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#255088 by J-HALEY
Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:37 am
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Ted I quit playing violin back in the late 70's was actually very proficient on it. I picked it back up in 94 and was becoming good on it again but noticed my guitar chops suffering as a result.


that's interesting, jeff. is that because the time you were putting in on the violin took away from your playing/prcting time on gtr....or was it some physical/technical thing? or maybe playing an instrument tuned in 5ths vs. 4ths?


Ted, I discovered early on that guitar is to violin as a piano is to guitar. Don't get me wrong I love violin. I have always been a string player.
Thanks to you I'm probably going to buy another violin! :D this one will be electric! :wink:
#255099 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:23 am
Violin seems to take more dexterity than a guitar. I realize the strings are upside down to a guitar, but still it's fingers touching frets at just the right place.

I can't imagine playing a fretless guitar that small and being accurate on every note, like a great violinist is.
#255100 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:24 am
Planetguy wrote:
yod wrote:
Mark, you seem to be the most educated player in the bandmix wars here.


HA! I've fooled another one!



Yea, you really did. I was sure that you had studied more than that.
#255103 by J-HALEY
Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:31 am
Been a long hard day! :lol:
#262220 by Displaced Pianist
Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:06 pm
Well I'll be... A thread that isn't bashing someone or an 'A-B-C' conversation (A & B, please C your way out). Since my experience (apparently like the music I choose to play) is so different from everyone else's...

yod wrote:a) How old were you the first time you jammed with some kind of band or combo?

b) How old were you when you decided it was something you wanted to continue doing?

c) How old were you when you did your first gig? Your 100th gig?

d) How old were you when you decided you wanted to be professional OR decided it wasn't the career path you wanted to take? (There can be multiple answers for this one)

e) Was there one thing that caused you to give up on "the dream" you started out with?


a) W/ a band? Prob. around age 12, in Mike D.'s garage. They were all older (16-18) and I had stopped by just to listen, when the guitarist asked me to play a simple line on a Farfisa they had. But I wasn't "in the band," as they say.

b) Dunno, really--can't recall ever making a conscious decision like that. I played in college 'cause I needed the dough, but doing 12-bar I-IV-V7 all night was never something I aspired to. After college I dropped out for a number of years and made an honest living.

c) First gig (not to be confused w/ "first paying gig") was at age 9, in a recital @ St. Aloysius. For the person who asked about the first song, it was "Blue Tail Fly" (Jimmy crack corn, and I don't care...). In subsequent recitals, Sr. Elena moved me into classical, usually Chopin. First paying gig was around 13, playing for a jr. high dance; I was playing guitar. I never kept count, but my 100th had to be in the 80s, during college (back on the piano); you tend to lose count when you play the same thing, over-and-over, 4-5 nights a week for a few years straight. But it allowed me to live in a 1-bedroom apt. all by myself while I was in school, which was nice.

d) See b) above. After I got my M.A., I sold everything I owned and was glad to do so. I picked up again years later, when I decided it might be fun to focus entirely on the music I always loved to play, which leads to...

e) The only "dream" I ever had was to play w/ folks who liked the same type of music I did and who were willing to put in the time to develop the sound. That's never happened and likely never will--not in Tampa, anyway. I'm really envious of guys like P-guy who have done this and sustained it for a number of years. And I check out those Steely Dan tribute bands and wonder how they got 8-10 folks to buy into the idea and keep at it. My experience down here has been that guys hear what I play, then vanish. I assume they either detest the type of music I play (down here it's all bar blues, death metal & Lynyrd Skynyrd), are only looking for a quick payday ("Rehearse? Nah--I'll meet you at the gig. Have my money ready.") or they think I really suck. Or some combination thereof.
#262227 by DainNobody
Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:35 pm
And I check out those Steely Dan tribute bands and wonder how they got 8-10 folks to buy into the idea and keep at it

because it is hard to master a C13 chord
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these are hard chords to finger too..
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#262230 by J-HALEY
Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:33 pm
yod wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Thanks to you I'm probably going to buy another violin! :D this one will be electric! :wink:



Did you get one yet?


Ted it will most likely be a few months before I get one. I am so busy playing with two bands right now I just don't have any spare time at all. I guess that's a good thing right?
#262239 by Displaced Pianist
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:05 am
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:
And I check out those Steely Dan tribute bands and wonder how they got 8-10 folks to buy into the idea and keep at it

because it is hard to master a C13 chord


C'mon--I play Black Cow and it ain't that difficult. (Then again, if I really do suck...) But you miss the point: it does take some work for 8-10 folks to collectively get the right sound. So how do these SD tribute bands get 'em to buy into the idea and work at it until they do? That's the real accomplishment.
#262240 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:21 am
ok DP, I thought you meant you could not figure why only 8-10 people would try to be a SD tribute band.. I figured they would be into it to challenge themselves musically.. sorry.. please forgive me..
#262242 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:35 am
but surely a C13 chord is easier to play with two five fingered hands on keyboard, than it is with one five fingered guitar fretting hand? every C13 chord I have ever played on guitar forces you to fret at least 5 of the 6 strings.. and using the sixth string as the root a player does not play the 5th string but still has to fret the 4th 3rd 2nd and 1st along with the 6th strings.. quite hard on a guitar as opposed to a keyboard I assume.. :(
#262243 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:40 am
the opening chord on Black Cow is a C13 chord. quite dissonant sound..well.... the intro chord is a C6 but just about where the lyric begins , "corner" of my eye, is a big fat C13 chord..
#262245 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:46 am
but although the /transcriber is showing on his CHART according to my now torn up Steely Dan music book I acquired back in the late 70's they are using just Bb- E-A-C not using the 9th which is a D note.. then really even though they have marked it as a C13 it is really a C13 (no 9th).. I just love chartists.. LOL
#262246 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:47 am
and this is why the band SPIRIT lost the court case.. the charted TAURUS sounds nothing like the TAURUS on record
#262247 by DainNobody
Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:00 am
my twin brother loved the cassette tape I gave him The Twelve Lives of Dr. Sardonicus that he never returned it.. I have never asked for it back..

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