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#105168 by TheCaptain
Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:42 pm
Not sure how long it'll take for this thread to self-destruct, but I'm gonna post anyway.

For some time now, as a musician who is a Christian, I've observed that many Christ artists seem to "play to the choir"..as it were.

Some time ago, I ran across this interview, with pretty much my all time favorite band IONA.

I think it's interesting..
(Tollbooth is the Interviewer)



Tollbooth - What sort of audiences do you play to over there?

Hogg - More of the mainstream venues now, although we still get a lot of the Christian audience coming to those gigs. But you also hope to get a mixture, an audience of people that are new to the music and who come along because it's a concert in that particular venue.

Bainbridge - The venues shouldn't be threatening to people that are not Christians because the music certainly isn't. We don't want to put people off who are interested in seeing the band just because we're playing in a church, which we do occasionally.

Tollbooth - What can your fans in America do to support Iona, so we can see more of you?

Hogg - Well, because we're all such happy family people at home, we hate to be away for long tours and basically refuse to do them. The best way for us is to play to as many people as possible in the shortest space of time--to do biggish concerts. Then, of course, promoters need to be sure they've got a big enough audience to justify putting on a concert in a venue that holds two or three thousand people.

Bryant - The history of rock 'n' roll hasn't had a great deal of respect for the family, and I think it's really important for us to bear that in mind. People have said to us, "We could make things work if you'd come and do six or eight weeks over here." Maybe that's good in terms of selling more records, but it wouldn't be good for our family lives. It's really as simple as that.

Bainbridge - The band is a lot more pigeon-holed as a Christian music band in America than in England where it's just perceived as a band doing ministry music as well. It's great to play things like Cornerstone, which is a fantastic festival, but I think sometimes playing the church gigs might be not hitting the audience we'd really like to hear the message.

In America, it's possible to be a Christian artist, and make quite a good living at it. You can go around and play at festivals, and never actually play to any people who aren't Christians. But there isn't that option, really, in England.

Donockley - You sometimes get the feeling that, because we're seen as a Christian band, and if we do strictly Christian gigs, that the audience are only there because we're a Christian band, and they'll like whatever we do, because we're a Christian band. That does actually happen.

Hogg - There are a lot of churches, even at home, who put on a concert for a Christian band, and they tell everybody to come and support them. It's not a case of come if you like the music; it's come and support the bands. So you get these audiences who don't really want to be there.

Bryant - Mums and dads and aunts and uncles.

Donockley - And because it is so pigeon-holed and sectarianized, the quality control is nonexistent; people just accept it, no matter how bad it is. "Yeah, yeah, they're good!" When chances are, they might be atrociously awful. So it's important for us to reach as many people as possible.
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Any other believers out there have any thoughts/perspective on how we have such a "sub culture" here, and how Christian artists interact with it?


Full article here:
http://www.celticchristiantunes.com/feature-iona0797.shtml

#105172 by gbheil
Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:53 pm
Thanks for posting this Rich:
We were invited recently to play in a local pool hall / bar.
We had to turn it down unfortunately due to a short notice.
Ray ( our front ) is moving (not away but actually closer to the bands central location ) however having purchased his and his wife's first home they are way over committed time wise.
Tony ( B/U vox ) had knee surgery just two days before as well.
We were all pretty disappointed that when this opportunity presented itself we were not in the saddle.

First I want to say that I think it equally important to "play to the choir".
Reason one: Christian brotherhood needs this support:
Reason two: Everyone "in the choir" has an opportunity to stray.
Reason three: Not everyone "in the choir" is "in the choir" for the right reasons and the message is important there too.
Reason four: I like to think that we can help stir up those comfort zone Christians, as well as motivate their youth. It is easy to be a good little church girl or boy until the hormones begin to rage.
God knows I know first hand.

That being said: One of our most successful gigs was done in a public park on a rainy day. We had numerous "curious individuals" whom came to hear, drawn by the music. ( soul gospel, rap, metal & us ) What they got to witness and in some cases took part in was a multicultural food, fun, and sharing of love.
One gent commented how great it felt to be in "a church with no walls".
I still get emotional when I think of the joy in his voice that day.
This is why we strive to be different from "pop Christian" bands.
Many people have difficulty with confrontation ( not sure that is the right word ) or too concerned about offending someone.
I strive to share from my heart with my voice and my music what a wondrous God we have that through Jesus, will forgive a piece of shyt like me.
And let the chips fall where they may.

#105183 by philbymon
Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:48 pm
Hey, you have a band. Play music. Play it anywhere you can.

You might want to keep the preaching part of the show out of the bar venues, though, if you do that sorta thing, imho.

I've heard many a band to the "secular christian" songs in bars - you know, the Kansas, U2, Doobie Bros, etc christianish hits, & they went over biggly.

If you're doing original material, play it. You don't even hafta tell ppl you're a "christian band," really. If your music is good, they'll dig it. If it isn't, you'll find out quickly, right?

Just my .02 as a musician & an audience member.

#105186 by gbheil
Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:40 am
philbymon wrote:Hey, you have a band. Play music. Play it anywhere you can.

You might want to keep the preaching part of the show out of the bar venues, though, if you do that sorta thing, imho.

I've heard many a band to the "secular christian" songs in bars - you know, the Kansas, U2, Doobie Bros, etc christianish hits, & they went over biggly.

If you're doing original material, play it. You don't even hafta tell ppl you're a "christian band," really. If your music is good, they'll dig it. If it isn't, you'll find out quickly, right?

Just my .02 as a musician & an audience member.


Hard to do when most all of our music is about Jesus.
But yeah, we only do the Scripture readings when "singing to the choir".
Otherwise we just let the lyrics do the talking. :wink:

#105190 by philbymon
Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:00 am
Yeah, that's what I meant...& the testamonials & the long introductions & stuff like that there.

:D

#105191 by TheCaptain
Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:46 am
Part of another interview with that same band, has them telling of how in Ireland(at least when the interview happened), there's no hugely overt Christian sub-culture, as there is here.
That fairly blew me away: as one who spends pretty much all his musical
time in that sub-culture.

The remarks about Christian performers getting audiences approval, despite sucking badly kills me, because I've seen it...lots

I love my brother in laws comment about that oft heard comment:
"The Lord gave me this song..."
and some of us think inside, "yeah the Lord was glad to get rid of it!"

:>

#105232 by gbheil
Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:16 pm
celticpiping wrote:Part of another interview with that same band, has them telling of how in Ireland(at least when the interview happened), there's no hugely overt Christian sub-culture, as there is here.
That fairly blew me away: as one who spends pretty much all his musical
time in that sub-culture.

The remarks about Christian performers getting audiences approval, despite sucking badly kills me, because I've seen it...lots

I love my brother in laws comment about that oft heard comment:
"The Lord gave me this song..."
and some of us think inside, "yeah the Lord was glad to get rid of it!"

:>



LOL

A mans Joyful (or loud depending on translation) noise unto the Lord need only express the mans faith and please the Lord.
No one said we have to like it.
That's why I only sing without a mic !! :wink:

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