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Im talking about of course, like major, minor, diminished, suspended, etc.
Heres the info behind it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_scale

What sounds best to me is diminished. Idk why, but most my songs are even writen in this format. I like 7ths as well.

AirViking wrote:Im talking about of course, like major, minor, diminished, suspended, etc.
Heres the info behind it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_scale

What sounds best to me is diminished. Idk why, but most my songs are even writen in this format. I like 7ths as well.

I never met a scale that I didin't like. I save diminished and/or chromatic patterns as enhancements usually. I love the sound of minor or dorian patterns and find that ending them with a major 1 chord is, well, heavenly.

Oh great , a young bass player that knows more about modal intepretation than most musicians will in a lifetime. I'm still trying to find a bass player that knows 1 4 5.
Did you find my F22 yet?

GONGHEAD wrote:Oh great , a young bass player that knows more about modal intepretation than most musicians will in a lifetime. I'm still trying to find a bass player that knows 1 4 5.
Did you find my F22 yet?

hahaha and all i took was 1 course of music theroy.

And the f22 is a piecer, the project was nearly scraped if you havent read. They are still buying some just to replace our f15 fleet, but the f35 is more promising.

If all you think about is scales when improvising.... you're just gonna sound like a boring technical nudnik! Scales and scale exercises should just be used for personal practicing and just knowing your way around the fretboard.... I know quite a few awesome guitarists that can run rings around me when it comes to scales but they sound like freakin' robots... You gotta feel the piece... close your eyes and go beyond the scale and pentatonic mind-set!

This is going to sound really goofy, but if you think about it you have 12 notes to play with, generally 8 of these notes are in key so you have a 75% chance of being in key whereever you put your fingers. If it sounds a little out move up a fret or down. I kind of adopted this approach years ago and I think it freed my mind up to just play the stupid guitar.

I spent hours at one point in my life playing scales and memorizing them, picturing patterns on the neck. When I just forgot all that and started using my ears I found I had no limitations to what I could play.

The best soloist on guitar I hear, think vocally. Singers breath when they sing lines, if you are playing a big solo remember to breath like a singer. The more vocal you can be with your solo delivery the more attention you will get. Im like Crip, I know guys that just can play scales and know all the names and they just blow me away. But a lot of these guys are boring when you put them in a real blood and guts band situation.

Feel the music and make the guitar sing!

I will add for you aspiring guitarist. Find some sort of backing tracks to play with, learn to solo ahead and behind the beat. learn where the notes sound good on turnarounds that sort of thing. Playing scales for hours will make you very dull, if you can play with other musicians thats even better.

I have been getting into and using the Locrain Mode (Half Diminished) frequently. The solo and melody for the track on my profile "7 String Instrumental" was written in B Locrian. Very heavy and Dark sounding.

Santos, I like your tone on that track. Once you started soloing Satch Crystal Planet came to mind for some reason. He must have a song in that mode that I remember from that album cause I wore that thing out for a while.

Anyone reading this check out Santos, hes got a handle on what Im talking about. Technically hes interesting and injects an emotional vocal quaility to the track.

jw123 wrote:Santos, I like your tone on that track. Once you started soloing Satch Crystal Planet came to mind for some reason. He must have a song in that mode that I remember from that album cause I wore that thing out for a while.

Anyone reading this check out Santos, hes got a handle on what Im talking about. Technically hes interesting and injects an emotional vocal quaility to the track.

Thanks a lot jw123 for listening. I do listen to Joe Satriani and he is a big influence on my playing. I think the song from Crystal Planet called "Up in the Sky" has the Locrian and Lydian modes. The most important thing Ive learned as a guitarist is that melody is about the delivery of notes not quantity. This is why I respect blues guitarists because of their ability to project a musical expression with economy.

without checking out the link or really thinking much about the question, my favorite scale/progression is the dominant phrygian scale, and I even prefer it in the Key of A. I rarely ever use it, and can't find a use in the band for it lol, but I am fascinated by the phrygian scales, and the dominant scales combined are really bizarre.

Oh well, I also Like the simple pentatonic, which I use the most in the band

jsantos wrote: I do listen to Joe Satriani and he is a big influence on my playing...

I know I know, if you have nothing good to say, don't... but I really don't like Joe Satriani's tone or style. There, I said it. Sorry, couldn't help myself But for the record, I do like your stuff, and your tone JSantos

I wish I could be as good as Satriani - then I'd pick better notes to play

I feel much better now, thanks for listening

Chris check out ChickenFoot, they just sound like they are having fun.

I dont listen to Satch every day but sometimes I get into that stuff.

Crip2Nite wrote:If all you think about is scales when improvising.... you're just gonna sound like a boring technical nudnik!

Actually, you are not thinking of the scale. You are thinking in the key of that scale. Improvisation is the time for composing off the cuff. Knowing your scales put the keys at your fingertips. Scales work only if they are used as on occasional lick and not the entire composed piece. Scales don't need to be used at all.

I like the big wide scales. They are so much easier to get off the fish without flipping one in your eye.

OH, MUSIC, I like the one I can keep in the right key.

So much fun to be a newbe and a smartass!!

Our Bassest keeps telling me, just forget all that mess and play your guitar.