General Music Chat

I am confused? is Andy yod?

No Yod is a singer writer of Christian music! However he is good enough to have ANDY and a drummer that is a "freak of nature" play on his records! REGULARY Eh!

Dane, did you watch that video "Cry For You" in its entirety?

again, I am a newcomer here, so as far as knowing how big yod was in the music business is beyond me.. but from what I gather, he was in Christian music.. my neighbor here in Missouri, wanted to downplay yod's success but I am inclined to believe yod found more success than most of us have here..

Dane, how good do you have to be to get this guy to play guitar on your record?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaVVZYOvMFY

Bump!

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Ted Poley? don't think so, cause I can remember yod talking about being from Texas and not New Jersey, and hated the Ku Klux Klan who controlled his hometown.. don't know why I would remember that but I do..

lest ye forget, dial-up takes forever and I'm on dial-up

Mybad Brother! Seriously you OWE it to yourself to watch this MAJIC performance. Have you ever been at a show watching a performance all the while knowing you were witnessing something truly special? Well this is the topper of all TOPPERS!

Ted Poley? don't think so, cause I can remember yod talking about being from Texas and not New Jersey, and hated the Ku Klux Klan who controlled his hometown.. don't know why I would remember that but I do..

You got the first name right but the last name is wrong. I don't want to put his name out there without his permission. I Truly believe his music is one of gods special gifts to humanity!

Ted, My songs are extraordinary...

I know!!! That's why I wanted you to treat them like they were.

However, I hardly doubt, that even with the best production available, that my extraordinary songs would be received as such...

Being great is always risky. You'll never know if you don't try.

I've been striving for the best all my life,

You settled for less here. how does it feel?

Throw some money at me, produce and promote me,

Like I say all the time, if you aren't willing to invest in yourself why would anyone else be? When you truly believe your songs are as good as anyone else's, you'll treat them like they are.

Look....it's not the end of the world if you learned something. I made the same mistake several times. Consider it cheaper than a college education and keep moving forward. You only lose if you quit.




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Ted Poley? don't think so, cause I can remember yod talking about being from Texas and not New Jersey, and hated the Ku Klux Klan who controlled his hometown.. don't know why I would remember that but I do..

You got the first name right but the last name is wrong. I don't want to put his name out there without his permission. I Truly believe his music is one of gods special gifts to humanity!

Wow...that's an honor coming from someone as talented as you, bro. Thank you most sincerely.


Dane, you never heard of me. I prefer little bitty places where I can look the audience in the eye...no where to hide and nothing to hide behind except a mic stand.

But I tour (solo) more than 300 days of the year since 2004, (150-200 concerts a year) and songs I've written are being used by churches/congregations all over the world. Many of them have no idea who I am either. LOL

I go everywhere for an offering and a place to sleep. That has brought me to 5 continents so far. The 2013 west coast tour begins Jan 3rd and this is the first time all year that i've had 2 whole weeks at home. I was out of the country for about 2 months and still ended up putting 48,000 miles on my van this year. Crossed the nation twice in 2012.

That might explain why I'm so cranky sometimes? LOL

Yod,
If you need a place to stay when you come to SoCal, let me know. I've got room for you brother.

I am just wanting to have complete control over my original music and have the (time) to really kick back and let the creative juices flow.

and THAT is really what a songwriter should be doing. All songwriters should make it a priority to be hooked up with a half-decent home demo studio. It doesn't have to be a lot to really help you write songs and then communicate to musicians what it sounded like in your head.



OK...hypothetical for anyone/everyone:

If you could hire (fill in the blank of your favorite all-time musician heroes) to play on your album for (fill in the blank with $$$ that isn't too far-fetched) would you do it? Would you sell your car or take a second mortgage out to hire (fill in the blank) as your band?


I'm just a stickler for highest quality if you're going to make a recording of something worth hearing. Why even try to do something less?

In your case, having great (and I don't mean good) musicians is worth whatever it takes. Cut corners by editing & mixing in smaller rooms, but cut (at least) the drums and vocals in the big room at a GREAT place.

Really Grant, if you truly have extraordinary songs (and I believe you do)...then it's all about framing, so I'm bitching that you'd make an extra effort to be the absolute best in TEXAS (who cares about anyone else?) if it means you only record one song this whole dang year.

All it's going to take is firm faith in your songs & ability....and a whole lot of chudspah!



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I've been striving for the best all my life,

You settled for less here. how does it feel?

Sorry Ted, I'm calling bullshit here. Have you arrived at your best? If you have, please do point it out...

Okay Bench for two (Mastered Version).

What I'd like to ask, is to play it on speakers (not head phones) without disrupting your typical stereo system settings...

Give me your feedback... (re about the production levels, etc)

Thanks

I am just wanting to have complete control over my original music and have the (time) to really kick back and let the creative juices flow.

and THAT is really what a songwriter should be doing. All songwriters should make it a priority to be hooked up with a half-decent home demo studio. It doesn't have to be a lot to really help you write songs and then communicate to musicians what it sounded like in your head.

