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Zimmerman was in a CAR, you twits. He was fat, languid and bored with nothing to do. So he figures he's going to patrol, right? Wrong, get the f**k out of there. He had no business being there unless he was looking for trouble.

The kid was up to no good for sure, but he didn't have to die for it.

Zimmerman is connected to the police or that judge, right?
Which is it now? Who does he know? That was the clearest manslaughter 3 I ever saw and they covered up very well.
If you think he wasn't fully coached on what to say to whom, you are naive.

And Travyon had no gun. That's a big deal right there. If he did, he probably would have shot ole fat boy dead.

If you are going to pack heat, you better be smart enough to know when to hold em and when to fold em. I know I'd be in jail if that was me, my family has no judges or lawyers. I'd be doing some real time.

A .357 no less, if what I read is correct.
A 9mm would have been ample, a .357 magnum is a tale from a bad Clint Eastwood movie. Ever see a .357 hit on a limb? WOW, it's a crippler.
No more pushups or dancing, just tons of rehab to strengthen the musculature and skeletal system of the affected area(s).

YOU know what it means if I get out of the car with a piece?
I will shoot you first and ask questions later. Zimmerman should in no way have been carrying a piece. I guess he doesn't like stun guns or non-lethal weaponry.
I wonder if he hadn't been carrying, would have have even got out of the car? I doubt it. Plenty of cowards grow a set when you pass out the small arms.

No one hired fat, well-connected Zimmerman, he's a volunteer as well, right? Well thank god for Fatman and Bobbin'. His girlfriend doesn't strike me as credible either.

And I don't care how many burglaries there were.
You kill a child, you will burn in hell for your sacrilege.
I guess he never heard of shoot to wound. When you drop a round in someone's arm or leg, that's generally pretty much it unless it's a grazing hit. You don't just shrug it off.

The last time we had problems with Florida was during that election that was claimed to be fixed, remember? Absentee ballots ring a bell>?

Florida is just like the rest of the USA; if you are rich, you're ok.
If you are connected, you're ok. If you are a lawyer or a judge, you're ok. If you are innocent or get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, you are in some serious trouble.

But that's ok, the 1st time you take a life is an experience you never forget and it never leaves you alone. I expect he'll take that to the grave and if you think it will be a pleasant memory, you better think again.

The nightmares will tear you up, regardless of how much of a sociopath you might be.

I'll blame Z. No gun = no dead kid. If Zimmerqueef had any martial arts training, Trayvon might be all busted up but still in reasonable shape to do a little time for burglary et cetera.

Yod don't tell me what I'd do. I wouldn't have gotten out of the car.
If he got saucy at that point I would have run him down like a dog in the road or I like a good baton personally, but I only meet deadly force with deadly force.

That kid was a joke and only a fat old man would stoop to shooting him.
Or a paranoid pack of pansies that think a Smith and Wesson beats 4 aces.

That bouncing ball is done. The perp is dead. Best way to silence a witness is to make sure there aren't any living ones in your vicinity.

Don't get out of the car if you aren't up to the job at hand.

Zimmerman was only up to pulling the trigger, he sure couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

Trayvon was surely a perp but someone sent him a bare knuckle invitation to a gunfight.

Who here is dumb enough to show up to that party? (silence)
I can be dumb as a stone, but never THAT dumb. It would interfere with my preference for breathing and trying to avoid coming down with a bad case of DEAD.

Trayvon had all the traits of a coward, and he bragged about beating people on his web page. At the time Zimmerman was NOT a fat guy, he gained the weight after the incident. Zimmerman had every right to question Trayvons presence there. And they did find a slim jim where Trayvon was previously. But maybe he needed it to open his skittles.

It was a simple assault by a stupid kid headed down the wrong path in life. Most likely he would have ended up getting killed himself or killing someone else later. Obviously he believed that beating people was cool. He thought showing his pistol was cool, he thought drugs were cool. All that from what he tweeted and was openly posted on line. He told his girlfriend that he was going to "beat" Zimmerman while on the phone to her. She said as much in a TV interview. He did not call the cops. He was going to take care of this so called homosexual, as he described Zimmerman to his girlfriend while he was on the phone. All these things were exposed in an interview on TV through testimony of the girlfriend that he was talking to on the phone at the time.

