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I feel better about my own rants and raves when i read this crap that some of you write.

DO YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME?

One would think that a group of musicians would be practicing or playing a gig some time.

Where have I been? Working.
99% of my bandmix ramblings are posted via smartphone, because I don't have the spare time to sit down at an actual computer and browse stuff.
I don't have the leisure of listening to radio shows during work - I sneak interaction in with the phone while at work - and ironically my work hours are my 'down time', compared to home.
Yes, you posted a few links. They didn't site well with some belief systems.
I suggest balancing out the sources, if it is really important to you to get the information out.

For the record, I am not an Obama supporter.

I do understand that it's hard to keep up with the tidal wave of sewage coming from DC these days. But we're living in times where we must stay aware. I change residence almost every day, yet I check in to the news matrix almost as much as my email to keep up.

And I do use several specialized sources, some of them rather obscure to westerners, but once I've been burned by a source I don't go back very often (if at all) so that rules NBC (and affiliates) & CBS out completely. I've caught them in too many outright lies. That describes most of today's major media.

Walid Shoebat is a former Palestinian terrorist with a focus on islamic threats, whom I know personally. His credibility is impeccable, but it's hard to get the truth in the arab world for western media so there aren't many alternatives to check his reports by. He'll let you know whether something is his editorial opinion or whether it is fact, which is extinct in American media. Brigitte Gabrieli is also an associate/friend of mine. She's a Lebanese-American advisor to the Pentagon and has also stated that there is MB infiltration. I'm hanging out for the last week with one of her chief correspondents.

Walid's blog has been dismissed as "anti-Obama" without even a glance only because it showed that there is a muslim brotherhood newspaper who supports what he has been saying for a while now. That is inconvenient for Obama supporters who worship him without a critical eye open...but what Walid is saying is true and he knows muslim tactics better than any of us.

But it's not like he is the only person who has said it. Peter King, Senator NY, and others have been raising unanswered questions about several Muslim Brotherhood operatives in the State Dept and Obama Administration for a while now too.

It isn't mentioned on the Dept of Propoganda (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, etc) but we do get nice stories about Michael Jackson or Honey Booboo instead having to listen to boring stories about a cover up in Bengazi, where our President has committed high treason.





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There is nothing extraordinary about muslums infiltrating the Gov. In fact, its so unextraordinary, that nobody takes notice when something like that happens. What work? Maybe just lift an eyelid once inna while...

Muslims working anywhere isn't news. The Muslim Brotherhood having influence at the White House and State Department is.

They are the original islamic terrorist group. Almost every terrorist group in the middle east is a spin-off from them, including Al Queda, whom I heard we were at war with...

Looks like they're winning since most Americans don't even know they are a threat.






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ahh terrorism.. the ultimate threat..

We've been running around in the desert for 10 years hunting this creature. It's a fact that our own efforts have been destructive to the peaceful civilians in the region, thus creating new terrorists faster than we kill them.

They really are a threat, because people believe they are, and our leaders get all hopped up on fear and go on killing sprees, using hundreds of billions of dollars and american lives to root out what is essentially a cockroach in someone else's kitchen.

Let's worry about making sure the cockroaches don't get into our kitchen.. one restaurant CAN'T possible eliminate the cockroach population in the entire city block, especially when they have to invade other people's restaurants.

Just secure our borders and save trillions, save american lives, and stop scaring everyone. More people die from the flu than terrorism in this country. We aren't spending trillions eliminating THAT threat.

(edit) as a side note, not just the flu.. but with the money we are spending fighting terrorism, we could give every single american 100% free healthcare and save hundreds of thousands of lives from early deaths by giving them access to doctors and specialists. It's really that simple.

ahh terrorism.. the ultimate threat..

We've been running around in the desert for 10 years hunting this creature. It's a fact that our own efforts have been destructive to the peaceful civilians in the region, thus creating new terrorists faster than we kill them.

They really are a threat, because people believe they are, and our leaders get all hopped up on fear and go on killing sprees, using hundreds of billions of dollars and american lives to root out what is essentially a cockroach in someone else's kitchen.

Let's worry about making sure the cockroaches don't get into our kitchen.. one restaurant CAN'T possible eliminate the cockroach population in the entire city block, especially when they have to invade other people's restaurants.

Just secure our borders and save trillions, save american lives, and stop scaring everyone. More people die from the flu than terrorism in this country. We aren't spending trillions eliminating THAT threat.

(edit) as a side note, not just the flu.. but with the money we are spending fighting terrorism, we could give every single american 100% free healthcare and save hundreds of thousands of lives from early deaths by giving them access to doctors and specialists. It's really that simple.

