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So I took my grandson Jace out on the canoe yesterday. We went out on a quiet little 7 acre lake nearby with a friend of mine. Rowed the entire length of the lake, then stopped to sit in the water & play a bit. When we got back in to paddle back to my truck, he REALLY wanted his own oar...he shrieked the entire trip back to ground, his voice echoing off the yards of the ppl who live there. They prolly thought I was killing him slowly...LOL

Boy, I hope he outgrows the terrible two's soon, or I am either gonna go deaf or start screaming, myself!

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LOL, yes well all have to deal with these little trials when raising young,uns.
One of my daughters started that in a store once upon a time.
I screamed back in my loudest possible lions roar.
The others in the store were all WTF?
My daughter was initially shocked, and then laughed at her silly ol dad almost as loud as I had screamed.
Kids, got love it.

U know I spanked my son once in a grocery store for that and he never did it again.

And I know half of you on there will nail me for that, but I have friends who let their kids run wild and time outs and all that crap, and their kids are really giving them hell now. I may get it yet but my son and daughter have always been very well behaved. I get compliments all the time on being such a good dad. I dont really know what I did. I mean when they wanted to touch the stove I said touch it and see, I ,they did and we both agree thats not much fun and we wont do it anymore.

The one thing I always did when they were small is try to talk to them like they were adults. I treated them with respect, or like I would have liked to be treated. Maybe I got that part right.

I have one friend who always told his kids no, but never gave any conseciences for their actions. No means nothing to his kids. Another friend always said maybe, his kids just assume that means yes.

Of course nowdays to tell them anything I have to pull the I-Pods out of their ears. Its really a challenging time to be a parent. There are so many outside influences. My kids have always thought I was a cool dad, cause when I look back on my life I have done so many diverse things and been so many places. Last night my daughter was putting a penne on her elbow and flipping it into her hand she did it perfect. She said I bet you cant do that. I hated to tell her that that was a drinking game I did years ago. At one point I could catch a whole stack of quarters. I did it and caught the penne. SHe said I should have known, and I said what. She says "Dad youve done everything", I guess its cool to be looked up to by your own kids.

Ive ranted enough and left myself wideopen.

Its another day in paradise, that just sticks in my mind today, actually "Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green and the girls are pretty......................................."

LOL, you wont get any flack from me for providing some back side guidence.
All kids are different, one of mine responded better to a "stern talking to"
The rest pretty much required a little more persuasion
Removal of privilige works well at times, and extra chores.
My dad would pretty much just tell you once. The second time you had to wait for your ears to stop ringing to hear what he was saying.
He balanced that with a lot of love and his time doing stuff for or with me.
A neighbor once asked him how he kept his kids from playing in the street. Dad told him, Give me a belt and a week and I can keep you out of the street. Was a short conversation.
I really only now, realise how much he sacrificed for us.

Bing a dad aint easy. But it has it's rewards as well.

I am pro-spanking. It actually prevented me from killing my kids.

I never believed in spanking. I found that just waving the gun in the air did wonders.

No, actually, I spanked my kids when they needed it. I had a little deal that, I might tell them "NO" once, or several times depending on what they were doing, but when I really meant it, I'd snap my finger when I said "NO", and if they did it again after that, they would get spanked. Taught them to quit at the snap of my finger. My wife, on the other hand, would keep telling them "NO" until she was pissed and then would spank them. I never spanked them in anger and to this day, they respect me for it. Now that they're grown, they tell me that they would have always preferred a spanking from me than the talking to's that I gave them. I had this way of speaking calmly, but to the point that got my ideas across. I think I got that from my dad, because I only remember a few spankings from him, but lot's of his talks.

Wait for the terrifying Threes and the not so sweet sixteens , But you already know about those being a grand . My wife and I raised my 10 year old grandson till he was 7. Im real glad my daughter was able to beat those pain killers. Me , I appreciate every ass whooping I got growing up. Lots of Love , patience , and dicipline goes a long way .


And its another day in Paradise !!!

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2 is too young to spank cuz there's diapers in the way...LOL

In stores, I simply put my hand over his mouth & growl at him in a mean voice to stop it, & he does...I get some weird looks for this, but I find that my voice can be pretty scary for a young one. In lieu of that, a smack on the wrist does well, so far.

I did spank his father, but only after the diapers stage, too.

