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Curious to hear what ppl have to say about their country's Justice System?

In Canada, it's one area where we are very weak. I just received the News that a very violent rapist has been released in my small city of Saint John. The creep only served 5 years for raping a few women and he even admitted of victimizing 100 women since he was 18 (now 32 years old).

What pisses me off the most about Canada, is how the criminals are so protected by the right activists and how we discipline them lightly. The average sentence for a rapist, in Canada, is 2 f**k years....that's extremely pathetic!

We don't even have a 3 strikes rule, like the US do. So, a criminal can literally make a living out of being a criminal, and still be free most of his life.....

It's too bad the rapist doesn't live in Saudia Arabia, he'd be singing in a higher key right now...

Curious to hear what ppl have to say about their country's Justice System?

In Canada, it's one area where we are very weak. I just received the News that a very violent rapist has been released in my small city of Saint John. The creep only served 5 years for raping a few women and he even admitted of victimizing 100 women since he was 18 (now 32 years old).

What pisses me off the most about Canada, is how the criminals are so protected by the right activists and how we discipline them lightly. The average sentence for a rapist, in Canada, is 2 f**k years....that's extremely pathetic!

We don't even have a 3 strikes rule, like the US do. So, a criminal can literally make a living out of being a criminal, and still be free most of his life.....

Ouch. Crazy.

The U.S. is softening up in general. Animals are gaining legal ground in protection laws, and humans are losing ground. Kind of odd situation. A lot if it is driven by activists, similar to your situation. I think we're just not caught up to where you're at yet.

Chris

If that's true though I've seen nought of it, or anything like it near me and although its incredibly early I may crack a beer!

The U.S. is softening up in general. Animals are gaining legal ground in protection laws, and humans are losing ground. Chris

It's too bad the rapist doesn't live in Saudia Arabia, he'd be singing in a higher key right now...

LOL! But, most often there, the women who get raped are accused of provoking the attack. And, often, it's the women who pay the price by being shamed by her husband and the community (for being victimized???).

It's one twisted country, I tell ya! It's also a dry country....I wouldn't last a week there, I love to much my Friday night 6 pack, it's my reward

Dave, down here in Texas the average sentence for a rapist is 15 to 20 years. One in particular molested my daughter got 35 years. It is mandatory here in the state of Texas they serve half their sentence. There is also a prefered sentence here for capitol offense of the death penalty and actually we are the death penalty capitol. You do the crime down here and your going to do the time. We believe here in Texas that the victim has rights also. Texas is a very conservative state and the second ammendment right is very coveted here. Oh and down here in Texas prisons there are a lot of Big Bubba's that love to make child molester's if they don't kill them first, sing Soprano LOL!

You know, many Canadians will not approve of what I'm about to say, but I always envied the way Texas deals with the criminals. I'm all for Capital Punishment!!! We are 6.8 billions in this planet. We are over populated and it’s creating all kinds of problems, at different scales. So, I won’t shred one tear if we can eliminate the bad seeds.

After reading lots of stats on recidivism, in Canada, I’ve came to the conclusion that most serious offenders (rapist, child molesters, serial killers, etc), will always be serious offenders, so why keep them around and having our tax money to pay for their comfort in prison?

Real shame of it is Dave it cost us more to exicute these freakin scum bags than to keep em in prison for life.
The injustice system is hampered by two things the way I see it.
1 There is too much profit / corruption involved, damned lawyers, and others feasting on the tax dollar.
2 Those afformentiond activists. Also in the cash loop with the Lawyers for tax dollars.
Some people think that there is no deterent factor involved in Capital punishment. But those folk have lost sight of the reality of the situation.
The victims rights should be the only consideration at the point of conviction. Segrigation of violent vs non violent convictions.
True no system is perfect, but keeping them in prison only glorifies them and strengthens gang affilitations.
One man, one cell. Work to eat or starve.
Riot breaks out in the prison yard, shoot every man not laying on the ground with his hands behind his head. No more riots.
And for the love of God stop arresting people for smoking a little pot, damn how stupid.

Real shame of it is Dave it cost us more to exicute these freakin scum bags than to keep em in prison for life.

Very, very true! But, it's all because of the bureaucracy; which to me, is unnecessary! My wife's from Beijing and there, in China, they don't waste time with bureaucracy. If you are found guilty of a crime that's punishable by death, then the next day you'll have a bullet going through your brain. On the top of that, China used to send the bill to the family for the bullet and the clean up....I'm NOT kidding!!!

Now, I agree that China has a much lower tolerance policy and I'm sure they've executed their share of innocent ppl and ppl who only committed pity crimes...something that I don't stand for.....but, that's communism...!