Anyone who thinks that Zimmerman didn't have the right to get out of his vehicle is ignorant of the freedom we have in America. If I spot someone lurking near a house in a neighborhood that is crime ridden I have every right to get out of my house and ask what they are doing there. I would even go so far as to call it a civil responsibility.

Some of you need to get over the little kid crap. Little kids kill other little kids every day. Little kids commit mass murder on other little kids, little kids rape, steal, murder and commit various other crimes daily. They simply do not fit the political agenda of race dividing, restricting the 2nd amendment, and all the other perverted goals of politicians. After all, if the great race divider did not bring it to national attention for his political agenda, we may not have heard a thing about it at all. It would be just another killing such as there are in Chicago or DC that NEVER see the light of day.

People who are all wrapped up in this campaign engineered by crooked truly are blinded by the baby pics and media spew. All the back seat lawyers defending a thug have lost their way. Zimmerman was found not guilty by a court whose judge was clearly biased towards the prosecution. The had most of the facts, far more than you back seat lawyers have. Some of you speak as if you were in the courtroom examining the evidence. You aren't and weren't. Justice has prevailed despite the ongoing political persecution of Zimmerman for the last year.

So what else is happening while you Trayvon advocates are consumed with this case that is already over? Benghazi? Amnesty reform? Illegal modifications to the health care bill? How about Fast and Furious? How about people letting drug smugglers go at the boarder? How about a million things going on behind our backs that are stealing our rights by those who we elected to protect our rights?

Every time this regime gets caught with their pants down in some crooked scheme against Americans, something like this trumped up crap appears to steal the spotlight from the real criminals iof our society, the politicians.

Look it up. A 357 is roughly the same as a 9mm. So if you carry a pistol of YOUR CHOICE that makes you have criminal tenancies? How utterly ridiculous is that assumption?

In my security days many times different idiots told me to lose my gun, and fight them 'fair.' I always laughed. I'm nobody's punching bag and some miscreant assaults me I'm going to light them up. If they survive I arrest them.

they always seemed to believe me for some reason and back away.

If Zim could have gotten his gun out BEFORE being blindsided by St. Travyon he might have joined the other 2 million Americans who yearly stop violent attackers without firing a shot.

Scott - I don't know where you are getting your data but it sure as hell isn't from the testimony revealed at the trial. Here's the big news - you assault someone and say 'you are going to die tonight' (heard by witnesses) then you are going to get capped. That's exactly as it should be.

Talbot

Those who hate Z are being manipulated, played like a violin. Their own hatred, anger, and envy is the handle used to turn them. Strong delusion has blinded them to seeing or hearing the truth. It simply doesn't matter when someone wants blood. They are convinced they are victims and are now being turned into perpetrators by the neo-fascists of the current administration.

I wish everyone could remember the lessons of Lithuania



http://www.iarex.ru/books/book76.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Ctcwu6X5pA

The video above is the protest on a Houston Highway and a lady trying to get thru as she rushes her daughter to the hospital. The protestors attempt to attack her!

http://m.click2houston.com/news/questio ... index.html

Above is the news article with the woman in the attack!

They both f**k up but only 1 is dead.

If you never shot a .357, I suggest you shut the f**k up.

A .357 magnum is in no way even remotely close to a 9mm. You're thinking of a .38, gun newb. Not even remotely similar.

Travyon prolly was in the wrong, but if you dropped a nuke on him would that be okay>?

Zimmerfuck is connected as well. No one seems to want to talk about his connections to the court system.

Did daddy or mommy pay for his lawyers and coaching before court?

Trayvon seems like a criminal to me, but fact remains he would not be dead if fatty hadn't been sporting a firearm.

Too bad they both didn't have guns, that certainly would have been more fair. Maybe Z's girlfriend would have drew from the car and shot him then, hmm? Dry gulch action.. lol

Guns are for weaklings who can't get it done any other way than that.

What happened to firing a warning shot in the air?
I had to do that once with a cap gun and people were on the ground thinking they were going to get shot. The cops were plenty pissed as well.
I thought for sure that was going to be a JAIL experience in retrospect.

I wonder who will do this next now that fat f**k got off?

If they aren't connected, we'll be seeing them in prison.
Not at the country club like Zippy do dah.

