day.

Tomorrow's s'posed to be a real nice one, temp-wise. I'm hoping for some calm, too.

Ya know...I REALLY miss my compressor & nail guns! It's hell swingin' that 22 oz hammer, esp since I haven't done it in so long! I'm plum wore out, folks! I'm gettin' too old for this sh*t.

You wouldn't believe the poor construction on this thing! It's about as bad as thier house, which is only about 10 years old, btw. (Another fine Dan Ryan piece o' crap, if you ask me!) This gazebo was s'posed to have been built by the Amish, at least that's what they advertise. I think maybe the Amish sold 'em the wood, & that's as far as thier contribution went.

You should see the crap down here. Most of the framing for the past 20 years has been done by crews of illegal mexicans, you're doing good to find 4 studs in a house actually 16"apart. Form what I've seen, a room less than 1/2" out of square is really good, over an inch is pretty normal. $300,000 for this garbage...

They better be thankful I'm not a builder or buyer. I would do things the way a deceased relative did. When he had his house built, he showed up after quitting time every day with a tape measure, level, plumb bob, square and sledge hammer.

Anything not straight, square or plumb got smashed all to hell with the sledge hammer, and the builder was required to redo it AT HIS OWN EXPENSE...after about 3 days, miraculously everything started to end up straight, plumb and square every time...

Now these people accept it as the norm. I hate it. I always believed in one rule. Do it right or don't do it at all. Period. Even if it takes 5 minutes longer.

You can't find that any more, even the local contractors want you to do it quick as possible and if it's a little off, so what...but a lilttle sloppy here and a little sloppy there adds up to some really crummy new houses. I've tried to trim out a room 1 1/2" out of square. Add 2 tubes of caulk and 2 hours to the bill...I've tried to install doors 1/2" out of square and nowhere near plumb...add another 2 tubes of caulk and another 1/2 hour...see where I'm going???

The trailer we're working on right now has 1"x2" studs. Yep, not 2"x2" like most trailers I've seen, 1"x2"...Leaks all over the roof, every wall stud I've seen is rotted out, every room way out of square, walls crooked everywhere...The outside wall studs are the only 2"x2" wood in sight. And it shouldn't be in that shape no more than 20 years old...The roof has been leaking for at least 10 years to rot out the studs and floors the way it looks now. Even the 2x6 cross beams underneath are rotten.

What the hell has happened to the quality craftmanship Americans were once so proud of??? Try to find good tools...All crap made in China...even when you do find made in America it's still crap...

It makes me sick...

Oh...be careful dammit...

Why be careful when you are right?

Because what he is doing is dangerous, and if he's not careful I'm going to come up there and kick his butt...

Dammit where is the kung fu smilie when you need it...hehe

You are funny, Thax Paleo, Love your playing.