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#106342 by fisherman bob
Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:46 am
Right about when the earthquake hit Mexico I was fishing right next to a large cement wall below the spillway at Hillsdale Lake in Kansas. For some reason I felt uneasy and actually was scared the wall would fall on me if an earthquake hit so I moved away to higher ground. I kid you not. I think it was right before the actual quake hit in Mexico. I never felt that way before in my life. I've had other strong premonitions before disasters including 9/11. I'm not sure I believe in ESP but both my parents have exhibited ESP on numerous occasions in their lives, maybe it's genetic.

#106343 by gtZip
Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:14 am
I wonder why your subconcious/psyche would react (or is reacting) to things that are about to happen so far away though.

#106359 by Robin1
Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:22 pm
I believe. Have a little myself. I would keep paying attention to the feelings. Someday they may help you out of a potentially bad situation. I have had feelings myself, sometimes I pay attention sometimes not, depends on how strong they are.

It is weird when it happens so strongly.

#106361 by philbymon
Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:25 pm
I've had some of that, too, but for me, it only occurs as it happens to ppl I know.

#106382 by ColorsFade
Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:18 pm
I've had premonitions - but I never know they are premonitions until the event happens, and then it feels like Deja-Vu. And I realize as the moment is happening that "holy sh*t I've already lived this event"...


It's freaky.

Maybe we've already all done this dance once before...

#106385 by philbymon
Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:52 pm
One way to look at it is that we always exist, but only in our time frame. If you think of it as a time loop, many things will seem familiar, vecause you have always experienced it.

I don't subscribe to that thought, myself, though it does explain deja vu & premonitions & such rather nicely. It doesn't really explain remote viewing, though, which is mostly what I've experienced, cuz I've seen things in places I've never been, either before or after the weird event...

#106389 by jimmydanger
Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:11 pm
Naturally I subscribe to science's explanation of deja vu: occasionally images are recorded in the long-term storage area of the brain before they are recognized by the concious brain as happening at the moment. So when that part of the brain finally gets the info it looks at long-term storage, sees the image there and concludes that the event is happening again.

#106393 by CraigMaxim
Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:53 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Naturally I subscribe to science's explanation of deja vu: occasionally images are recorded in the long-term storage area of the brain before they are recognized by the concious brain as happening at the moment. So when that part of the brain finally gets the info it looks at long-term storage, sees the image there and concludes that the event is happening again.



That is not the only explanation science offers though, Jimmy.

Some believe that we live in virtually unlimited numbers of dimensions simultaneously, where, each possible scenario plays out, in parallel worlds. In that scenario, we would feel we had been in a similar situation before, because we had... albeit, in another dimension... another version of our lives, actually lived that experience.

For me though...

I think people experience Deja Vu for the same reasons, some believe in reincarnation and have knowledge of previous lives, that they were never privy to in a modern age.

Scientific experiments on cannibalistic worms have PROVEN that knowledge of previous experiences can be passed on, even by INGESTING them. Cannibalistic worms, having learned how to go through a maze, were then fed to another group of worms which had NO EXPERIENCE yet, going through the same maze. After eating the worms WHO DID go through the maze, the newbie worms, went through the maze in half the time, compared with other newbie worms which were NOT fed their "experienced" worm brothers for lunch.

If knowledge of previous experiences can be INGESTED and become a part of your own thinking somehow, then how much more easy, would it be, for that knowledge to be passed, AT CONCEPTION, through the transfer of DNA itself? Imagine.... we all pretty much have ancestors going back many thousands of years... even millions of years ultimately.

Over millions of years of experiences, with DNA having been passed down, into a modern generation... there would have been any number of situations, in the past, that matched a "new" one we had today. In some of those moments, for some unknown reason, we are tapping into an ancestor's earlier experience, which then makes this new experience, seem like a memory. As mentioned, this also explains why people would believe in reincarnation... why someone could have very vivid "memories" of a life in 16th century France, describing in detail, under hypnosis, names and dates and places, that are later verified through public records, though this person had NEVER been to France, or had any other direct experiences with such a life.

It would seem to be the best explanation, therefore, that they had really BEEN to France in the 16th century.

But my explanation, fits those experiences, as well as Deja Vu and others, quite handily.

We really "ARE" the sum, of all that has come before us.

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#106397 by jimmydanger
Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:06 pm
Usually the most simple explanation of a phenomenon bears out to be the most correct. The "science" you refer to is fringe at best, and crackpot at worst. I personally do not believe there are multiple or parallel universes, again too complicated given the observed facts. Our universe is unlikely and fantastic as it is.

#106399 by ColorsFade
Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:16 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Usually the most simple explanation of a phenomenon bears out to be the most correct. The "science" you refer to is fringe at best, and crackpot at worst. I personally do not believe there are multiple or parallel universes, again too complicated given the observed facts. Our universe is unlikely and fantastic as it is.


Multiple dimensions and parallel universes are starting to gain some real steam in the scientific community.

I reserve judgment - I am no Einstein, no Hawking. I leave those musings for people with much higher IQ's than mine.

I think the idea is pretty neat though.

Whatever the truth is - it really doesn't matter.

I have right now. This time here. And my life has changed more in the last three months than I had ever imagined possible. I feel blessed by the things that have happened to me - so I am fully in the moment...


Live this moment. It's the moment you have.

(Hey, maybe there's song in that...)

#106401 by Kramerguy
Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:34 pm
I believe Einstein proved mathematically that you can indeed travel backwards and forwards in time. Invent a jet that can travel around the entire globe in an hour flat. You will traverse 23 time zones in one hour, effectively arriving at your destination hours in the future or past :)

The problem is that there really is no time travel possible - time is a constant, nothing more than a measurement invented by man. That, and you reset to zero every time you completely circle the globe :)

You could someday travel a year forward in time in an hour flat, yet your arrival at your time destination would still only be an hour later.

Same goes with parallel universes - no matter how many you can prove exist scientifically, the reality is that it's just a false (yet accurate mathematically) conclusion, even though every part of the equation prior to the conclusion can be based on fact.

All of this, of course, is my opinion :)

Nice to see a good working topic here that makes a person think about $hit!!

#106447 by philbymon
Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:25 pm
It amazes me that this sort of thing is considered a "gift," when, most often, the visions come at a time when you can do nothing about the event. It's more like a curse, if you ask me.

#106448 by CraigMaxim
Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:27 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Usually the most simple explanation of a phenomenon bears out to be the most correct.



So the Egyptian story of the deity Atum masturbating when he became lonely, which then resulted in all life coming about, is true?!!!

WOW!!! WHO KNEW!!! :wink:

LOL - Just kiddin'


jimmydanger wrote:The "science" you refer to is fringe at best, and crackpot at worst.


It's not as fringe as you think brother.

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#106453 by CraigMaxim
Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:58 pm


BTW...

Don't want anyone to confuse my words. I am speaking of Deja Vua and Reincarnation.... things based on the PAST! Not premonitions, which are of FUTURE EVENTS, and something completely different. That would be a spiritual event, and not something that could result from brain waves or DNA, etc...

Like some of you, I have premonitions occassionally too.

To me, that is completely a SPIRITUAL phenomenon!

#106456 by Chippy
Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:09 pm
Actually I've had some very strong visions of late while sleeping. None of them very good at all though there have been some brighter highlights too.

Yah brain is yah brain, its complicated, It empties though I'm often surprised.

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