I give this lil guy a bit of slack, cuz he physically CAN'T communicate, as yet. As that comes along, I'll adjust accordingly, & there will be no more screaming. I figure it's gotta be pretty tough not to be able to say something that might get me what I want. It's gotta be like ppl that get a stroke, or something, ya know? The idea is there, but you can't get it out. So I TRY to be patient.

The board of education should always be applied to the seat of knowledge...

In other words, spank the little twits when needed and you won't have all the trouble people have with their kids now. I see them running wild in the stores, have been slammed into more than once, on one occasion with two kerosene lamp globes in my hand, almost broke them and nearly knocked me down, watched kids slam into gray haired old ladies...it's disgusting...

The problem? No discipline. Politically correct idiots decided a few years back spankings were child abuse, now we have a generation of maniacs running loose in the streets. My niece was too lenient, now she's having trouble with 3 teenagers.

I never had kids, but did help my sister raise two nieces, and yes we did have to use a belt now and then, but I always avoided it unless necessary. Like Rat noted, they usually stopped at the snap of the fingers, they knew the belt was next.

And this is not a new situation. I worked in a catalog store in about 1978. Had to vaccuum the huge place every morning, and just as I got through one day two kids about 8 or 9 ran up to a big screen TV and thought the mirror tray was a seat (really bad design and top heavy). Fortunately I was very close and grabbed the first one before he could get a foot in, his mother happened to see me just at that moment and ran over there berating me for yanking her little brat around. I said OK, see that $3200 price tag? Now watch this.

I pushed downward on the mirror tray they were about to sit in with one finger and it started to topple over. I knew this and stopped it of course, then I told her to add that $3200 to her hospital bills if her boys had managed to sit in the thing, because I would have certainly made sure she paid for it if they had damaged it. The hospital bills would have certainly been an issue, that TV weighed around 250 lbs or better, one of the heaviest ones in the store. If it fell on top of an 8 year old he would definitely be headed for the hospital...She grabbed them each by the ear and walked them briskly out of the store both screaming...Ow...OWWWWWW....

It would have never happened if she had simply made the same rule my parents did. When you go to the store, your hands go into your pockets and they'd BETTER stay there...my old man was not one to go for gentle spankings...he whipped your ass with a thick belt and you knew he'd been there...

Black57 wrote:I am pro-spanking. It actually prevented me from killing my kids.

LMAO!!!

I truly respect parents whom can raise their children with disipline and rarely if ever resort to the corporal punishment, I have met a rare few.
I however aint one of them.
One of my boys was complemented by a lady in town for his respectfull speach to his father, my son looked at her puzzeled and said, I am standing in fist range. And just smiled at her.

Aim for the fatty parts.. lol

Paleopete wrote:

I never had kids, but did help my sister raise two nieces, and yes we did have to use a belt now and then, but I always avoided it unless necessary. Like Rat noted, they usually stopped at the snap of the fingers, they knew the belt was next.

And this is not a new situation. I worked in a catalog store in about 1978. Had to vaccuum the huge place every morning, and just as I got through one day two kids about 8 or 9 ran up to a big screen TV and thought the mirror tray was a seat (really bad design and top heavy). Fortunately I was very close and grabbed the first one before he could get a foot in, his mother happened to see me just at that moment and ran over there berating me for yanking her little brat around. I said OK, see that $3200 price tag? Now watch this.

I pushed downward on the mirror tray they were about to sit in with one finger and it started to topple over. I knew this and stopped it of course, then I told her to add that $3200 to her hospital bills if her boys had managed to sit in the thing, because I would have certainly made sure she paid for it if they had damaged it. The hospital bills would have certainly been an issue, that TV weighed around 250 lbs or better, one of the heaviest ones in the store. If it fell on top of an 8 year old he would definitely be headed for the hospital...She grabbed them each by the ear and walked them briskly out of the store both screaming...Ow...OWWWWWW....

It would have never happened if she had simply made the same rule my parents did. When you go to the store, your hands go into your pockets and they'd BETTER stay there...my old man was not one to go for gentle spankings...he whipped your ass with a thick belt and you knew he'd been there...

I don't know why but men are better at controlling kids with or without the whipping post. Even when I was dating my husband all he had to do was say "stop" and the kids would do as he ordered. But the point I wanted to make on your post was that it takes a tribe to raise a child and that is the truth. These days, you have to be tremendously careful with touching a child that is not your own, even if it means that you saving their lives.

Now my mom would whip us with a swtch which was quite tasty. But my dad would have us hold out our hands and he would whack them with his hand and it didn't even hurt but I would just sob every time.

I had a great childhood.