Wow Kramer, how soon we forget 9/11 Eh? you seem to have forgotten what 9/11 really cost us. The economy was already struggling, then 9/11 came and pushed it over the cliff. Not to mention the 3000 plus American lives, husbands, wives, sons, and daughters that were snuffed out in an instant. We have all but given up freedom so that we can be protected from those "terrorists". Our citizens, grandmothers in depends and little children get a humiliating strip search and folks like you and Jimmy cynically insist they are not a threat? 9/11 showed just how easily terrorist can attack us on our own soil and you suggest its no big deal? We haven't been attacked at that level since December 7th 1941 and its no big deal REALLY? I am flabbergasted by your treasonist thought process sometimes! I am sorry this post sounds so harsh but thats how I feel and I'm sure I ain't the only one! I agree about closing the border because as I have been saying since the day after 9/11 the next terrorist group will have access via the southern border! IMO it is your way of thinking that is going to allow for more attacks on our freedoms!

ahh terrorism.. the ultimate threat..

We've been running around in the desert for 10 years hunting this creature. It's a fact that our own efforts have been destructive to the peaceful civilians in the region, thus creating new terrorists faster than we kill them.

They really are a threat, because people believe they are, and our leaders get all hopped up on fear and go on killing sprees, using hundreds of billions of dollars and american lives to root out what is essentially a cockroach in someone else's kitchen.

Let's worry about making sure the cockroaches don't get into our kitchen.. one restaurant CAN'T possible eliminate the cockroach population in the entire city block, especially when they have to invade other people's restaurants.

Just secure our borders and save trillions, save american lives, and stop scaring everyone. More people die from the flu than terrorism in this country. We aren't spending trillions eliminating THAT threat.

(edit) as a side note, not just the flu.. but with the money we are spending fighting terrorism, we could give every single american 100% free healthcare and save hundreds of thousands of lives from early deaths by giving them access to doctors and specialists. It's really that simple.

Wow Kramer, how soon we forget 9/11 Eh? you seem to have forgotten what 9/11 really cost us. The economy was already struggling, then 9/11 came and pushed it over the cliff. Not to mention the 3000 plus American lives, husbands, wives, sons, and daughters that were snuffed out in an instant. We have all but given up freedom so that we can be protected from those "terrorists". Our citizens, grandmothers in depends and little children get a humiliating strip search and folks like you and Jimmy cynically insist they are not a threat? 9/11 showed just how easily terrorist can attack us on our own soil and you suggest its no big deal? We haven't been attacked at that level since December 7th 1941 and its no big deal REALLY? I am flabbergasted by your treasonist thought process sometimes! I am sorry this post sounds so harsh but thats how I feel and I'm sure I ain't the only one! I agree about closing the border because as I have been saying since the day after 9/11 the next terrorist group will have access via the southern border! IMO it is your way of thinking that is going to allow for more attacks on our freedoms!

The official 9/11 story is the wildest theory of all.
It's so full of holes you could fly a plane through it.

so....why is charlie chaplin wearing that nascar jacket?

ahh terrorism.. the ultimate threat..

We've been running around in the desert for 10 years hunting this creature. It's a fact that our own efforts have been destructive to the peaceful civilians in the region, thus creating new terrorists faster than we kill them.

They really are a threat, because people believe they are, and our leaders get all hopped up on fear and go on killing sprees, using hundreds of billions of dollars and american lives to root out what is essentially a cockroach in someone else's kitchen.

Let's worry about making sure the cockroaches don't get into our kitchen.. one restaurant CAN'T possible eliminate the cockroach population in the entire city block, especially when they have to invade other people's restaurants.

Just secure our borders and save trillions, save american lives, and stop scaring everyone. More people die from the flu than terrorism in this country. We aren't spending trillions eliminating THAT threat.

(edit) as a side note, not just the flu.. but with the money we are spending fighting terrorism, we could give every single american 100% free healthcare and save hundreds of thousands of lives from early deaths by giving them access to doctors and specialists. It's really that simple.

Wow Kramer, how soon we forget 9/11 Eh? you seem to have forgotten what 9/11 really cost us. The economy was already struggling, then 9/11 came and pushed it over the cliff. Not to mention the 3000 plus American lives, husbands, wives, sons, and daughters that were snuffed out in an instant. We have all but given up freedom so that we can be protected from those "terrorists". Our citizens, grandmothers in depends and little children get a humiliating strip search and folks like you and Jimmy cynically insist they are not a threat? 9/11 showed just how easily terrorist can attack us on our own soil and you suggest its no big deal? We haven't been attacked at that level since December 7th 1941 and its no big deal REALLY? I am flabbergasted by your treasonist thought process sometimes! I am sorry this post sounds so harsh but thats how I feel and I'm sure I ain't the only one! I agree about closing the border because as I have been saying since the day after 9/11 the next terrorist group will have access via the southern border! IMO it is your way of thinking that is going to allow for more attacks on our freedoms!

