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#81017 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:57 pm
Craig, you don't know a damned thing about me, other than what you see as my "bullying" you. And you had the nerve to tell Ryan to watch his mouth? You, sir, are a hypocrit of the highest order.

Just because I don't wave the flag of my religion doesn't mean that I don't have one, or that I'm not a spiritual person. In fact, I find that those who DO so are usually the con artists, the ones most ppl don't want to be around. You've got a lot of gall, I'll give you that, buster!

No, most conspiracy-minded ppl don't bother me, Craig. They say what they want & move on to other stuff.

You just keep on babbling about the same topics over & over, & wordier & wordier - you STILL couldn't hold to even two screens on your last post. You're a borish man who thinks way too highly of himself, & too little of others. And it's patently obvious that you're either too stupid to see what you do to ppl with your constant haranguing about this & that, or you just don't give a damn about them in spite of whatever you claim.

Whatever, bub...I'm still laughing atcha, cuz you're so laughable.

#81023 by Crip2Nite
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:15 pm
I fukkin hate those terrorist towelheads with their allah this and allah that.. Destroying peoples lives in the name of allah... exterminate everyone of the fukkers! ...and if anyone wants to enter this country, register and pay your fukkin income taxes just like I did since I was 15... Pay your Federal and State and contribute to SS or get the fuk outta my country. Speak my fukkin' language ya morons.... if ya wanna live here ya hafta adapt or get the fuk outta my country! My grandparents had to do it and so do you! If anyone on here don't like my sentiments, I don't give a flying fuk! :twisted:

#81025 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:18 pm
Hey Crip! Tell us how you REALLY feel! LMAO You sure have a way with words!


Rev Mike wrote:
philbymon wrote:I'm sorry, but I must disagree with ya, Rev. Many of these illegals are perfectly willing to live communal lives in tight quarters as they make their ill-earned low wages until they can return home & live like relative kings.

We, however, live HERE, & are trying to get ahead in THIS country. That ain't greed. It's more expensive here. Giving it away to illegals & calling us too greedy &/or lazy just makes all of us that much poorer, while it makes the company's stockholders richer. Should this trend continue, what will be left for us?


Lets think here, if this trend were to stop, and illegals didn't work for the below minimum wage they currently do, and it was left to companies to have to pay american worker wages, the economy would completely collapse. Prices would increase tenfold to pay for what the american workers would require between salary and healthcare...
So I take it that you think all Americans should live like illegal aliens? Should I move a few more families into my 2 BR home to make ends meet so I can compete with the illegals? That's hardly fair, cuz when they make a few thou they can go live like kings for a few years, as I said, back in their own countries.

If I were to move there with a hundred thou or so, they'd do one of two things, or maybe both - steal from me or kill me. But we must be nice to them & let them have anything they want in ours, while they take jobs that make nothing cheaper.

Their lower-cost labor just makes for higher profits, Rev. Profits don't "trickle down," anymore. They give the corporate mind the incentive to find even more ways to make more & spend less, at the cost of the health & well-being of their workers.

#81029 by CraigMaxim
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:30 pm
Phil,

Of course I am proud of my qualities. Personally I am often down on myself too though. God gave me a tremendous amount of gifts all together in one individual, and I feel I haven't done SH*T with them to this point. That I haven't accomplished anything close to what I feel I should have by now. But other times I think about my life's accomplishments and experiences, and I have to admit.. they are not few, and they are not that common.

Not everyone has...

Travelled on the road in a band across the country at 12 years old, for 6 years. Had their original music played on a dozen radio stations. Been interviewed worldwide by major newspapers, radio stations and national television. Met countless celebrities, world leaders, Presidents, Kings and Queens and heads of state. Performed internationally in several countries. Had a book written about me, and been mentioned in a dozen other books.

These are only a few of the experiences I have had. All of which can be found through Google.

Am I supposed to think this is normal for most people?

What have you done?

