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social orders are built on the family, the progressive nuclear family, not on sodomites undertaking psychological experiments on surplus and abandoned children.


social order as a rule ignore groups of women in caretaking roles.
birds, cats, orphans what have you.

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cite a relevant fact about amazon culture that implicate this thread.

"social order as a rule ignore groups of women in caretaking roles."

I think I have seen a story about Native Americans or at least some sect or tribe of North American Native Americans fully and wholly accept the cross-gender , transvestite, gay life , and calling them the THIRD SEX neither female nor male.. gay people fit into this loosely associated group.. in other words Native Americans at least some tribes know it perhaps is abnormal, but it's a reality that has to be reckoned with..

I think I have seen a story about Native Americans or at least some sect or tribe of North American Native Americans fully and wholly accept the cross-gender , transvestite, gay life , and calling them the THIRD SEX neither female nor male.. gay people fit into this loosely associated group.. in other words Native Americans at least some tribes know it perhaps is abnormal, but it's a reality that has to be reckoned with..

Two-Spirit People - They were commonly the shamans of the tribe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

I think I have seen a story about Native Americans or at least some sect or tribe of North American Native Americans fully and wholly accept the cross-gender , transvestite, gay life , and calling them the THIRD SEX neither female nor male.. gay people fit into this loosely associated group.. in other words Native Americans at least some tribes know it perhaps is abnormal, but it's a reality that has to be reckoned with..

Two-Spirit People - They were commonly the shamans of the tribe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Spirit

They often referred to them as being "A little light in the moccasins"

social orders are built on the family, the progressive nuclear family, not on sodomites undertaking psychological experiments on surplus and abandoned children.
homosexual men are already in a state of maturity malfunction.
so they are unlikely to undertake parenting to any degree worth discussing.
homosexuality is a genetic death sentence.
so a healthy minds, as a rule do not consider homosexual permanence.

social order as a rule ignore groups of women in caretaking roles.
birds, cats, orphans what have you.

get a group of sodomites together under the auspicious of training their replacements,
and you will have violent civil action.

You can file this information back in your ass, where you pulled it from.

BTW, why did you delete your profile image?
Anything is better than a blank silhouette.

I actually knew a couple who were gay and they raised a daughter. For all intents and purposes , she grew up to be okay... Got married (heterosexual) and has kids.

All Jokes and cut-downs to the side .. If we, as human beings are to be honest; Its the "behaviors , driven by an unfamiliar (To us individually) orientation, which many cannot reconcile. Ultra left wing liberals will NEVER accept the scientific theory that homosexuality is an "abnormalcy" in a human make up and in the social bubble. Albeit, no one cant argue JC's point that gaydom is a genetic death sentence.

On the other hand, Ultra-Rights will never accept that gaydom is NOT about immorality. They cant understand the science behind this phenomenon. Most gay people will tell you its not a moral 'choice' of theirs.

The facts are this: Children are actually as safe, if not safer ...in the hands of a gay couple as they are with a straight couples. But, being Straight (or living like it) tends to provide wicked people a license of social freedoms to hide behind.
Being gay is the last impression a straight/pedophile wants for an image, (because of the vigilance of scrutiny against gay people in our society)
Kids are no less safe or morally compromised for having had gay parents, than they are for having had murderers for parents. In fact , ..kids are much safer with the gay parents in that set of choices.

facts?

what gay culture are you basing this fact on?
what so called gay society has existed for any time at all
where was this exclusive info gathered from
this is of course total crap,
made up out of a few legends that are passed around college dorms.

THere is plenty of literature on this, JC. Plus the anecdotal evidence that I am declaring (I knew a gay Couple and the facts are... their child turned out just fine.).
You didn't ask me what 'Murder culture' I was referenceing? I'll tell you anyway. Here it is...are you ready? Straight American Citizens. We are collectively the biggest group of murderers (and killers) next to Europe, Russia and the mIddle east. To put it another way...it sucks right now to be a deer in America, or a black teenager near a police precinct. I wont even go into the plethora of hate crimes that this country is riddled with... So what gay couple wants to draw negative attention to itself, knowing the hatred they have to face...They are inclined to behave twice as studious as straights... Same can be said for many other hard working minorities.

