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An end to global warming?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:23 pm
by fisherman bob
As of a few days ago 64% of the United States had at least some snow cover. The Kansas City area had its 3rd snowiest December on record (I'm still scraping and shoveling a little every day). All the K.C. meteorologists are predicting temperatures to not get above 20 degrees Fahrenheit for at least ten days, with possible low temps 10-12 BELOW ZERO next week.
A few years ago I read a report by a scientist (sorry I forget his name) that predicted that the Earth is headed for a decade of BITTER COLD weather starting THIS YEAR. This is based on phases of the Sun and other factors in our solar system, NOT on man's activities.
I LOVE cold weather in the Winter. I say bring it on. That's what Winter is for. Apparently most cities in the U.S. have under-budgeted their snow removal crews. A lot of U.S. cities have run out of money already. Oh well I guess everyone's going to have to purchase a shovel and GET BUSY...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:44 pm
by Crip2Nite
We now have over 6" of snow and no end in sight... 3rd snowfall in less than 2 weeks... Winter just started 1 1/2 weeks ago...again...GLOBAL WARMING MY ASS!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:47 pm
by J-HALEY
The county that Houston is in (Harris) has already used the budgeted amount of the stuff they spray on bridges to keep them from freezing over when we get cold fronts down here and so far it has got cold enough to freeze here 1 time LOL!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:58 pm
by gbheil
We no longer call it global warming.
Those on the cutting edge of blaming mankind are so powerful we can control an entire universe that effects earths climate if we just pull together, stop eating meat, stop driving cars, and for gods sake don't exhale your poison green house gasses.


The appropriate term is CLIMATE CHANGE.

That way we can blame any severe weather event on YOU !!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:14 pm
by chipfryer
I wonder sometimes? It isn't about how much snow you get, how much rain, how much drought? Sad fact is its about the time it takes for that change to take place. Fluctuations in essence.

Anyway hope Mothership decides on an early visit? I was planning on taking them around the place! :D

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:16 am
by gbheil
Don't bring em by my place unless they've got their Kevlar skivvies . :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:31 am
by CraigMaxim
sanshouheil wrote:Don't bring em by my place unless they've got their Kevlar skivvies . :wink:



I knew that was coming! ;-)


Chippy, you can bring 'em by my place. Then I can meet you and them at the same time! If you trust them, they're prolly alright! :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:21 am
by fisherman bob
The Bluefin Tuna Band is playing next Saturday when it's supposed to be a possible record cold for that date. Maybe we can crank up enough heat with our amps to burn the place down. Band made global warming!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:11 am
by J-HALEY
I hope you guy's get to rock like you know you can! :D

please don't tase me bro!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:19 pm
by chipfryer
Well I have the crater here in my backyard already Craig. I think I'll need to get a GPS so we don't get lost on the way down to you. :D

CraigMaxim wrote:Chippy, you can bring 'em by my place. Then I can meet you and them at the same time! If you trust them, they're prolly alright! :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:12 pm
by fisherman bob
Last night into this morning we were supposed to get 1/2 inch max, it's already up to three inches, possible four by noon. Another bigger storm due in mid-week, then temperatures plunge to possible 10-15 BELOW zero by Saturday morning. Every day I've been shoveling our parking lot a little. No money available for snow removal. I've shovelled about eight car spaces myself.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:26 pm
by gbheil
Why do you get to have all the fun Bob.
Dang it, send some snow down here. Most of these morons are not prepared and cant drive on it anyway. They are just too stupid.
Me I love it !!!!
I can make a lot of extra dough dragging there dopes out of the ditch with my Jeep.

Band made global warming is the BEST idea yet.
Another good reason to use a good old vacuum tube amplifier. :twisted:

Extreme Ice Survey

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:08 pm
by ColorsFade
For most people, seeing is believing.