Gee if you shot a gun in the air near you, would you going to jail tonight? I know we all do here for even a bb gun..NJ very inhospitable in respect to guns in general.

Maybe Florida is one of those wild states where all kinds of wild sh*t goes on?
Good for crazies, bad for tourists? Bad for kids. Bad for anyone with no advocate vs the rest of the cretins, right? Bad for the poor. Bad for the unknown. Bad for the unfairly represented. Bad for the non-gun toting squad, right?

Granted that kid was scum by all credible reports, but does it make it any better to kill him>?

If that's the case, why don't we just kill all the criminals? lol
Shoot em all!!!!!!

Why not? He killed one, can't we just shoot them all like dogs in the street? Who needs a trial, just shoot em.

This has all happened before. Suspicious teen vs gun carrying concerned adult. Teen is killed and shooter is acquitted on self defense grounds.

Three big differences:

*White 16 yr old victim.
*Black concerned adult shooter.
*Zero social outrage.

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_st ... ot-guilty/

Where was Al Sharpton and Jesse on this one? I think I'll go loot a few stores and assault a few tourists in Hollywood in honor of this poor forgotten teen victim who didn't have the right stuff to create proper media frenzy and cause people to abandon all sense of reason.

They both f**k up but only 1 is dead.

If you never shot a .357, I suggest you shut the f**k up.

A .357 magnum is in no way even remotely close to a 9mm. You're thinking of a .38, gun newb. Not even remotely similar.

Travyon prolly was in the wrong, but if you dropped a nuke on him would that be okay>?

Zimmerfuck is connected as well. No one seems to want to talk about his connections to the court system.

Did daddy or mommy pay for his lawyers and coaching before court?

Trayvon seems like a criminal to me, but fact remains he would not be dead if fatty hadn't been sporting a firearm.

Too bad they both didn't have guns, that certainly would have been more fair. Maybe Z's girlfriend would have drew from the car and shot him then, hmm? Dry gulch action.. lol

Guns are for weaklings who can't get it done any other way than that.

What happened to firing a warning shot in the air?
I had to do that once with a cap gun and people were on the ground thinking they were going to get shot. The cops were plenty pissed as well.
I thought for sure that was going to be a JAIL experience in retrospect.

I wonder who will do this next now that fat f**k got off?

If they aren't connected, we'll be seeing them in prison.
Not at the country club like Zippy do dah.

Gee if you shot a gun in the air near you, would you going to jail tonight? I know we all do here for even a bb gun..NJ very inhospitable in respect to guns in general.

Maybe Florida is one of those wild states where all kinds of wild sh*t goes on?
Good for crazies, bad for tourists? Bad for kids. Bad for anyone with no advocate vs the rest of the cretins, right? Bad for the poor. Bad for the unknown. Bad for the unfairly represented. Bad for the non-gun toting squad, right?

Granted that kid was scum by all credible reports, but does it make it any better to kill him>?

If that's the case, why don't we just kill all the criminals? lol
Shoot em all!!!!!!

Why not? He killed one, can't we just shoot them all like dogs in the street? Who needs a trial, just shoot em.

Get over it.

Just because the trial didn't go your way doesn't mean justice wasn't served. The diameter of a .38 special bullet is 0.358 inch, which is 9.09 mm. At close range I doubt that a 9mm would make you any less dead following the same trajectory. Get a clue.

Dirty Harry supposedly used a 44 in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force. But that is refuted by Myth Busters saying it was actually a 41 magnum.

Considering the path Trayvon was headed down, Zimmerman may have kept someone else from being killed along the line. He was a wanna be gangsta and he made that more than obvious to anyone reading his blog.

I guess that if you own a 44 magnum or a 50 cal you are really out to kill everyone you see ? It was self defense said a jury of his peers. And that in spite of a judge that was biased and showed it at every opportunity.

As I slog through the videos, I haven't heard or seen anything yet that tells me that Z wasn't ultimately responsible for a death.
Could he have done some future people a favor? Maybe.

I know it's officially in the books, but to me, it's still clear that it was Man-3.
I might change that view as I go deeper into trial videos, but so far, nope.

Why do I care so much??

1) It maddens me to be told what I see, what I hear, and what I've learned, isn't what I see or hear or have learned.