Sorry the notions here dont suit your biased perception..but they is the facts , whether we like it or not.

Mike : "what so called gay society has existed for any time at all"

Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house.
Gen 19:5 And they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them."
Gen 19:6 Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him,
Gen 19:7 and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly.
Gen 19:8 Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof."
Gen 19:9 But they said, "Stand back!" And they said, "This fellow came to sojourn, and he has become the judge! Now we will deal worse with you than with them." Then they pressed hard against the man Lot, and drew near to break the door down.
Gen 19:10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them and shut the door.
Gen 19:11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, both small and great, so that they wore themselves out groping for the door.

I do believe the term Sodomy is derived from this little episode. This story about a predominately gay community didn't end very well.

This story is the real reason that they want to change the definition of marriage. They need to in order to declare the Bible as "hate speech" along with anyone who believes in the God of Israel. This isn't about rights, or perversion, it is about spiritual warfare.

This story is the real reason that they want to change the definition of marriage. They need to in order to declare the Bible as "hate speech" along with anyone who believes in the God of Israel. This isn't about rights, or perversion, it is about spiritual warfare.

Fools will always mock the things they do not understand.

Mike : "what so called gay society has existed for any time at all"

Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house.
Gen 19:5 And they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them."
Gen 19:6 Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him,
Gen 19:7 and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly.
Gen 19:8 Behold, I have two daughters who have not known any man. Let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please. Only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof."
Gen 19:9 But they said, "Stand back!" And they said, "This fellow came to sojourn, and he has become the judge! Now we will deal worse with you than with them." Then they pressed hard against the man Lot, and drew near to break the door down.
Gen 19:10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them and shut the door.
Gen 19:11 And they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, both small and great, so that they wore themselves out groping for the door.

I do believe the term Sodomy is derived from this little episode. This story about a predominately gay community didn't end very well.


Well to me that was more than a freak show... what kind of idiot would toss his own daughters into a den of vipers like that?

social orders are built on the family, the progressive nuclear family, not on sodomites undertaking psychological experiments on surplus and abandoned children.
homosexual men are already in a state of maturity malfunction.
so they are unlikely to undertake parenting to any degree worth discussing.
homosexuality is a genetic death sentence.
so a healthy minds, as a rule do not consider homosexual permanence.

social order as a rule ignore groups of women in caretaking roles.
birds, cats, orphans what have you.

get a group of sodomites together under the auspicious of training their replacements,
and you will have violent civil action.

You can file this information back in your ass, where you pulled it from.

BTW, why did you delete your profile image?
Anything is better than a blank silhouette.

I actually knew a couple who were gay and they raised a daughter. For all intents and purposes , she grew up to be okay... Got married (heterosexual) and has kids.

All Jokes and cut-downs to the side .. If we, as human beings are to be honest; Its the "behaviors , driven by an unfamiliar (To us individually) orientation, which many cannot reconcile. Ultra left wing liberals will NEVER accept the scientific theory that homosexuality is an "abnormalcy" in a human make up and in the social bubble. Albeit, no one cant argue JC's point that gaydom is a genetic death sentence.

On the other hand, Ultra-Rights will never accept that gaydom is NOT about immorality. They cant understand the science behind this phenomenon. Most gay people will tell you its not a moral 'choice' of theirs.

The facts are this: Children are actually as safe, if not safer ...in the hands of a gay couple as they are with a straight couples. But, being Straight (or living like it) tends to provide wicked people a license of social freedoms to hide behind.
Being gay is the last impression a straight/pedophile wants for an image, (because of the vigilance of scrutiny against gay people in our society)
Kids are no less safe or morally compromised for having had gay parents, than they are for having had murderers for parents. In fact , ..kids are much safer with the gay parents in that set of choices.

facts?

what gay culture are you basing this fact on?
what so called gay society has existed for any time at all
where was this exclusive info gathered from
this is of course total crap,
made up out of a few legends that are passed around college dorms.

