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Miggie " VALERIE"... After the war....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:56 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Miggie I went back and listened to your song a couple more times.
Overall I thought it was quite good, but still a demo.
There is this word in songwriter language called PROSIDY,[poetry and melody]. amazing singers can violate and step all over this to make the worst lyrics sound great and vice versa.
I just don't think you gave yourself enough time to learn how to interpret your own lyrics, very important. also be careful of EE EE EE. It works sometimes, but maybe EEeeEEeeEEee might be more effective.
It's not your voice, thats great, it's just hard to get the right interpretation to make the song come across. It will come to you.
There are hundreds of songs that wouldn't have made it unless the perfect fit was made,Carley Simon comes to mind,Tremendous writer, singer,etc, BUT I like the way some of her songs were done by other artists more than when she does them.

Sorry about Chippy, he doesn't usually get involved in wars like that. That is why I'm trying to keep him to the topics of music.I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to steal your thread on " UNITED STATES" , but if I posted this there I doubt you wanted to see any more.

Keep writing and singing Miggie,good stuff , only way to get better. :)

Re: Miggie " VALERIE"... After the war....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:58 am
by Miggie Lou
GONGHEAD wrote:Miggie I went back and listened to your song a couple more times.
Overall I thought it was quite good, but still a demo.
There is this word in songwriter language called PROSIDY,[poetry and melody]. amazing singers can violate and step all over this to make the worst lyrics sound great and vice versa.
I just don't think you gave yourself enough time to learn how to interpret your own lyrics, very important. also be careful of EE EE EE. It works sometimes, but maybe EEeeEEeeEEee might be more effective.
It's not your voice, thats great, it's just hard to get the right interpretation to make the song come across. It will come to you.
There are hundreds of songs that wouldn't have made it unless the perfect fit was made,Carley Simon comes to mind,Tremendous writer, singer,etc, BUT I like the way some of her songs were done by other artists more than when she does them.

Sorry about Chippy, he doesn't usually get involved in wars like that. That is why I'm trying to keep him to the topics of music.I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to steal your thread on " UNITED STATES" , but if I posted this there I doubt you wanted to see any more.
Keep writing and singing Miggie,good stuff , only way to get better. :)


I like how you titled the post "after the war" :lol: Thanks for starting a new thread! The last one ended up all messy :roll: I didnt write "Valarie", its a song by Amy Winehouse, I wish I would have wrote it. But I will admit I recorded the song in literally 30 min lol I was in a rush to get somethin up there. Not the smartest move in the least bit! But im working on recording a bunch of originals ive written over the years right now, I just got finished with one Tuesday and I would love to post it but I just want to make sure its perfect befor I do. Umm, I also took like 3 bong hits befor I sang Valarie lol Im young and learning :oops: :P Your right about the EEEEE's hehe, Oh and I dont think chippy ment anything but good. Hes awesome in my book :) Thanks for the extra support I needed it :D . Im "in between bands" and have a few auditions coming up in Oct so well see what the music gods have planned for miggs!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:18 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Just meant some positive support. One of my friends from England has a song in the top three John Lennon song contest, I just hope any support I gave her helped.
I guess I place to much value on being your self,and I think that is where you are at.
I would love to hear your songs.

Re: Miggie " VALERIE"... After the war....

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:32 am
by BobdoB
GONGHEAD wrote:Miggie I went back and listened to your song a couple more times.
Overall I thought it was quite good, but still a demo.
There is this word in songwriter language called PROSIDY,[poetry and melody]. amazing singers can violate and step all over this to make the worst lyrics sound great and vice versa.
I just don't think you gave yourself enough time to learn how to interpret your own lyrics, very important. also be careful of EE EE EE. It works sometimes, but maybe EEeeEEeeEEee might be more effective.
It's not your voice, thats great, it's just hard to get the right interpretation to make the song come across. It will come to you.
There are hundreds of songs that wouldn't have made it unless the perfect fit was made,Carley Simon comes to mind,Tremendous writer, singer,etc, BUT I like the way some of her songs were done by other artists more than when she does them.

Sorry about Chippy, he doesn't usually get involved in wars like that. That is why I'm trying to keep him to the topics of music.I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to steal your thread on " UNITED STATES" , but if I posted this there I doubt you wanted to see any more.

Keep writing and singing Miggie,good stuff , only way to get better. :)


Wonder if Ms. Winehouse would be interested in this critique?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:14 am
by jw123
Miggie, if you were closer to TN, I could probably get you in a few of our shows.

I like your voice but more importantly I like your sense of humor in dealing with the negative distractions that go along with posting on these open forums. That will serve you well in this game.

Good Luck in your musical endeavers and life in general.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:21 pm
by philbymon
Looking forward to your next song, Miggie. It better be perfect.

You could get any number of ppl in almost any area to build a band around your voice & personality. If you work a stage as well as you work the forum, I'll bet you do a great job fronting the band.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:48 pm
by Kramerguy
jw123 wrote:Miggie, if you were closer to TN, I could probably get you in a few of our shows.

I like your voice but more importantly I like your sense of humor in dealing with the negative distractions that go along with posting on these open forums. That will serve you well in this game.

Good Luck in your musical endeavers and life in general.


I was going to say the same thing, although Philly :P

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:00 pm
by Miggie Lou
GONGHEAD wrote:Just meant some positive support. One of my friends from England has a song in the top three John Lennon song contest, I just hope any support I gave her helped.
I guess I place to much value on being your self,and I think that is where you are at.
I would love to hear your songs.


Man thats awesome news about your friend! She must be a very talented writer! Feel free to give me advice anytime cause I dont think your ever too old to learn new tricks. I know I have a loong ways to go but im happy to soak up any knowledge any musician has to offer :D god knows I need it lol

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:09 pm
by Miggie Lou
jw123 wrote:Miggie, if you were closer to TN, I could probably get you in a few of our shows.

I like your voice but more importantly I like your sense of humor in dealing with the negative distractions that go along with posting on these open forums. That will serve you well in this game.

Good Luck in your musical endeavers and life in general.


Thanks JW!! I will take you up on that offer if im ever in TN you can believe that lol You too Kramer! I cant wait to get back to bein in a real working band like you fellas! Its gonna be like a won the freakin lotto hehe :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:16 pm
by Miggie Lou
philbymon wrote:Looking forward to your next song, Miggie. It better be perfect.

You could get any number of ppl in almost any area to build a band around your voice & personality. If you work a stage as well as you work the forum, I'll bet you do a great job fronting the band.


Im really a big nerdzilla dude, Querky as hell lol but hey arent most musicians? I just wanna make them laugh and dance, thats my goal :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:58 pm
by philbymon
I'm right there with ya, girl!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:53 pm
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
At least I gave you back your thread :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:55 am
by Miggie Lou
GONGHEAD wrote:At least I gave you back your thread :lol:


LOL yes you did thank you! :D