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A Soldier's Final Return Home Honored By Thousands...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:28 am
by CraigMaxim
If you haven't seen this...

FROM A FORWARDED EMAIL:


(Keep a tissue handy...it's 12 minutes long and shot from the front seat of a police cruiser but beautiful to watch.)

**Killed in action the week before, the body of** **Sergeant First Class John C. Beale** was returned to Falcon Field in Peachtree City , Georgia , just south of Atlanta , on June 11, 2009 . The Henry County Police Department escorted the procession to the funeral home in McDonough , Georgia . A simple notice in local papers indicated the road route to be taken and the approximate time.

Nowadays one can be led to believe that America no longer respects honor and no longer honors sacrifice outside the military. Be it known that there are many places in this land where people still recognize the courage and impact of total self-sacrifice. Georgia remains one of those graceful places. The link below is a short travelogue of that day's remarkable and painful journey. But only watch this if you wish to have some of your faith in people restored. Please share widely.

VIDEO:
http://blip.tv/play/AYGJ5h6YgmE

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:35 am
by CraigMaxim
I actually live in McDonough currently.

I've lived in Gerogia now for almost 10 years, off and on, and I can tell you first hand, this is not an unusual occurence, or that this guy simply had a lot of friends.

While Georgia isn't the only place which does this, here, you will find cars still pulling to the side of the road, on BOTH sides of the road, out of respect, whenever any funeral procession come through. When it is a military person being laid to rest, you will see hundreds and thousands of people, who will come to the roadsides, bringing flags, dressing in their uniforms, holding their hands over their hearts etc... Showing a great deal of honor and respect for the sacrifices made to keep them free and their nation safe.

It is a powerful and emotional thing to be a part of.

It's one of things that make a person proud to be an American.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:38 am
by CraigMaxim
Just a side note...

Set aside time to watch the full 12 minutes. You will see different things along the way, including a billboard made in this service man's honor. If you love this country, it will be moving to watch each minute of it. If you have doubted your country, watch anyway, it may restore some of your faith, in what has made us a special people.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:56 pm
by gbheil
Thanks Craig, you do him honor in recognising his sacrifice.
It is however equally important to recognise these men and women, while they are still alive.
They are not the hapless rabble from trailer parks that cannot find another job as the leftest would have us to believe.
I have had the priviledge of training many of these young men and women privatly. There dedication is noteworthy.
Almost to the man, of those I have known personally could easly have been engineers or other well paid professional in the private sector.
They choose to serve.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:56 pm
by fisherman bob
We need to start thinking seriously about this war. This is PERMANENT WAR. When war is declared in the Muslim world it is UNENDING. Westerners think of wars as finite. They usually last three or four years and then they are over. NOT in the Arab world. When the state of Israel was declared in the late 40's all their Arab neighbors attacked Israel simultaneously. That was OVER 60 YEARS ago. Have you noticed the attacks have NEVER stopped since? America is viewed as Israel's biggest benefactor, thus we have been added to the list of PERMANENT enemies of Islam. EACH ONE OF US needs to think about what we can do on an individual basis to fight this war in our own way. Whatever happended to VICTORY GARDENS, WAR BONDS, etc.? We also need to do everything in our power to get off energy dependency on any other country. That means opening up every available source of energy HERE, including nuclear, coal, oil, wind, solar, natural gas, etc. Get used to this war. It's not going to end any time soon...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:00 pm
by gbheil
Where is Code Pink?
Where are all the professional anti war demonstrators?
Funny that they are all now so strangly silent. Hummmmm :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:07 pm
by fisherman bob
sanshouheil wrote:Where is Code Pink?
Where are all the professional anti war demonstrators?
Funny that they are all now so strangly silent. Hummmmm :lol:
The anti-war demonstrators were liberals (democrats). Now that PBO is in charge (President Barrack Obama) you won't see any war demonstrators. PBO is ramping up the U.S. effort in Afghanistan, which won't do any good by the way. The radical Islamists will simply outlast us and when the war becomes economically untenable we will withdraw with our tails between our legs.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:28 pm
by gbheil
You may well be correct Bob. But if I were in control of the troops in Afganistan it be over already. War crime? War is a crime against humanity and GOD. If you MUST, then there are NO RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BUT ONE.
KILL THEM ALL WHERE THEY ARE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
Why risk lives of a thousand of troops to take a enemy held village you can destroy with one cruse missle? You will save more "non combatants" lives by just getting it over with.
The answer is that "sustained" police action type of engagements pump trillions more dollars into the coffers of world bank, whom are financing both sides, and have since WW I .
Thats why it will never end while man kind is in control.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:07 pm
by CraigMaxim
The principles of defense in war, and the principles of passivity NEED one another. They balance each other out.

I often think of it as a parent/child relationship.