Sans, you are correct,

But don't forget about the other side of the coin, the corruption is far deeper than that.

The prison industrial complex, as some call it. Who owns most prisons today? Well as I understand it, it's two corporations, one called Wackenhut and the other escapes my memory at the moment, but think about it-

Stockbrokers/ceo's are running our prisons.

Prisoners are now units of measurement, and profit. Each prisoner and each day that they are imprisoned are equal to X amount of dollars in profits.

Who do you think pays for the "mandatory minimum" lobbyists? Who do you think is not only encouraging the war on drugs, but nearly insanely long sentences for simple drug use violations. Why do you think so many parole violations now exist? Everything, and really... everything is about profits, and who is paying these profits? We are. The taxpayers. again.

It's sickening. A friend of mine, she's 18 years old, got a YEAR mandatory for possession of ONE POT LEAF, not even enough to pack into a bowl and get a buzz off of... She was a first time offender, and a fairly nice person.

So her life is ruined for something I dare to say MOST of us have done, and many even caught doing before it became such a horrendous crime.

So what have we accomplished in the last 20 years? Doubling the % of citizens that are incarcerated. And that was a 2003 statistic. It's even worse now but I'm too depressed to look it up.

We've become a police state, and don't even know it yet. Fascism already runs this country, but we just don't realize it.

Yeah, the privitization of the prison system is one of the worst decisions we've made in this country. If it were back to the gov't running things, they'd almost HAVE to decriminalize many things, but as long as there are profits to be made, ppl will continue to needlessly suffer for acts that are harmless.

Funny thing is, the ppl that commit the worst acts, against the innumerable masses of ppl, go to fed prisons & are treated like royalty.

GRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr!

There is NO WAY a golf course belongs in a prison. One day we might admit that...

If that's true though I've seen nought of it, or anything like it near me and although its incredibly early I may crack a beer!

The U.S. is softening up in general. Animals are gaining legal ground in protection laws, and humans are losing ground. Chris

I'll report a lesser spotted grub worm under your porch and you'll have to crack that beer at your neighbor's house while they humanely remove you from it's property

Chris, they actually stopped construction on a bypass around here cuzza a bug of some sort. I forget what it was, but it held up progress for 6 months until they could ascertain what the environmental impact on the lil critter was.

Meanwhile, most of the roads have ditches running straight into the creeks & rivers, & our ground water is drying up...duh! They've removed nearly all the swampy areas, & have destroyed most of the little creeks with roads & house farms (new neighborhoods).

A new development went in around the corner from my house two years ago. That's the same time my water started drying up in my well. Of course there's naught I can do but drill a new one when they waste it, with no help from the ppl that caused this.

I'm getting ready to do some eco-terrorism, I tell ya! We have no impact fees here for new developments, & when things go wrong for ppl who've lived here all their lives, there is no one to turn to for help or reparations.

Some a-hole built a huge house nearby. He put in a HUGE pond, & dug 2 (yes - TWO!) wells to fill it, after he discovered that the liner wasn't holding up. The house across the street, which is over 100 yrs old, & has a family history, lost their well. Eh...so what? No reparations were made.

Personally, I think this SUX!

*snip* Personally, I think this SUX!

Yeah. Sadly, it's turned on its head. You heard of the drouth in California right? Hetch Hetchy has a fish (that's not even domestic... it's an illegal alien fish) that gets caught in the water pump. Due to this, much of the water has been re-routed. Farm lands with trees are going w/o water, and water prices are going up. It's virtually a man-made drouth, and the policies set in place to protect fish are having a very huge impact on California's crops - trees that took decades to grow are at risk. I think much of it classifies as insanity... but what can you do?

I used to debate politics in forums, but got fed up with it because the people who troll those kinds of forums aren't there to be converted, they're there to convert so you get two hard-heads clunking together with no real pursuit of truth, just an ego driven trashing of one another trying to look as intellectual as possible.

So I play guitar now... I'm trying to learn Blues so I can complain in a creative way! Then when I get really really mad, I'm thinking of some thrash metal, or maybe some death metal if I get depressed. I don't think I have an emotion that matches polka, so that wouldn't figure into the picture

Chris

I always get a laugh when they talk about drought in California.
It's a freakin desert, and has been for hundreds of thousands of years.

As far as the poor pot smokers. Hell if it werent for my Nursing license and my love of firearms, I'd still burn one on occasion.
Just not worth the risk.
But to be honest I think they aught to shoot crack and meth dealers right on the street corner. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms.
And at the end of the high speed chase, when the guy crashes the car gets out and runs. BANG 12 gauge buckshot. Drop his ass and let em f'n rot where they land.
Wont take two months, when the red n blue lights flash. They will
stop.