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1. Term Limits: 12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six year Senate terms
B. Six Two year House terms
C. One Six year Senate term and three Two Year House terms

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.






2. No Tenure / No Pension:

A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.






3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security:

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, Congress participates with the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, server your term(S), then go home and back to work.






4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.






5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.







6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.








7. Congress must equally abide in all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.






8. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void effective 1/1/11 .

The American people did not make this contract with congressmen, congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term(S), then go home and back to work.





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Actually, I strongly disagree with the entire concept of term limits. I figure that if a guy is doing what his constituents want him to do, they should be able to keep him in office, rather than go out looking for someone else who may not do what they want. If they're stupid enough to keep a guy in office who doesn't do what they vote him in to do, they deserve what they vote for.

I would also apply this to EVERY gov't office, including the presidency. LET ME HAVE WHO I WANT IN OFFICE!!!! Screw your term limits!

I agree with (no) term limits, although have no established limits does entice election fraud (keeping incumbents in office).. it's a slippery slope, for sure.

But I also agree that they should have the same benefits and security everyone else has.

As it stands congress HAS national healthcare. If they had what WE, the people have, that sh!t would have been fixed 25 years ago, and fixed RIGHT.

I also think they should be forced into retirement at 65, like the rest of us.

Maybe we should go back to the begining,when George Washington had the courage NOT to be tempted by absolute power, but the wisdom to turn down a third term in the greater interest of a new country.
We have way to many politicians that don't give a sh*t about you and me and our country ,on all levels,local state and federal.
Serving in GOVT should be an honor and privelidge,,,not a lifelong career.

It was a personal choice, & there was much more he could do as an ex-pres, like be ambassador abroad, representing this country...he simply chose another route. This decision was not imposed on Washington, but I don't think his reasoning necessarilly applies as well today as it once did. I see his point, that the new country should not make the mistakes of the past, etc, with lifelong royals running things & such...still...this IS a republic, where an educated voting base can make qualified decisions. Today's voter has a wealth of info at his fingertips that the voter of the past did not have.

I have no problem with anyone making any job he wishes a life-long endeavor, be it musical or political, as long as he continues to perform well at his craft, or "do his job"...I also don't want anyone telling me I can't play bass anymore cuz I'm over an age limit or cuz I've played it so long. If the politician is satisfying his constituents, he should be allowed to do what he does well, & the voter should have the option of using his expertise & experience & past record to benefit the community.

We are not talking about playing base. We are talking about progressive socialists that want to take away everything you have and give it away to someone LESS FORTUNATE. Redistrubution of wealth,Phil , do you really think it is only going after the RICH.
Man ,If you would back off these Ideas, YOUR HOME WOULD BE PAYED OFF, YOU WOULD HAVE $200000 In THE BANK , AND HEALTHCARE WOULD BE A MINOR POINT.
YOUR Govt has stolen so much much money from all your hard work,fed,state,local. I can't believe you are not OUTRAGED, we are talking about your family. Some one posted THE SOUNDS OF SILENCE ,how profound.
Phil I am actually on your side, You are a great American, I am just sick of all the THEFT of the fruits of all our hard work. It is in part because we have to many life long politicians. EG Ted Kennedy, He KILLED A GIRL and was rewarded with a lifetime position in the senate.B.S.

I don't see how my views on term limits bringa about so many disasters, Glen, or backs socialist ideas, or helps ppl overtax me...

I think there should be a lot of reform in the way we do many things, though.

For example - there should be NO tv coverage of the progression of national elections until they are OVER! Let the ppl in the west have some frikken HOPE that thier vote is counting, anyway...all the way to Hawaii & American Samoa...

There should be limits placed on how much ppl can spend for advertising in any campaign, as well as limits on how long we the ppl should have to be hammered with campaign ads. I think any candidate should be able to state his case in, what, 2 or 3 weeks? WHY do we hafta listen to this crap for years?

In any campaign ad, the candidate should only be allowed to talk about his agenda, his plan. He should never in any way be allowed to even mention his opponent. I've become sick to death of negative campaigns, & it's this rudeness, this mentality, that finds its way into other areas of our lives. It's a blight on our society, & our leaders should be LEADING us away from that type of behavior.

Any candidate that uses the words "god told me" should be immediately shot in the knee with a minimum of a .45 caliber hand gun. Other shots to other joints should follow, if he continues to use that phrase.

Any individual OR corporation should be limited as to how much they can legally donate to a candidate's campaign, & that limit should be set at ten measley dollars. Let the popularity contest begin! If this rule is broken, a HUGE fine should apply. I think a single 40% income tax would stop it.

Any candidate using foreign funds in his campaign should be charged with treason.