I never understood the concept of producing a REALLY GOOD demo.
I mean, if you're gonna spend the money and do the work THEN THAT SHOULD BE "IT".
JIMHO.
A "demo", to me, is something to just scribble an idea on.
There is no intention to release it to the general public.
It's just a rough outline.
A sketch.
A simple boombox or 4-track recording should suffice if THAT'S all you're going to do.
If you're going to commit to building a home studio, you're spending a considerable amount of money and putting a lot of work into it.
So, why wouldn't you put all that toward the finished product?
Why waste it on something that no one will ever hear?
I don't get that.

OK...hypothetical for anyone/everyone:

If you could hire (fill in the blank of your favorite all-time musician heroes) to play on your album for (fill in the blank with $$$ that isn't too far-fetched) would you do it? Would you sell your car or take a second mortgage out to hire (fill in the blank) as your band?


I'm just a stickler for highest quality if you're going to make a recording of something worth hearing. Why even try to do something less?

In your case, having great (and I don't mean good) musicians is worth whatever it takes.

Okay, first, I'm a realist.
If I could afford to hire my dream band, sure I would do it.
But, there is NO WAY that I could afford it.

The music world is filled to the brim with unrealistic people.
People with stars in their eyes, with the vain belief that they are destined to be famous rock stars or something.

Those people are very sad.

You can be fairly successful as a musician and make a meager living, if you don't mind being homeless for a lot of years.
If I were still alone, with no one depending on me, it would still be worth it for me to go through that again.
But, I cannot ask someone else to go through all of that just because it is something that I want.

Cut corners by editing & mixing in smaller rooms, but cut (at least) the drums and vocals in the big room at a GREAT place.

That's the plan.
Record the electrical gear at home, directly.
And then use higher-end facilities with good mics and acoustics to do the vocals & drums.

I am just wanting to have complete control over my original music and have the (time) to really kick back and let the creative juices flow.

and THAT is really what a songwriter should be doing. All songwriters should make it a priority to be hooked up with a half-decent home demo studio. It doesn't have to be a lot to really help you write songs and then communicate to musicians what it sounded like in your head.

I never understood the concept of producing a REALLY GOOD demo.
I mean, if you're gonna spend the money and do the work THEN THAT SHOULD BE "IT".
JIMHO.
A "demo", to me, is something to just scribble an idea on.
There is no intention to release it to the general public.
It's just a rough outline.
A sketch.
A simple boombox or 4-track recording should suffice if THAT'S all you're going to do.
If you're going to commit to building a home studio, you're spending a considerable amount of money and putting a lot of work into it.
So, why wouldn't you put all that toward the finished product?
Why waste it on something that no one will ever hear?
I don't get that.

OK...hypothetical for anyone/everyone:

If you could hire (fill in the blank of your favorite all-time musician heroes) to play on your album for (fill in the blank with $$$ that isn't too far-fetched) would you do it? Would you sell your car or take a second mortgage out to hire (fill in the blank) as your band?


I'm just a stickler for highest quality if you're going to make a recording of something worth hearing. Why even try to do something less?

In your case, having great (and I don't mean good) musicians is worth whatever it takes.

Okay, first, I'm a realist.
If I could afford to hire my dream band, sure I would do it.
But, there is NO WAY that I could afford it.

The music world is filled to the brim with unrealistic people.
People with stars in their eyes, with the vain belief that they are destined to be famous rock stars or something.

Those people are very sad.

You can be fairly successful as a musician and make a meager living, if you don't mind being homeless for a lot of years.
If I were still alone, with no one depending on me, it would still be worth it for me to go through that again.
But, I cannot ask someone else to go through all of that just because it is something that I want.

Cut corners by editing & mixing in smaller rooms, but cut (at least) the drums and vocals in the big room at a GREAT place.

That's the plan.
Record the electrical gear at home, directly.
And then use higher-end facilities with good mics and acoustics to do the vocals & drums.

Mike a Demo should be done to the best of your ability. Demos are used for various different reasons for instance a cover band uses them to get the BEST gigs for the best pay. A song writer/performer will use a demo to get other musicians to record it. Or to try and break into the mainstream music biz. basically it is to demonstrate how good your music is. Why would you not want the best you can muster? When I first got my digital recorder I had been in legitimate recording studios many times with various bands. Almost always it was as a studio musician to record a lead track on someone else's song. I had been writing music for years and still do have a ton of idea's. This BR1180 is a great tool to get my ideas down and be creative at my own pace. However it is very limiting. This next step I am taking is a natural step toward recording something better which is what we are all after IMO!
Another example Bostons debut album. I read somewhere that Tom Sholtz and Boston recorded most of those tracks in Toms basement studio. Apparently it got some attention because I also read that their debut album consisted of mostly those basement tracks. When recording an album with a band I was in in 1996 at Sugar Hill Studio's here in Houston, the engineer looked at us and said "this fix it in the mix isn't going to fly here we are going to get the individual tracks recorded correctly". I have tried to use that idea when recording. Naturally as you record you are going to want to take short cuts to move the project along. In most cases I have found that, that is a BAD IDEA. There are no shortcuts in music or recording you just have to bite the bullet pay your dues, get the best recording you can and keep pushing forward!