I can understand why climate change is so hard for some people to swallow - because we're talking about very small changes in avergae global temperature having massive effects, and for most people that doesn't add up. It's something that is hard for most people to quantify because they can't see it, and because their own personal anecdotal evidence suggest otherwise (like FishermanBob)

Most people see the temperature where they live fluctuate 70 degrees (F) over the course of a year, so they don't understand how an average global change of a half a degree can make a difference.


I submit to you the Extreme Ice Survey: http://www.extremeicesurvey.org/

Time lapsed photos take over the course of two years show that the glaciers around the world - every single one of them - are receding and they are not being replenished.

http://www.extremeicesurvey.org/index.php/new_gallery/

If you get time, I encourage you to watch some of the time lapse videos. You will have your eyes opened. Look at how far the Columbia Basin Glacier shelf has receded in just two years:

http://www.extremeicesurvey.org/index.php/new_gallery/timelapse_31/

Folks... Global Climate Change is a real deal. It's time to take our collective heads out of the sand and start realizing what's going on. Continued denial - particularly at the hands of right-wing radio pundits who only care about cashing in on the fear and doubt of their listeners and making millions of dollars from radio shows - will only prolong the inevitable.

Seven billion people on earth. And everything we do uses fossil fuels. It's not just about the energy your car uses - it's about the energy that planes and boats use to cross the ocean, that trucks use to transport goods, that everyone uses to create electricity, the energy we use to make plastics and other goods... Our effect on our world is massive.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:27 pm
by Prevost82
Folks... Global Climate Change is a real deal. It's time to take our collective heads out of the sand and start realizing what's going on. Continued denial - particularly at the hands of right-wing radio pundits who only care about cashing in on the fear and doubt of their listeners and making millions of dollars from radio shows - will only prolong the inevitable.


And there's no fear mongering from the left?, what do you think your doing with that statement. GCC has turned into a religon, to the point that if you don't believe it, you're nuts or the anti-christ.

There is also lot of money involved in GCC, research grants, developing new technologies, and we all know when money is involved, anything can be made to sound like it's the thing to do, even science, which has been skew and damaged to the point that I don't know what to believe. How can you believe that they can model weather (climate) out 100 yrs when they can't get a 5 day forecast right.

I do know one thing the sun and sun spots, volcanic eruptions, tilt of the earths axis or wobble, are responsible for 80% of our weather. Yes the glaciers are melting but we don't have the data to know if this event has happen before ... the earth was very warm at one time, or so they tell us.

Seven billion people on earth. And everything we do uses fossil fuels. It's not just about the energy your car uses - it's about the energy that planes and boats use to cross the ocean, that trucks use to transport goods, that everyone uses to create electricity, the energy we use to make plastics and other goods... Our effect on our world is massive.


So what do you purpose we do, stop living, because there is nothing at the moment that can replace fossil fuels. Wind & solar can't replace it, they'er not base load energy. Are we to ruin our economy ... to the point that we can't survive, to go down a path that may have little or not effect on GCC based on science, that may be junk science.

You can't get 7 billion ppl to stop doing what they do everyday and that is use energy, it's part of our life style and will only increase.

Lets face it, until someone come up with a viable solution to the energy problem without destroying the world as we know it, there's not much we can do. This whole thing reminds me of "Chicken Little". In the 70's, when I was in my 20's the cry was Global Cooling.

Ron

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:52 pm
by chipfryer
What I think really annoys me is the ignorance of science as a whole.

There is a Thermal current which passes most of our globe. It's deep down in the ocean and has been there (I think?) since the ice age. Basically its like Earth's radiator apart from the core of course. We do live on a water planet after all.

When snow caps melt this unsalted water is more dense and sinks down into the depths of said warm water current, carried along just like a virus. The effect is of cooling. This may take time of course but its a fact.

This will change weather patterns.

Once this system as I understand it is disabled? There is no turning back until such time as Earth sees fit to warm up the Northern Hemisphere by whatever means? Yes people are cashing in on this but their families will be no safer for that fact either.

Anyway on a lighter note. I got my mate on the southern part of Earth watching his sink so he can tell me which way the water flows? :D

I INT DOOPID yah know.