These lil ideas are only in the beginning stages, but I feel confidant that big changes would be benificial for all Americams...

clearly Glen, the "LESS FORTUNATE" don't deserve ANYTHING because they were too f**k stupid to inherit their wealth like the other wealthy ppl ... how dumb are people to let themselves be born into poverty? Dumbasses. They should hve been born into weatlth like GWB. Then they too can snort coke off a hookers arse and ruin the country, eh?

My god, according to your reasoning, Obama should have ALREADY destroyed the entire planet two times over. Get a grip dude.

Kramer,the less fortunate are people like you that want the govt to come along and hand them a check for$10000 a week just because they are alive. I LOVE that idea except for one little thing... Who the flotsam is going to pay for it. I am not against helping anyone in need. The single parent out working 2 jobs just stay afloat,,,You keep taxing ,,, 60 hours a week,,,,lets make it 80, and raise more taxes. Don't believe the BULL that these people are not sharing a tremendous tax burden. Just like you they are getting killed by HIDDEN taxes.
As for obama ,he has not done anything in his first year except pass the blame.
The only reason he hasn't destroyed this country ,even with a majority congress is because he has incurred the wrath of the American people and now is back pedaling on everything. Sorry Kramer , looks like you won't be getting that free money after all,not from these pockets,not in my lifetime.
I hear Greece has a pretty good deal for people with your kind of thinking,what a shame they are almost bankrupt. I wonder why.
WAKE UP AMERICA!

And lets not forget that he had Christmas tree ornament of a mass murderer and total anti christian butcher aka mao tse tung hanging on the white house tree. You gotta be kidding.
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Oh for crying out loud, Glen! The white house xmas tree merely showed the leaders of the world stage. Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, if they ALL had been included, I wouldn't gripe about it. Thier influence on the world has been well established. BFD already!

I don't see this as the threat that you do, other than perhaps pandering to the country that now practically owns us lock, stock, & barrel after the economic mistakes of the last regime.

Attacking others who are living the American nightmare isn't a good thing to do, either. No one here is asking for gov't handouts. We are asking for a fair chance. That's all.

I WOULD like to hear you explain this statement a little more clearly, though - "Man ,If you would back off these Ideas, YOUR HOME WOULD BE PAYED OFF, YOU WOULD HAVE $200000 In THE BANK , AND HEALTHCARE WOULD BE A MINOR POINT."

Those of us who are having tough times are not sitting on our asses begging the gov't for handouts. Nor are we doing nothing to better our situations. We are grasping at the damned few straws that remain, & are appalled to see more of them being taken away by our fed. state & local gov'ts for the benefit of everyone BUT us. Our numbers are growing daily, too.

Back off the personal attacks, Glen, They aren't warranted. We are not gonna see things the way you do. Accept it.

Back off it Philby , you are ridiculous , you would be one of the first people crying when they drag you out of your house.
Mao on a Christmas tree is a major insult, and idiots think it's OK.
All your problems stem from the fact that buy into all this CRAP.
You are not a lazy person, you have shown moments of extreme innovation,but have you done anything to change your situation?????

As far as Mao on a christmas tree , how the flock could you even suggest we put up even more mass murderers , ARE YOU JOKING?????
I don't know where you come off Idolizing hitler,stallin pol pot ,mao, che ,castro,or any other mass murderer. ARE YOU LISTENING TO YOURSELF?
HOLY SUGAR .
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

C'mon Phil, I just get mad as heck when I know someone like you or Kramer are having too much stolen away from you.
We are talking about great American talent, as musicians,and talented workers.
I get angry because govt at all levels are just stopping your right to succeed, in the name of what is proper to protect the poor, or advancing whatever is the social program of the day.
I don't care about me, I will succeed at anything I choose ,no matter how many curve balls are thrown. It's hard working people like you that allways seem to get hurt the most. I don't have all the answers, but I do know if something isn't working you MOVE ON. You don't keep trying to graze in a barren field.
Phil I am not trying to attack you in any personal way. Your frustration is starting to show. I wish I had a solution to all the worlds mess, and world peace.
I have offered my solutions to our local mess and unless you are willing to try something that has alredy been HISTORY tested, ,,,You are going to continue to be frustrated,then bitter, then in need of someone else to blame.

You are right, Glen. They ARE stealing our right to succeed - by ignoring the needs of the ppl in favor of the greeds of the very few. I don't need anyone else to blame. It's clear as day to me.

How about instead of term limits we limit the pay to $75,000 anually.
No insurance, pay your own meals, buy your own car, pay your own fuel, no retirement, no voting yourself a raise.
And if you profit from "brother in law" deals we hang you.