.
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#81031 by Crip2Nite
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:32 pm
WOT THE FUK DOES THIS HAFTA DO WITH WETBACKS??? :twisted:

#81032 by CraigMaxim
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:36 pm
I have to agree with Crip.

You should ASSIMILATE if you are going to be a part of this nation. It will be a source to destroy us, as this gets out of hand. It will cease to be a nation of "states" and become a nation of "mini countries". What is the cohesive factor, if not language and a common belief in freedom? And yes, all of us paying into the same system.

.

#81033 by Crip2Nite
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:38 pm
BTW... everybody..... I'm not that evil cretin that you see in my posts, I'm just trying to bring the hate on me for once.... Don't like the personal attacks that Im seeing of late...

#81036 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:51 pm
That's funny...awhile back you claimed to have 4 or 5 books written about you...now it's only one, the title of which you haven't shared. How unlike you, Craig!

So you're proud of those God-given qualities, are ya? What did you do to earn them? What have you to be proud of, Craig, when it comes to "God-given" gifts? Oh yes! "Decades of study," was it? HAH! From what I've seen & heard from you, your "decades of study" don't hardly amount to anything more than my occasional amount of perusing. Perhaps I should be proud of that, eh?

I don't need to try to stack myself up against a self-inflatable blowhard, Craig. It's none of your damned business what I've done or what I've earned in my lifetime.

Get some help, Craig.

Sorry, Crip, but as long as this idjit keeps blowing his own horn, I'm gonna keep the echo of reality coming. It's the least I can do for him.

Hey! Look at me! I'm a humanist, now!

:lol:

#81038 by Rev Mike
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:02 pm
philbymon wrote:Hey Crip! Tell us how you REALLY feel! LMAO You sure have a way with words!


Rev Mike wrote:
philbymon wrote:I'm sorry, but I must disagree with ya, Rev. Many of these illegals are perfectly willing to live communal lives in tight quarters as they make their ill-earned low wages until they can return home & live like relative kings.

We, however, live HERE, & are trying to get ahead in THIS country. That ain't greed. It's more expensive here. Giving it away to illegals & calling us too greedy &/or lazy just makes all of us that much poorer, while it makes the company's stockholders richer. Should this trend continue, what will be left for us?


Lets think here, if this trend were to stop, and illegals didn't work for the below minimum wage they currently do, and it was left to companies to have to pay american worker wages, the economy would completely collapse. Prices would increase tenfold to pay for what the american workers would require between salary and healthcare...
So I take it that you think all Americans should live like illegal aliens? Should I move a few more families into my 2 BR home to make ends meet so I can compete with the illegals? That's hardly fair, cuz when they make a few thou they can go live like kings for a few years, as I said, back in their own countries.

If I were to move there with a hundred thou or so, they'd do one of two things, or maybe both - steal from me or kill me. But we must be nice to them & let them have anything they want in ours, while they take jobs that make nothing cheaper.

Their lower-cost labor just makes for higher profits, Rev. Profits don't "trickle down," anymore. They give the corporate mind the incentive to find even more ways to make more & spend less, at the cost of the health & well-being of their workers.


I am not saying we should change anything about the situation, I think we should just continue to do what this country has done for so long, ignore it. It maintains itself, we arrest enough and deport them yearly that it doesn't get overblown, but the ones that every single one of us relies on that are here, should be left alone. If we get rid of them, we will have to live like them because an apple will cost 144.50. They pick the things for an average of a penny an apple, if they were paid minimum wage, the cost would be something around 2.89 per apple. If they are a penny a piece right now and you get about 8 in a bag for 4.00, that is 50 cents an apple retail, a markup of 50 times the cost of picking by the time all the other costs are factored in. 2.89 x 50 = 144.50

I say let it be. The only time people are rowled up about immigration problems is when republicans need to win office.

#81042 by Rev Mike
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:08 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:Phil,

Of course I am proud of my qualities. Personally I am often down on myself too though. God gave me a tremendous amount of gifts all together in one individual, and I feel I haven't done SH*T with them to this point. That I haven't accomplished anything close to what I feel I should have by now. But other times I think about my life's accomplishments and experiences, and I have to admit.. they are not few, and they are not that common.