A parent who has experience and has lived many years, often walks past a homeless person with a cup in his hand. Some may keep gift certificates for food for such circumstances, but nevertheless, most adults understand that if you give money to a homeless person on the street, he is going to use it to buy alcohol or drugs, which just adds to the problem of their state of homelessness (not to mention their mental illness, which is the most common cause of homelessness in America)

But a child... a child only has compassion, and wants to give money to each of them they see. You can explain to a child that they are likely going to use the money for drugs, which is not good for them, when they are homeless and maybe mentally ill as well, and yet the child's heart still suffers from not being able to assist them. They may then ask: "Well, can't we go over there to the McDonald's and get him a hamburger or something?"

"Yes son, we can do that. Come on, let's go!"

Experience makes one so wary of the usual ill-motives of others, that they often shut compassion down to an extreme, as a sort of defense, against being used or taken advantage of.

Children on the other hand, trust too easily, and ARE taken advantage of for it, sometimes to their own detriment, sometimes to their own deaths.

A child needs the protection of an adult's wisdom. An adult needs to be reminded on occassion, of the value of child-like compassion.

War saavy individuals are necessary to keep checks on our survival. Pacifists are necessary to keep checks on our conscience.

The trick is BALANCE.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:04 pm
by CraigMaxim
But, I should say...

The experienced part of me says Bob and Sans are quite correct. This is not nearly over. THIS IS the beginning of the end of war. The famed Third World War. The Battle of Armageddon. And it makes sense, that this final war will be a religiously motivated one. Religious faith tends to make one pursue an end, regarless of the cost or outcome, whether for good or for ill. People would not blow themselves up en masse, if they did not sincerely believe that a heavenly reward awaited them for this sacrifice. The Kamikaze pilots of Japan, believed something similar, only they were serving an earthly god. Religious motivation is among the most powerful of motivations that exists. One of our most basic reactions, is known as "fight or flight syndrome" which is an ancient and evolutionary drive for self survival. Clearly, a strong religious motivation, overcomes, even this most basic of instincts.


"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. "

- General George Patton



People fighting from strong religious fervor don't subscribe to that sentiment.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:41 pm
by gbheil
I see the art of war to be he same for and individual and a nation.
When attacked destroy not only the ability but the will of your attacker immediatly and return to the mood of peace.

I do not believe the present war has anymore to do with religion than the American Civil War had to do with slavery.

It is being instigated and perpetuated by globalist for the purpose of profit and control. That page was torn right out of the communist manifesto.

It has not to do with God or the art of war.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:12 pm
by Chippy
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:45 pm
by CraigMaxim
Sans,

It depends on whether you are speaking of the trees or the forest. Looking at trees, then the small armed conflict occuring in the Middle East right now, could very well be about oil, or limiting their influence or any combination of things.

I am speaking of the forest.

A global war, that has not yet been realized.

There is a tremendous amount of wealth in oil rich nations, which are primarily Muslim in religious persuasion. They are NOT going to have their faith stripped from them. I don't think any globalist is naive enough to believe this is even possible.

So if you are speaking of a globalist agenda to destory religion as an institution, I can't see that being realistic. Strongly held faiths like Islam, will not be changed easily, or taken away by force.

There is not much attack on RELIGION anyway. There is really more of a worldwide attack on a SINGLE religion. Namely... Christianity. It is the religion of Christianity under assault. And while humanists may believe this is because of the many "evils" done under the banner of Christianity, this is false. Christianity has done FAR MORE GOOD than evil in this world. Just as America has done FAR MORE GOOD than evil in this world. In fact, the primary reason that America has sought to do good when it has, is because of the strong Christian influence here.

They may think they are against "Christianity". They are really against Christ. This is a set-up for the last days.

As I have said before. The Temple Mount in Israel is the ONLY place where their Temple can be established. They have waited nearly 200 years to rebuild their temple. It is the ONLY place they can practice animal sacrifice. The synagogue is a place for learning Hebrew Scriptures, but animal sacrifice is not allowed there. And animal sacrifice is neccessary, because as their scriptures teach them, without the shedding of blood, there is NO REMISSION OF SIN. There are Jewish Rabbis, who have the instruments required for this type of worship. They are waiting... just waiting, to be able to use them in the correct place. Which according to scripture is the Temple Mount and NOWHERE ELSE!

The problem of course, is that on this very spot, on the Temple Mount, the ONLY place where God will allow them to build their temple, there CURRENTLY exists a Muslim Mosque. The third holiest site in the world to Muslims. Unless this Mosque is destroyed, there will NEVER be another Jewish Temple, and they never will be able to practice animal sacrifice and be redeemed. They won't accept this. The land there, is now Israel again. THERE WILL BE A TEMPLE AGAIN. and this Mosque WILL BE DESTROYED.

