#83468 by Crip2Nite
Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:56 am
Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:56 am
There have got to be plenty of boobies in the crowd to feed the masses! 
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BobdoB wrote:you all seem to be fighting adamantly for your own beliefs, why cant you all just agree that we will all find out when we die?
neanderpaul wrote:Chippy the point was that nobody's opinion matters. What does matter is what the bible says.
Chris4Blues wrote:BobdoB wrote:Chris4Blues wrote:CraigMaxim wrote:Chris or Paul,
You believe that "God's Word" cannot contain any possibility for error. But in saying this, we all understand that you are actually referring to the Bible, as being God's word. Just as if He had written it with His own hand, correct?
Are we speaking of the original inspirations which were transcribed into Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek?
Or do you extend this to translations as well?
Such as an English version of the Bible?
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Craig,
Speaking for myself, I hold to the 1646 version of the Westminster Confession of Faith. To spare others having to sift through it, I refer you to the first section which describes very concisely my own position concerning the infallability of Scripture, and the fallable agents He used to produce it, and His ongoing preservation of it. How scripture is preserved is a faith committment on my part. But we can discuss it after you've carefully read Chapter 1, if you're interested that is.
http://www.reformed.org/documents/index ... faith.html
regards,
Chris
Ok, so that website says that these bible books are the word of God. So? Even if written in 1646, it is still a cannon of man. Some of the books of Apocrypha are still in the bible depending on your choice of denominations.
Well, it's a confession, not a cannon - you know, a summary of the biblical doctrines found in the Bible. Interesting story behind the Westminster Divines - it was a council devoted to investigating and summarizing what the Bible says.
Anyways, Craig asked what either Paul or myself believed and there you have it - what I believe. We never got into why I believe it, which is a different story.
BTW, you scrolled down, correct? or did you just read the first paragraph and bullet points counting the books?
Chris
BobdoB wrote:My question is based on the fact that by using that example, you EMPHASIZE Craig's point about men being involved in deciding what books are in the bible
Chris4Blues wrote:BobdoB wrote:My question is based on the fact that by using that example, you EMPHASIZE Craig's point about men being involved in deciding what books are in the bible
My view again, as summarized in the WCF, is that God involves men (the Church) in the preservation of His word. God does the preserving by means of fallen man and providence - not un-aided, autonomous man.
Per the apocrypha, et.al. The apocrypha contains elements that if held, would be internally inconsistent with the whole of the Bible. Because God cannot lie, elements that result in internal conflict can be assumed to be extra-biblical, which is one reason why it was excluded.
neanderpaul wrote:BobdoB wrote:you all seem to be fighting adamantly for your own beliefs, why cant you all just agree that we will all find out when we die?
I'm just quoting scripture. My opinion means nothing neither does anyone else's. We will find out then. Then it will be too late to correct. Or you can trust the promises in the bible. That it contains what we need to please him.
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