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ZAPPA THEN, THEN AND THEN.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:13 pm
by KLUGMO

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:26 pm
by jimmydanger
I'm very disappointed in you Klug. You could have posted a link to a Dweezil video for a 'now'. :cry:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:32 pm
by philbymon
"I'm totally unrepentant."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4q__wuKyw

Yeah, he's one of my idols who's played with some of the best musicians & singers that ever lived.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:32 pm
by RGMixProject
Huh?

Every magazine

Every country

Major networks

Millions of albums sold

Huh?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:39 pm
by KLUGMO
DIFFERENT ANIMAL JD.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:50 pm
by jimmydanger
Huh? How so? He plays the music of his father note for note. Even plays it on the same guitar with many of the original FZ musicians.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:35 pm
by KLUGMO
Then where is he today? NOWHERE. No inovation, No spotlight, No TV spots. Nothing like his father.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:46 pm
by J-HALEY
Wow, That last one (the interveiw) I had never seen that! Someone posted a thread asking if you had ever seen a perfomance that moved you to tears. I must say this interveiw wet my eye's! :(

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:47 pm
by jimmydanger
What are you talking about Klug? Zappa Plays Zappa is very successful, having released a DVD and touring all over the world. They are preparing to release the first new Zappa album in years. In many ways I prefer his playing to his father's. And I don't remember FZ ever being on TV much so what the hell does that have to do with anything?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:51 pm
by J-HALEY
To me Dweezil Zappa contiueing his fathers music should be as close to seeing the real deal as you could ever want to get. I truly doubt he is doing it just for the money.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:08 pm
by jimmydanger
A must see concert if you dig Zappa. I see they just opened for Jeff Beck on Saturday, that must have been a mind blower.

http://www.zappaplayszappa.com/

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:19 pm
by KLUGMO
I'm just sayin that his father petty much created a whole genre of his own. Nobody did anything like that back then. He was all over TV Mike Douglas, TV interviews, Steve Allen, Saturday Night Live. He stood alone as one of a kind. Dweezil is a good player but he hasn't moved the earth like his father did. He is doing his fathers music 3-4 years in a row.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:49 pm
by CraigMaxim


Dweezil is a more competent and successful musician than Klugmo was aware. But he is right in elevating Frank above his son.

There will only be one Frank Zappa.

He was not just a genius, as a musician and composer, but intellectually as well.

HIS DEATH STILL SADDENS ME GREATLY!!!



PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:14 am
by jimmydanger
Well duh, Dweezil knows this. But to say he's irrelevant is just...ignorant.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:05 am
by CraigMaxim
jimmydanger wrote:Well duh, Dweezil knows this. But to say he's irrelevant is just...ignorant.



This was like what he did with the music upload thing.

In trying to strongly support or defend something... he feels he is doing a good thing, but takes it too far, on the polar side of it all, unwittingly. In other words... he's more focused on his PRIORITY and when he traps himself... he gets stuck, and when attacked for his error, he feels obligated to defend himself, cause in his heart, he felt his initial impulse was the right one.


That's really the problem with MANY people though.

Posturing.

It is so hard for alot of people to admit they were wrong about something. They expect to be mocked for it.... or maybe they were beaten up emotionally as children, and that kind of carried over, where they learned to DEFEND themselves forcefully, at some point... finally. But now as adults, to admit being wrong... feels like weakness, and makes them vulnerable all over again.

Children are cruel. Adults can be cruel to children also. And many children learn to be cruel (or tough) right back, to... well... survive.

If I could change one thing in the world, permanently, it would be that! To stop people from BULLSH*TTING THEMSELVES and ONE ANOTHER. To stop POSTURING, and just... GET REAL!!!

You can't communicate, reach consensus, compromise, understand one another, find enduring solutions to problems.... NONE OF IT, if you begin from a place of dishonesty.

When it begins in dishonesty, then everything that follows, has been based on a lie. How does anything REAL or MEANINGFUL or PERMANENT result, when it began in a lie?