2) I hate rent-a-cops and good 'ol boys clubs.

*snip*...
No need to be inflammatory again.

lol Slacker you don't really know, do you?
Don't take my word for it, ask another gun enthusiast.
I bet George or Mike Talbot know all too well, ask them. They'll let you know for real.

Maybe a .357 wad cutter is similar to a 9mm, size wise but it's a completely different round otherwise.

Care to tell me how many grains go into a .357 magnum compared to a .38 round? I'm telling you with absolute surety that it's a HUGE round.

People that hand load a little and shoot fairly often know in a milisec the difference. Ask a cop. Our troops here are restricted to .40's.
They won't even let them carry a .357, jug head..

Find someone you trust and then ask them.

It's like comparing a .270 to a .22. Only a guy that doesn't shoot doesn't know the diff. I'm sure you'll figure it out.

I would have been much happier if the cops shot his ass dead.
Then you have someone who is qualified to take the blame.
Zimmerman was looking for adventure and he almost got more than he wanted.

The whole idea is that no one needed to die here.
That the only point you need to see.

It would have been Manslaughter 3 if it were you or I.
Zimmerman knows someone. Most of the rest of us do not.

I never thought that people could get away with killing someone.
Now I know they can...

Scott not everyone gets away with killing someone... some don't even get away with firing a warning shot!

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-trial-t ... 58230.html

How F'ing absurd...



Interesting article here...

Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism

http://news.yahoo.com/black-americas-re ... 00529.html

Scot

I know the difference in ballistics between the two. In fact one of the NRA magazines had ballistic tests of various 9mm sized rounds. I just think your whole premise that Zimmerman should have carried a 9mm instead was a bit outrageous.

By the way, you didn't answer my question. Following the same trajectory that the projectile took, would Trayvon be just as dead or less dead if he were shot with a 9mm as opposed to a .357 ?

You implied that Z was looking for trouble because of the pistol caliber that he carried. There is a movie staring Robert Duval as a hit man. He used a NAA 22LR / 22 Mag pistol that can be concealed in the palm of your hand. My daughter has one. It is one of the smallest pistols commercially made. If a 22 from that followed the same trajectory I would imaging T would be just as dead. So was Z supposed to carry something like that? Would that have made him less guilty in your reasoning?

I do not think that the preference in what you carry has any bearing on your decision to use deadly force when attacked if you feel your life is in danger.

This morning there was a report on the news where a kid was hit in the head with a baseball and died. I assume that a baseball is a bit softer than concrete. The point being that Z was in danger of loosing his life. That is why no one pressed charges until the führer made this a racial issue with his instigating remark about his kid would look just like T. Then he had his attack dogs make the rounds promoting the racial aspect. Were it not for that, this would have been a local story buried in the back of the news.

The führer was hoping for a real white man with a legal carry to kill someone in an incident such as thi one. Therefore Z was never referred to as a Mexican, which he himself claims to be, in all those national news stories and updates. Since he couldn't have a real white guy to push his gun confiscation agenda, he deemed Z to be the effigy of the white man with a gun that he so desperately desired for his anti constitutional goal.

On that very same day, seven black kids were murdered through gun violence. Oh? No one heard about that. on the mainstream spews.

Scot

I know the difference in ballistics between the two. In fact one of the NRA magazines had ballistic tests of various 9mm sized rounds. I just think your whole premise that Zimmerman should have carried a 9mm instead was a bit outrageous.

By the way, you didn't answer my question. Following the same trajectory that the projectile took, would Trayvon be just as dead or less dead if he were shot with a 9mm as opposed to a .357 ?

You implied that Z was looking for trouble because of the pistol caliber that he carried. There is a movie staring Robert Duval as a hit man. He used a NAA 22LR / 22 Mag pistol that can be concealed in the palm of your hand. My daughter has one. It is one of the smallest pistols commercially made. If a 22 from that followed the same trajectory I would imaging T would be just as dead. So was Z supposed to carry something like that? Would that have made him less guilty in your reasoning?

I do not think that the preference in what you carry has any bearing on your decision to use deadly force when attacked if you feel your life is in danger.