The official 9/11 story is the wildest theory of all.
It's so full of holes you could fly a plane through it.

Oh NO! Mikey don't tell me, you believe it was our own government that did 9/11? Where IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK this PROPAGANDA comes from? It comes from the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD SUCKER!
You smart guys are letting your intellect get in the way of your common sense. I would even go as far as to say "Your common sense is blinded by your intellect"!

Wow Kramer, how soon we forget 9/11 Eh? you seem to have forgotten what 9/11 really cost us.

Not at all, I know EXACTLY what it cost us. I was there the day after, I saw with my own eyes. It was horrifying and I wish I could forget some of the things I saw.

We have all but given up freedom so that we can be protected from those "terrorists". Our citizens, grandmothers in depends and little children get a humiliating strip search

I've been pretty vocal in the past that *I* never agreed with our response, which includes not only the military response, but those things you mention above. The founders were pretty explicit in their beliefs that those freedoms were sacred, especially during times of perceived threats, foreign or domestic.

and folks like you and Jimmy cynically insist they are not a threat? 9/11 showed just how easily terrorist can attack us on our own soil and you suggest its no big deal? We haven't been attacked at that level since December 7th 1941 and its no big deal REALLY?

Of COURSE it's a big deal! Our problem is that everyone chose to just react- blindly, to the incident, as if it was an isolated incident that just magically came out of nowhere. Still to this day, people refuse to acknowledge the roots of the problem, what led up, and ultimately caused it to become a reality.

It was allowed to happen by several key figures in the FAA, CIA and FBI - all being asleep at the switch. We knew all along that they wanted to blow up the towers, as evidenced by the failed attempt during the clinton administration. Our government was more than aware of the "threat" and did so little to stop it that you can only deduce that they allowed it to happen, if by means of stupidity alone.

At the time of the attacks, the job I had necessitated me flying all over north america. The security in airports was good enough, IF the single security guards at the terminal EXITS weren't always asleep at their stations... I noticed that and complained to airport officials several times prior to 9-11. Anyone could just walk into the terminal through the EXIT, avoiding all luggage and personal detection. My complaints weren't even taken seriously.

But in light of it all, I had to travel two weeks after 9-11. Seated on the plane was a "middle-eastern-looking" guy wearing a turban .. do you think ANY of us took our eyes off him for a moment? Do you think if he, and even if 5 others with him, all pulled out box-cutters, that we, the other passengers, wouldn't have pummeled them all to death on the spot?

Nope, that dude would have been lucky to survive had he shown even the slightest intent to be disruptive.

Right then and there, I knew- The american people are the KEY to ensuring terrorism doesn't happen here again. Sure, we can't stop every possible attempt, but we can sure as hell stop most. We can do it more effectively than the government (reporting suspicious activity vs. government spying on everyone), and cheaper. Yes, we need the CIA, FAA, and FBI to do their jobs and monitor domestic and foreign threats, and react to them, but it's obvious that they won't catch them all.. and no amount of domestic spying, or overseas wars will remotely change that.

They TOOK our freedoms, as much as we just gave them up, though a well orchestrated campaign of fear and propaganda. I was NEVER on board with any of our responses, as I knew that day on the plane. WE won't ever let a plane get hijacked again in this country. Even if that means me forcing that terrorist to unload his entire clip into me so that he wouldn't be able to unload it into the pilot. I'm sure everyone else on the plane would have got in line behind me to give the same.

If it came down to it, we would crash the plane to save the target, as proven by the passengers of flight 93 when they realized what the reality of the situation was.

I am flabbergasted by your treasonist thought process sometimes! I am sorry this post sounds so harsh but thats how I feel and I'm sure I ain't the only one! I agree about closing the border because as I have been saying since the day after 9/11 the next terrorist group will have access via the southern border! IMO it is your way of thinking that is going to allow for more attacks on our freedoms!

I think I just thoroughly debunked that statement.

Wow Kramer, how soon we forget 9/11 Eh? you seem to have forgotten what 9/11 really cost us.

Not at all, I know EXACTLY what it cost us. I was there the day after, I saw with my own eyes. It was horrifying and I wish I could forget some of the things I saw.

