General Music Chat

I mostly jam with coolcam and another guy from boston who kicks serious butt. For the most part we mostly do vamps since long chord progs like 12bars are harder. I've seen people do it though. Basically if you stick to simple chord progressions that can be contained in whatever interval you have set then it will work. Then it just takes trust. As a friend used to say trust is a must or you will bust. Once someone starts playing and completes an interval or cycle then it usually gels. I've had nightmare nights on NINJAM and other nights have been soo cool I did not want to stop playing but my leg was falling asleep

Wegman, you have classical guitar under your belt?
Whoa, this stuff should be a piece of cake for you, performance wise.
I know what you mean about how anal instructors and upper echelon musicians can be. I like keeping things at 'street level' so to speak. (seeings how thats where im from)
Most of the guys i jam with get lost when you say something like "a 5th above C"...most time you have to point to it.
But it's fun learning this stuff none the less. I don't think i'd be a musician if i had this shoved down my throat as a kid...but thats just me.

I'm nowhere near on a level to pick apart Thelonius Monk's stuff...yet.

Yes Franny I have studied classical guitar on and off for years. The problem is I don't keep up with it. There just isn't really a market for it and I don't get the satisfaction out of playing a classical piece like I do with a Marshall cranked.

It's been a couple years since I seriously studied and I haven't done anything clasical for quite some time. As I stated, for my personality it is just to anal and I get frustrated. THese days I am leaning toward Flamenco music like Rodrigo and Gabriela, or Dimeola or what. Gabriela is an amazing guitarist. I am not saying I can play that stuff but it is what I am most into or try to emulate. I should be alot better all around player then I am but I just don't have the time and I am not a naturally talented guitar player. I have gotten to the level I have through sure determination. Not because it came easy.

That said I am working on a classical piece to put up on my profile so that it is not just me flapping but so people can hear my classical side. I am just so rusty that I can't play the piece without mucking it up right now. The sad thing is I wrote it.

Another thing I never hear anyone talk of is Atonal music. My instructor got me into that when I was studying classical and I was working on pieces by a guy by the name of Leo Brouwer. I would eventually like to some how incorporate Atonal stuff into my stuff and see what comes out. That is a little ways off though.

All I can say is: I can see this is going to take me a long time to learn about. Lol. But I will have to just keep studying it until I completely understand it. Thanks for all the information Wegman, it is really helpful. I am learning a lot from it, just going to take me some time to completely get it deciphered into my brain. *Thumbs up*

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

Yes guitar, a lifetime.

Again there are alot of guys way smarter or better then me with this stuff. I am just trying to provide you information on what little I know.

A lifetime, lol. Great. But it is worth it to me, I love music, and I love the guitar.

Do not worry about not being the smartest of the lot on that subject, remember, even though you may not know a ton, I know nothing about it. So whatever average amount you know is perfect for teaching a beginner like me. Thanks again man.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

I mostly jam with coolcam and another guy from boston who kicks serious butt. For the most part we mostly do vamps since long chord progs like 12bars are harder. I've seen people do it though. Basically if you stick to simple chord progressions that can be contained in whatever interval you have set then it will work. Then it just takes trust. As a friend used to say trust is a must or you will bust. Once someone starts playing and completes an interval or cycle then it usually gels. I've had nightmare nights on NINJAM and other nights have been soo cool I did not want to stop playing but my leg was falling asleep

That's the problem we have. You really can't do anything complex or improvised on the fly because of the lag. I thought maybe you had a super fast server or some other tweak that worked magic.

I love your stuff. Great bass lines, and very tasty guitar work.

I see you mentioned you collab on line. Just ninjam or you open to anything else?

Yea thats sorta why I dont NINJAM that much. A simple prgrasion is a simple progression. Like any jam session good players cna make it come alive and dorks can kill it right quick. With NINJAM the mesuare have to go from your computer to the server and then to everyone. I found another site that solves the problem but you have to pay for it.

Thanks for the props. Mucho appreciated

The funny thing is all of those tunes in my profile are collabs. The people are at http://www.musicianscollaboration.com are super nice and there are a lot of monster players there. The shredding guitar on Three Kings is this guy Dealer form Scotland. Super Sweet. I think you would get along with guy who does the 1st guitar solo on 70's funk. Luis is a big Dimeola fan being from Venezuela and all. Only 70's funk is my tune. The rest I just did the bass lines. If your interested in hearing the full tunes they are at http://www.angmar.com/modules.php?op=mo ... ge=/music/

Check out some of the stuff from my old band Those Fusion Guys. I think you will like Mike's playing. Some of his best playing is on Dragon Breath anbd Tierra Del Fugeo. Theres even some vids.

Anyway yes I'm allways into jaming and collabing. What did you have in mind?

I don't know. Maybe trade some file back and forth and see what happens. Anything. I'm a chameleon. My playing changes with whom ever I play with. On my profile I have alot heavy metal type stuff but then I have some acoustic stuff and some stuff without alot feel and emotion.

Like I said, I just play whatever the rest of guys play like. It makes me a better player.

Your a great bass player. You've got it. I can hear it. I would be interested to see what a collab between the two of us produces.

Here's a bit of what i thought was "fun" information.
There's one note that us Bass players can use for any chord in any key, it's a floating note, it's located anywhere on the fretboard and always works, yet it's always located in the same spot.

Any guess's?

You may know about this already, it about floored me when i saw the answer.

Not a clue.

I suck at music theory, so that question is a riddle in my mind. But if I had to guess, maybe an E? I do not know, lol. However, that does sound familiar, like I have seen that answer somewhere before.

The note is 1/2 step below the note you want...sounds crazy and personally i don't think it always sounds correct...but




Say if you want to go from D to G, a F# or Gb will get you there...no matter whats going on with other instruments.

The reason? this is what got me, i tried to figure it out by playing, listening
my result was wrong as i really couldn't find one.


Lay a Major scale over top of the note you want and it all becomes clear.

My literal brain was trying to figure out how it could be all over the neck but always in the same spot (position) It makes sense now but I was thinking the note could only be played in one spot say like the 5th fret. So I was thinking like bends, alternate tunings etc.

Naturally, as usual I was completely wrong.

Aren't you just augmenting the chord and thus augements lacking a tonality center will enable the transition?

Theoretically that will work but there is the possibility of some major dissonance that may not sound pleasing to the ear.

Well I am a bit perplexed. Lol. But I really need to brush up more on my music theory. Well I tested it the best I would know how to. Do you mind delineating? Maybe give me a stronger example, because for some reason this just is not clicking in my music theory dense brain, lol.