This morning there was a report on the news where a kid was hit in the head with a baseball and died. I assume that a baseball is a bit softer than concrete. The point being that Z was in danger of loosing his life. That is why no one pressed charges until the führer made this a racial issue with his instigating remark about his kid would look just like T. Then he had his attack dogs make the rounds promoting the racial aspect. Were it not for that, this would have been a local story buried in the back of the news.

The führer was hoping for a real white man with a legal carry to kill someone in an incident such as thi one. Therefore Z was never referred to as a Mexican, which he himself claims to be, in all those national news stories and updates. Since he couldn't have a real white guy to push his gun confiscation agenda, he deemed Z to be the effigy of the white man with a gun that he so desperately desired for his anti constitutional goal.

On that very same day, seven black kids were murdered through gun violence. Oh? No one heard about that. on the mainstream spews.

+1..

Zimmerman was in a CAR, you twits. He was fat, languid and bored with nothing to do. So he figures he's going to patrol, right? Wrong, get the f**k out of there. He had no business being there unless he was looking for trouble.

The kid was up to no good for sure, but he didn't have to die for it.

Zimmerman is connected to the police or that judge, right?
Which is it now? Who does he know? That was the clearest manslaughter 3 I ever saw and they covered up very well.
If you think he wasn't fully coached on what to say to whom, you are naive.

And Travyon had no gun. That's a big deal right there. If he did, he probably would have shot ole fat boy dead.

If you are going to pack heat, you better be smart enough to know when to hold em and when to fold em. I know I'd be in jail if that was me, my family has no judges or lawyers. I'd be doing some real time.

A .357 no less, if what I read is correct.
A 9mm would have been ample, a .357 magnum is a tale from a bad Clint Eastwood movie. Ever see a .357 hit on a limb? WOW, it's a crippler.
No more pushups or dancing, just tons of rehab to strengthen the musculature and skeletal system of the affected area(s).

YOU know what it means if I get out of the car with a piece?
I will shoot you first and ask questions later. Zimmerman should in no way have been carrying a piece. I guess he doesn't like stun guns or non-lethal weaponry.
I wonder if he hadn't been carrying, would have have even got out of the car? I doubt it. Plenty of cowards grow a set when you pass out the small arms.

No one hired fat, well-connected Zimmerman, he's a volunteer as well, right? Well thank god for Fatman and Bobbin'. His girlfriend doesn't strike me as credible either.

And I don't care how many burglaries there were.
You kill a child, you will burn in hell for your sacrilege.
I guess he never heard of shoot to wound. When you drop a round in someone's arm or leg, that's generally pretty much it unless it's a grazing hit. You don't just shrug it off.

The last time we had problems with Florida was during that election that was claimed to be fixed, remember? Absentee ballots ring a bell>?

Florida is just like the rest of the USA; if you are rich, you're ok.
If you are connected, you're ok. If you are a lawyer or a judge, you're ok. If you are innocent or get caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, you are in some serious trouble.

But that's ok, the 1st time you take a life is an experience you never forget and it never leaves you alone. I expect he'll take that to the grave and if you think it will be a pleasant memory, you better think again.

The nightmares will tear you up, regardless of how much of a sociopath you might be.

I'll blame Z. No gun = no dead kid. If Zimmerqueef had any martial arts training, Trayvon might be all busted up but still in reasonable shape to do a little time for burglary et cetera.

Yod don't tell me what I'd do. I wouldn't have gotten out of the car.
If he got saucy at that point I would have run him down like a dog in the road or I like a good baton personally, but I only meet deadly force with deadly force.

That kid was a joke and only a fat old man would stoop to shooting him.
Or a paranoid pack of pansies that think a Smith and Wesson beats 4 aces.

That bouncing ball is done. The perp is dead. Best way to silence a witness is to make sure there aren't any living ones in your vicinity.

Don't get out of the car if you aren't up to the job at hand.

Zimmerman was only up to pulling the trigger, he sure couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

Trayvon was surely a perp but someone sent him a bare knuckle invitation to a gunfight.

Who here is dumb enough to show up to that party? (silence)
I can be dumb as a stone, but never THAT dumb. It would interfere with my preference for breathing and trying to avoid coming down with a bad case of DEAD.

I do not see an ounce of fat on Zimmy? it's all muscle from working out! LOL!