Not everyone has...

Travelled on the road in a band across the country at 12 years old, for 6 years. Had their original music played on a dozen radio stations. Been interviewed worldwide by major newspapers, radio stations and national television. Met countless celebrities, world leaders, Presidents, Kings and Queens and heads of state. Performed internationally in several countries. Had a book written about me, and been mentioned in a dozen other books.

These are only a few of the experiences I have had. All of which can be found through Google.

Am I supposed to think this is normal for most people?

What have you done?

.


I will have to ask you to point us in the right direction, there is alot of stuff about Craig Maxim on google, but all the stuff related to you that I could find so far, 4 pages worth now, that I can confirm are you, not Craig E. Maxim who looks alot different than you, as does Craig T. Maxim...so please, point me to the books, I'd like to read them. Everything I've found so far is stuff you or people on facebook or other networking sites have written about you. No musical references beyond your last band and train. Please, some links to end all this fighting

#81043 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:11 pm
No, Rev. You're describing incentive, or quota pay vs hourly wage.

You pick such & such amount for this amount of pay. Works the same whether you're legal or not. Get those high school kids out there working in the fields & orchards like they USED to be able to do before we got so down on child labor. Gives them some self respect, & they learn the value of a dollar while they're at it.

My 1st job, at age 12, was in the tobacco fields. Hard labor, for sure! Worked there for 4 years. It did me a world of good. My son couldn't do it, & his son has even less of a chance, while those jobs go to illegals. How is that right?

#81048 by Rev Mike
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:30 pm
philbymon wrote:No, Rev. You're describing incentive, or quota pay vs hourly wage.

You pick such & such amount for this amount of pay. Works the same whether you're legal or not. Get those high school kids out there working in the fields & orchards like they USED to be able to do before we got so down on child labor. Gives them some self respect, & they learn the value of a dollar while they're at it.

My 1st job, at age 12, was in the tobacco fields. Hard labor, for sure! Worked there for 4 years. It did me a world of good. My son couldn't do it, & his son has even less of a chance, while those jobs go to illegals. How is that right?


thats the thing, nowadays there is no work ethic. Example:

Just yesterday I was at a sub shop with my wife and daughter for lunch. It is a very busy shop because they make great bread. I overheard the employees complaining among themselves about how they wish these "idiots" would just find someplace else to eat.

The owner of this shop pays these employees above minimum wage to greet his customers in a friendly manner and serve the food the way he believes it should be prepared. So far, the shop is surviving on food alone.

These employees seem to forget, or they just dont care, that if these "idiots" would find someplace else to eat, they wouldn't have a job that pays above minimum wage.

So my point is, if they're making above minimum wage and cant stand their jobs in an air conditioned sub shop where their biggest worry is what NOT to put on the sandwiches, cause they come with everything unless you request a removal, and they can't handle it, you know darn well they are not going out in the hot sun and climbing ladders with those heavy sacks to collect apples for what they pay the mexicans.

Americans want high pay and as little work as possible for their money, and it will never go back to the old days because of technology. Most things that require more than the hands to do are being done by robots now.

Americans really should fear technology replacing them in their cushy jobs rather than illegals taking the jobs they don't want anyway.

They have the option now to accept the wages as they are, the only ones that will accept those wages seem to be mexicans.

#81053 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:48 pm
Okay, Rev. If your kids won't do the work, get the convicts to do it. There is ALWAYS a solution, if you look for it. Their revenues will keep them off the tax dollar dole, by paying for their food & housing. If you can make them pick up trash on the roadside, you can make them pick fruits & vegies.

We do NOT need an illegal work force!

#81067 by philbymon
Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:24 pm
Rev Mike wrote:http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/craig.html


This certainly explains a lot, but it doesn't give one iota of credence to his claims of "divine guidance." It also gives my advice to get professional help even more validity, wouldn't you think? Especially when you consider his claims to have an "in" with the divine spirit?

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