THere is plenty of literature on this, JC. Plus the anecdotal evidence that I am declaring (I knew a gay Couple and the facts are... their child turned out just fine.).
You didn't ask me what 'Murder culture' I was referenceing? I'll tell you anyway. Here it is...are you ready? Straight American Citizens. We are collectively the biggest group of murderers (and killers) next to Europe, Russia and the mIddle east. To put it another way...it sucks right now to be a deer in America, or a black teenager near a police precinct. I wont even go into the plethora of hate crimes that this country is riddled with... So what gay couple wants to draw negative attention to itself, knowing the hatred they have to face...They are inclined to behave twice as studious as straights... Same can be said for many other hard working minorities.

Sorry the notions here dont suit your biased perception..but they is the facts , whether we like it or not.

in the days before the internet,
people used to write books,
books were peer reviewed for accuracy, and standards of empirical data had benchmarks and constants.
today anyone can say anything and it is accepted as fact.
jot it down on wikipedia and boom ready made facts.
there is no empirical data on homosexual male couples raising children.

you're whole premise is based on the condition that what used to be very strict laws surrounding family life are eliminated or no longer enforced.
and the perception that the fag gym teacher from the public school system has more power inside your household than you do living there as a father or mother.



you read an article?
whats an article?

I saw two guys kissing=they are a nuclear family.

they seem nicer than daddy was to me, = they are better parents.

(never mind those 10 yrs they spent in the public toilet stall having indiscriminate sex with anyone who would oblige)

you are a victim of conditioning
conditioning by values clarification.

I really love my dog. I'd like to marry my dog since I love him so much.

good to know you think of of gays and dogs as being one and the same. most enlightened.

in the days before the internet,
people used to write books,
books were peer reviewed for accuracy, and standards of empirical data had benchmarks and constants.
today anyone can say anything and it is accepted as fact.
jot it down on Wikipedia and boom ready made facts.

Have you ever tried contributing to Wikipedia?
It isn't easy.
They ARE constantly peer reviewed, quite scrutinousy actually.
Although, sometimes it takes a little time for them to catch errors.
And guess where the source of most of the material comes from?
Books.

there is no empirical data on homosexual male couples raising children.

Wrong.
A lot of empirical data HAS already been gathered on the subject.
What the data says is that homosexual couples who raise children are about as good or bad at it as heterosexual couples.
It doesn't really make them any better or worse.

I agree with what bob said.. why would you care? What does it matter?

On top of that, of ALL the problems we have in the world today, social morals and acceptances really are at the bottom of my list.. the freeking planet is going to hell and people are worried about what some guy down the street is doing in his own home, on his own property?! Seriously, this is stupid. Let them marry, then pay the marriage penalty at tax time so we have more tax earnings to buy bombs to kill people in far away lands who aren't the right color.

"As long as your not hurting someone else or yourself and I don't have to look at it". lol

I agree with what bob said.. why would you care? What does it matter?

On top of that, of ALL the problems we have in the world today, social morals and acceptances really are at the bottom of my list.. the freeking planet is going to hell and people are worried about what some guy down the street is doing in his own home, on his own property?! Seriously, this is stupid. Let them marry, then pay the marriage penalty at tax time so we have more tax earnings to buy bombs to kill people in far away lands who aren't the right color.

that.

and just curious...how many atheists have problems w accepting gays vs. how many people who wrap themselves up in the bible.

if (you believe) your religion TELLS you that it's ok to feel threatened by gays and it's ok to hate them, look down upon them, and ridicule them.....you can have it.

enjoy your smug and false sense of moral superiority as you're pondering the question WWJH (who would jesus hate?).