Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:54 pm
philbymon wrote:Oh good grief!
I was so looking forward to this year, too!
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philbymon wrote:Oh good grief!
I was so looking forward to this year, too!
spaceman1 wrote:From the title of this thread, It appears that god and I have something in common.
CraigMaxim wrote:neanderpaul wrote:sanshouheil wrote:LOL
These people are just stupid.
God hates the act, not the actor.
Bingo
See bro?
You say that. And yet, it is the ACTOR and not the ACTS that God allegedly burns (without burning up) for eternity.
Why would that be Paul?
When he "loves" us?
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gtZip wrote:
In the end Craig, the actor is the sum of all his acts.
CraigMaxim wrote:
Amazingly NO ONE can give a reasonable to answer to this question, of why God would keep HIS CHILDREN "ALIVE" merely to torture them. What lessons are being learned by anyone? The victims of God's torture? What good is their finally learning a lesson, when they cannot then live a godly life as a result?
CraigMaxim wrote:Paul,
The common theme in your last responses, is that you CANNOT know if you are going to Heaven or not. Cause God would have to determine whether you were sinning as a hobby, or a lifestyle.
CraigMaxim wrote: Pretty scary way to have to live
CraigMaxim wrote:Atheists have more confidence in their final destination than you do.
CraigMaxim wrote:All I can say to that, is you are missing out on one of the most important aspects of faith in God... the confidence that you are part of His family, a child of God, who does not have to fear death, because you KNOW your eternal life is secure.
CraigMaxim wrote: You have a works-based religious belief, despite what you profess to the contrary, because you have to work your ass off, in fear,
CraigMaxim wrote: when all the while, you can never really be completely sure what your relationship to God is, whether He is "pleased" in your work enough, using whatever formula you think God uses to determine the correct PERCENTAGE between sinning as hobby or lifestyle... whether he is pleased enough to save you, and therefore not condemn you to Hell.
CraigMaxim wrote: I am happy though that you believe we are born "sinless",
CraigMaxim wrote: although this is not normal Christian theology. The overwhelming majority of Christian traditions, teach that we are born into a sin-nature, that "In Adam ALL die" and are connected to the root of sin.
CraigMaxim wrote: Surely you have heard the term "Original Sin"?
CraigMaxim wrote: I was also planning on responding to your comment about me trying to rob you of your faith, I was going to say something like...
"I'm not trying to steal your faith, but INCREASE it!!!"
But after reading your last responses, yes, I would LOVE to "steal" your faith, because your faith is not in God, but something else. Yes, I would love to steal your faith in yourself, and replace it with what it should be... Faith in the Creator.
What a convoluted way to live.
CraigMaxim wrote: And your response is interesting, because as you know, I think of you as a Pharisee, which if your group was back in Jesus' day, that's what they would have been... a works based group like that. In any event, they too, accussed Jesus Himself of trying to steal from them. They claimed that Jesus was trying to DESTROY the law, whereas Jesus said, He had not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. He was trying to FREE them from the law. But they loved their rules and traditions, so they stayed enslaved..
CraigMaxim wrote:But be careful not to commit an act of sin on your death bed though.
CraigMaxim wrote: It will be game over then, because while you try and differentiate sinning as a hobby versus sinning as a lifestyle... God does not make this differentiation where Heaven is concerned.
CraigMaxim wrote:Paul,
Wow! You guys are quite the heretics!
CraigMaxim wrote:But I realize your particular CoC, may not but into what other CoC's do, since, like terrorist groups, you guys operate as individual cells.
Couldn't resist yanking your chain! LMAO! (I was just joshing though)
CraigMaxim wrote: But...
It brings up an interesting point, which happily strengthens what I have already known... It's all about the heart... not about the rules, the traditions, the protocol, etc...
CraigMaxim wrote:So you have George, a man who loves Jesus, and yet your doctrine would be foreign in many respects to his church's, and his Pastor would call your beliefs (and mine) a "strange doctrine", and yet you believe you are following the original beliefs of the Apostles, and he is not. And you would also call my beliefs a "strange doctrine" even though some doctrines you hold, I share with you, but not with George (born sinless)..
CraigMaxim wrote:And yet, we all (I hope) claim to love Jesus and be His follower.
CraigMaxim wrote:And I know you believe that following "correct doctrinal practice" - at least, as you understand them, is something essential in order to please God, while I just see Satan using it to divide and conquer.
CraigMaxim wrote: Three people who love Jesus, should be able to convert an entire city, into the fold of God, working together for the GREATER GOOD, the real purpose of God.
CraigMaxim wrote: K.I.S.S.
Keep it simple stupid