A few decades ago, there was an uproar among the Muslims because the Israeli Government began building a tunnel UNDERNEATH this Mosque. Their excuse for doing this, was that congested tourism required a tunnel underground to make pedestrian traffic easier. Why there? Why unde the Mosque? I'll tell you why. Because it was a plot to destroy this Mosque. A construction "accident" would be a great excuse for having to destroy the rest of the Mosque for safety reasons. And since the Mosque would have to be rebuilt anyway, hmm... why don't we just move it OVER HERE for you nice Muslims? We'll give you more area for it, put it in a nice spot for you guys... but we'll put it a little ways away, from this particular spot. Then years later, if it had been accepted or the anger blown over, trust me... construction would have begun on the Temple again. It has ALWAYS been rebuilt, and they have waited hundreds of years for it to happen in the past. We are talking about a religion with THOUSANDS of years of history. They won't revise their long held faith in their scripture, and rebuild the Temple somewhere else.

When you see the old Jewish Rabbis who are moving their heads back and forth along a wall... It is called the Wailing Wall. It is the remnants, all that is left, of their beloved Temple. They are there praying for it's restoration.

When this Mosque is finally removed or destroyed, the Muslims will unite over the outrage, of having their third holiest site demolished and tarnished and being forced to be replaced by a Jewish Temple. This is what would cause many Islamic nations, once again, to unite, and go to war with Israel. When this occurs, Israel will respond. America will have little choice but to come to their defense. Russia will engage on the side of the Muslims. When all the treaties are honored that have been formed from the world's nations over many dozens of years, the world, once again, will find itself at war. But it will be the first time that America and Russia are fighting directly. It will not be pretty. It will not be avoided.

Armageddon is not merely the name of a battle. But the name of the place where this battle is waged. It is there in the Middle East. When Napolean visited this area in 1800, he excalimed that it was a perfect place for a battle of such magnitude. He is not the only military leader to have said this.

All the world's armies are not going to commune on one piece of real estate. But it is where the trouble starts. It will be the center, the origin, of what will ultimately become a world conflict.

Everyone will undestand that this war is ultimately a religious war, because it's roots are a conflict between two ancient enemies. Israel and Islam.

But in conjuction with this war, the Bible also prophecies that there will be natural disasters, the degree of which, man has never witnessed before. Earthquakes, diseases, famine, a meteor strike as well.

Is anyone aware, that in 2012 there will be a unique alignement of the planets with the center of the galaxy. This anomaly only occurs every 26,000 years. Some scientists actually believe it could affect the planets magnetic field to such a degree that it would actually shift or reverse the poles. So that a compass would point South rather than North. Those who believe this is a possiblity are unsure what it could mean to the planet, but expect major natural disasters as a result.

There is a black hole in the center of the Galaxy. As everyone knows, the gravitational power of a black hole is so consuming that not even light can escape it's pull. When these planets align with that, who knows how it will affect life on Earth.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:50 pm
by fisherman bob
sanshouheil wrote:You may well be correct Bob. But if I were in control of the troops in Afganistan it be over already. War crime? War is a crime against humanity and GOD. If you MUST, then there are NO RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BUT ONE.
KILL THEM ALL WHERE THEY ARE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
Why risk lives of a thousand of troops to take a enemy held village you can destroy with one cruse missle? You will save more "non combatants" lives by just getting it over with.
The answer is that "sustained" police action type of engagements pump trillions more dollars into the coffers of world bank, whom are financing both sides, and have since WW I .
Thats why it will never end while man kind is in control.
Kill WHO by any means necessary? And WHERE do we kill them? There are a BILLION Muslims who are spread ALL OVER the world. We think we are killing a large percentage of them in Iraq and Afghanistan. WRONG. They are EVERYWHERE. The Israelis have spies EVERYWHERE and hunt the enemy EVERYWHERE,one at a time. We need to follow the Israeli example and search globally and take them out one at a time. Blowing up one village or many villages for that matter doesn't do squat against the enemy we face. We need to remove one terrorist brain at a time, and keep removing one terrorist brain at a time until the day comes when the enemy gets to the NEGOTIATING TABLE. Remember this is unending war on a global scale. They are everywhere, even here in the United States. It's just a matter of time before a major terror attack hits our soil again. It's coming soon, perhaps unfortunately to a city near you. The old methods of war DO NOT WORK IN THIS WAR. Look at the size of the enemy's territory and the numbers of the enemy and the way they fight. No, this isn't like war in the good old days. This is 100% unconventional war. GET USED TO IT. Figure out what you can do to help. Plant a victory garden. Use less gas. SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS. THEY HAVE NEVER NEEDED OUR SUPPORT MORE THAN TODAY. THIS IS THE TOUGHEST ENEMY WE HAVE EVER FACED. THIS IS THE MOST DETERMINED ENEMY WE HAVE EVER FACED. Think about what you can do to help...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:01 pm
by Rev Mike
This brought a tear to my eye. It does renew faith in the people of this country.

this is truly a hero's welcome home.

We should do this for all our soldiers, living and dead.