General Music Chat

Michigan State advances! Go Green (even though I usually say go blue).

Stupak has decided to vote for the Health Care bill after reaching an agreement with the White House on abortion. Congratulations to him for standing by his principles and doing what is right.

The American political process still works. The sky will not fall tomorrow.

Stupak just showed us his name should be changed to Stupid. I bet the very next presidential decree will be to about face. Abortions will be covered.
Presidential decrees are only meant to be used in the face of severe national crises, not to change congressional votes.
Our govt is changing the rules without the peoples permission, this is just the first step to tyranny, control over every aspect of your life, and the total failure of a system that withstood these kinds of attacks before.

Even stranger,,,, I am more concerned about the average America being sold this bill of goods. I hate to sound like such a capitalist ,,, but I am working to take full advantage of this so I can make some money off all you poor people that think this is so great.
AINT AMERICA GREAT

Stupak has been fighting since last June to keep abortion a non-covered procedure, as most of us agree it should be. Yes, he's a Democrat, just like me, but we don't want federally funded abortions - and with this decree they won't be covered. You need to give credit where due Glenny or all of your arguments just look like the ravings of an angry little man.

The executive decree:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/21/te ... er/?hpt=T1

Republican and Democrat are just labels so they can quickly choose up sides for drunken Sunday softball and the slap and tickle that goes on after the game.

You are so right jimmeny, Thanx for setting me straight.

Stupak just showed us his name should be changed to Stupid.

But we wouldn't call names or talk ugly about folks would we? Those of us on the informed side do not have to resort to such.

Presidential decrees are only meant to be used in the face of severe national crises, not to change congressional votes.

Really?

"A signing statement is a written pronouncement issued by the President of the United States upon the signing of a bill into law. They are usually printed along with the bill in United States Code Congressional and Administrative News."

So it seems it did exactly what it was supposed to do, clarified the purpose of the bill being signed into law.

Really, do you just make this stuff up?

Wasn't the last commode in chief guilty of having more signing statements than all the other presidents, combined? How many steps did he & Cheny's evil brain take us toward tyranny?

I just don't get you, Glen. You're an enigma wrapped in a mystery & stuffed with misinformation & venom to the point that you just hafta explode it all over us.

Been smoking more than legal stuff again ,,,,EEHHHH.

"During the administration of President George W. Bush, there was a controversy over the President's use of signing statements, which critics charged was unusually extensive and modified the meaning of statutes."

The first president to issue a signing statement was James Monroe. Until Ronald Reagan became President, only 75 statements had been issued; Reagan and his successors George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton produced 247 signing statements among the three of them.[10] By the end of 2004, George W. Bush had issued 108 signing statements containing 505 constitutional challenges.[10] As of January 30, 2008, he had signed 157 signing statements challenging over 1,100 provisions of federal law.

There are also different uses... for instance Many of the controversial ones G.W.B. issues CHANGE existing Federal law.

Then there is the use of previous "statements" written by previous presidents... such as Obama using one signed by Bush to ignore some of the mandates of the Stimulus bill when he signed it into law.

Those and the ones "Clarifying" laws are generally issued or applied when a bill is signed, so they are included as the law is implemented. Those are generally "decent" things that can't get by a lobby bound congress.

While Obama, and most of America have a negative view of them overall... they have been used, and will be used. So limiting your "firepower" when you are trying to win a "Battle" doesn't seem to be a good idea, I guess you use the power you have wisely.

Dewy, god love ya, but you have just as much double talk as some of the rest.

lol