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#90938 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:47 pm
http://www.slate.com/id/2235051/

How Many Times Can You Shoot a Handgun in Seven Minutes?

More than a thousand.
By Brian Palmer
Monday, Nov. 9, 2009


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FN-Herstal 5.7mm handgun


Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the army psychiatrist accused of gunning down 13 people at Fort Hood on Thursday, managed to fire 100 rounds with a semiautomatic handgun between the start of his rampage at 1:20 p.m. and the time he was shot at 1:27 p.m. How many rounds can a handgun shoot in seven minutes?


At least 1,500.


Modern semiautomatic weapons can discharge a round and load the next bullet into the chamber faster than even the nimblest of fingers can pull the trigger. FBI studies have shown that a novice can fire three shots in less than a second, and a trained shooter can double that. (Two of the officers in the 1999 Amadou Diallo shooting emptied their 16-bullet magazines in about four seconds.) That means an experienced gunman can fire off a 20-round magazine—the likely capacity of Hasan's gun—in 3.3 seconds. Reloading takes under two. You just press the magazine release button with your shooting hand and insert the new magazine into the grip with your offhand.* Experts holster extra ammunition on the side of their nonshooting hand to speed the exchange and can have the new magazine loaded before the empty one hits the ground. So each 20-round magazine would take no more than 5.3 seconds, including time to reload. That means you could fire off 1,575 shots in seven minutes—provided you were carrying 79 magazines on your person.


There are a few potential snags. Each magazine is over an inch wide, and you probably couldn't lug around more than 25 magazines on your belt. It might take two minutes to get through those 500 bullets; at that point, you'd need someone to hand you more ammunition. In addition, each gunshot creates fouling—a combination of unburned powder and metal filings from the casing and bullets—which can accumulate and cause the gun to lock up. Overheating would also be an issue: A pistol can get so hot from the exploding gunpowder and the bullet screaming through the barrel that the cartridges ignite without the trigger being pulled, a situation called cook-off. The heat might also cause the barrel to deform slightly, decreasing accuracy.


With or without a laser-straight barrel, aiming is an issue when you're firing as fast as you can. Hasan minimized that problem by choosing the FN Herstal Five-Seven Pistol. The relatively new gun—it hit the market in the late 1990s—uses longer, skinnier, and lighter bullets than more popular handguns like the Glock 9 mm. This means there is less recoil, so a shooter can recover his aim between shots.


The slowest handguns on the market are revolvers, which hold five or six bullets in multichambered cylinders. The original revolvers were single-action—in between shots, the user had to cock the gun with either the thumb of his shooting hand or the thumb or palm of his nondominant hand. (Still, a skilled shooter could squeeze off five or six rounds pretty quickly.) Modern double-action revolvers don't require this extra motion, but the triggers are much stiffer than those of semiautomatic pistols—12 pounds of finger force is required, as opposed to five or six. Reloading is also more complicated. Placing the bullets into the chamber individually can take several seconds. A speed loader, a plastic device that lines up over the chambers and drops the bullets in at the turn of a knob, is faster but still can't match the speed of a semiautomatic pistol.


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#90939 by gbheil
Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:52 pm
If I'd fired 100 rounds there would have been 100 dead.
Rag headed camel jock must not no how to shoot for sh*t.
Long live the Smith and Wesson model 19 !!

#90942 by CraigMaxim
Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:07 pm
sanshouheil wrote:If I'd fired 100 rounds there would have been 100 dead.



Ha ha!

Damn, I'm glad I don't piss you off -AND- live in Texas while doing it!

LOL

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#90944 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:28 pm
From old legends, 100 shots were unloaded at the OK corral and no one was hit.... Untill Doc Holiday used the shotgun he had.
WW2 raised all new questions, when they found out that only one in ten soldiers would fire their wepons to KILL, unless it was a matter of extreme self preservation.... The New Army was born.
Killing and hurting another being to that level ,goes against everything we have ever been taught.
Amazing how hard it is to kill a person, One of my customers took 4 direct hits from the LIRR gunman, She survived.
Dont outlaw guns, just outlaw mean people.
I know thats a crazy idea,I have a better one.

No one has to work any more, Complete free health coverage, 2 new cars in every garage, no more property taxes, cigarettes will no longer cause cancer,free money for everyone,politicians will never alter the TRUTH,and best of all,WE ALL WILL BE better guitar PLAYERS.

#90948 by gbheil
Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:34 pm
Now hold on just one danged minute there Glen.
We've got to have at least a couple drummers. :D

#90963 by Chippy
Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:32 pm
Copy 'n' paste was a great feature. It allows the Author.................
What should worry everyone is that he was a psychiatrist.

#90965 by Southernboy
Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:33 pm
I have for sure 100% smoked 25 +28? Hodgie`s with a belt fed Maw Duece( that`s a M-1A .50 cal Hvy.M.G. to you who don`t know) from a crow`s nest on top of a HUMV. I used a little less than 65 rds and was shooting thru walls !!! May they join their virgin brother`s with ALLAH !! God I love Mr. Browning !!!

#90977 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:17 am
Yeah till he gets a BB gun and shoots his other Eye out .
[A CHRISTMAS STORY]

#90979 by Southernboy
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:22 am
lol !!! Good movie !

#90980 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:22 am
THEIR BACK, :) This was not where I posted it. FREAKIN CANADIENS.
I know proper spelling,, Canadians,, You are right.sorry.
I had to edit this ,,,before I even posted it ,, It was changed.
TOO FUNNY.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

#90985 by CraigMaxim
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:36 am
GLENJ wrote:
FREAKIN CANADIENS.
I know proper spelling,, Canadians,,



Actually, if I am not mistaken, I believe your spelling "IS" how the French Canadians spell it. And some other countries spell it like that as well I think.

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#90991 by fisherman bob
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:49 am
EVERYBODY has been looking at this the wrong way. One man, an American, who is a radical Moslem, is NOT kicked out of the military summarily because his radical associations are a DIRECT conflict with the country he is serving with which is AT WAR with people he supports. One man can do this kind of damage with a few handguns. What about the possibility of a radical Moslem who is in the air force and is a pilot who has access to bombers FULLY LOADED? Shouldn't the U.S. summarily dismiss ALL Moslems in the military who are even suspected of having any association WITH OUR ENEMY? It is an INSANE policy to be politically correct in a time of war. Another thing which is AN INSULT TO ME. What the HELL HAPPENED TO MILITARY TRIBUNALS FOR ENEMY COMBATANTS? They are talking about transfering detainees at Guantanimo to America to FACE CIVIL TRIALS? WHAT KIND OF HORSESHIT IS THAT? In the good old days when we were at war we took enemy combatants, lined them up against a wall and blew their GODDAMNED f**k BRAINS OUT. WE ARE AT WAR GOD DAMN IT. WE NEED TO EXECUTE THE ENEMY. GET WITH THE PROGRAM. THAT'S WHAT WAR IS!!!!!!

#90993 by Southernboy
Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:54 am
War, 99% bordem & work 1 % terror

#90999 by Starfish Scott
Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:27 am
"let the bodies hit the floor"

#91000 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:29 am
FOOK U CRAIG WHY YOU GOTTA BE SO HELPFUL. :lol:
Man we gotta get this country back on track,,,,and then we gotta JAM.

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