We have all but given up freedom so that we can be protected from those "terrorists". Our citizens, grandmothers in depends and little children get a humiliating strip search

I've been pretty vocal in the past that *I* never agreed with our response, which includes not only the military response, but those things you mention above. The founders were pretty explicit in their beliefs that those freedoms were sacred, especially during times of perceived threats, foreign or domestic.

and folks like you and Jimmy cynically insist they are not a threat? 9/11 showed just how easily terrorist can attack us on our own soil and you suggest its no big deal? We haven't been attacked at that level since December 7th 1941 and its no big deal REALLY?

Of COURSE it's a big deal! Our problem is that everyone chose to just react- blindly, to the incident, as if it was an isolated incident that just magically came out of nowhere. Still to this day, people refuse to acknowledge the roots of the problem, what led up, and ultimately caused it to become a reality.

It was allowed to happen by several key figures in the FAA, CIA and FBI - all being asleep at the switch. We knew all along that they wanted to blow up the towers, as evidenced by the failed attempt during the clinton administration. Our government was more than aware of the "threat" and did so little to stop it that you can only deduce that they allowed it to happen, if by means of stupidity alone.

At the time of the attacks, the job I had necessitated me flying all over north america. The security in airports was good enough, IF the single security guards at the terminal EXITS weren't always asleep at their stations... I noticed that and complained to airport officials several times prior to 9-11. Anyone could just walk into the terminal through the EXIT, avoiding all luggage and personal detection. My complaints weren't even taken seriously.

But in light of it all, I had to travel two weeks after 9-11. Seated on the plane was a "middle-eastern-looking" guy wearing a turban .. do you think ANY of us took our eyes off him for a moment? Do you think if he, and even if 5 others with him, all pulled out box-cutters, that we, the other passengers, wouldn't have pummeled them all to death on the spot?

Nope, that dude would have been lucky to survive had he shown even the slightest intent to be disruptive.

Right then and there, I knew- The american people are the KEY to ensuring terrorism doesn't happen here again. Sure, we can't stop every possible attempt, but we can sure as hell stop most. We can do it more effectively than the government (reporting suspicious activity vs. government spying on everyone), and cheaper. Yes, we need the CIA, FAA, and FBI to do their jobs and monitor domestic and foreign threats, and react to them, but it's obvious that they won't catch them all.. and no amount of domestic spying, or overseas wars will remotely change that.

They TOOK our freedoms, as much as we just gave them up, though a well orchestrated campaign of fear and propaganda. I was NEVER on board with any of our responses, as I knew that day on the plane. WE won't ever let a plane get hijacked again in this country. Even if that means me forcing that terrorist to unload his entire clip into me so that he wouldn't be able to unload it into the pilot. I'm sure everyone else on the plane would have got in line behind me to give the same.

If it came down to it, we would crash the plane to save the target, as proven by the passengers of flight 93 when they realized what the reality of the situation was.

I am flabbergasted by your treasonist thought process sometimes! I am sorry this post sounds so harsh but thats how I feel and I'm sure I ain't the only one! I agree about closing the border because as I have been saying since the day after 9/11 the next terrorist group will have access via the southern border! IMO it is your way of thinking that is going to allow for more attacks on our freedoms!

I think I just thoroughly debunked that statement.

Yes you did debunk it and thanks for that. It sure seems like the post I first responded to that you were dimissing the importance of 9/11 and terrorism in general. Those terrorist are supported by the unfortunate victims of collateral damage! What do you think Benghazi or the compound where they finally found Osama Bin Laden was about? Do you think the Pakastani government and military knew Osama was there? I believe they did I believe that terrorist are supported by a larger group of Muslims than you or Jimmy are willing to admit (at least to yourselves)! Make NO MISTAKE I phukin remember how many of those sons o bitches were filmed dancing in the streets celebrating 9/11 that day! They are coming in MASS at some point! I prefer to be prepared for whatever. You can believe whatever you want.

There's no shortage of stupid people Jeff, here or there. But dancing does not make you a terrorist.

Regarding TSA, I used to fly over 50,000 miles per year. That stopped with TSA groping. Been driving everywhere since 2007 with overseas exceptions.

The fact that we allow untrained operatives to grope us without a warrant told me that freedom in America is on it's way out. Actually I think the toll road payment via pictures is more dangerous, but that's another topic.

The best solution to airplane security is giving every passenger a baseball bat when they get on. Then we can all play whack-a-mole.

There's no shortage of stupid people Jeff, here or there. But dancing does not make you a terrorist.

Dancing to celebrate the murder of 3,000+ people (including muslims) does qualify though.







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There's no shortage of stupid people Jeff, here or there. But dancing does not make you a terrorist.

So Jimmy, you don't believe those people in muslim countries that celebrated back on both 9/11/01 and 9/11/12 are enemies and would support terrorism if they could?