General Music Chat

Your CRAZY Mike, Ronald Reagan was the greatest leader the world has EVER KNOWN! He was responsible for ALL of the good years Clinton rode the coat tails of! Well all except for the B.J. Clinton got in the Oval office LMAO!

Dude, you're living in La-La land!
Turn off the FOX Noise.

Nope you are living in LaLa land! Now what is your reality again? Set on ass and spew hatred of the responsible? Well back atcha Brother!

Sorry I was so short with a couple of you. I have just had it with the attitudes of people who wish to steal another's wealth. And that is exactly what "Level the playing field" is. I understand the complaints, and I fee they are unmerited. I am hearing so much liberal share the wealth crap that it doesn't take much to trip.

The fact is that unless you are going right out the gate to compete with big oil, or big pharmacy, what the crap is the point? Anyone can compete on the level where ever they are at. They compete with those at the same level as they are. Want to begin a landscaping business? Easy to compete with the big guys. They have to provide insurance for employees and all the other gov regulation crap. Mow a lawn at a time and take clients from them one at a time buy doing it cheaper and better. . Easy enough. Pretty soon you will be the big dog on the block. And yes that is possible in America in spite of the government hoops that you have to jump through.

No playing field is "level" that is all lib speak that doesn't mean crap. Simply platitudes to make people dissatisfied with their lives by comparing them with others. Are the guitar players that are better than you stacking the playing field? Is the guy who looks better than you and gets the good looking women working on a level playing field? get it yet?

Nothing is a level playing field in life. But other people get there. That's just life folks. Maybe the guy in North Korea wants to start a particular business but he is discouraged because you can't do that in Korea. But he sees people doing it in America. So he wants the playing field leveled? Tough. Life isn't like that. Many times people went against the big guys and won. Apple and Microsoft. Jobs didn't sit around and complain. He decided to make something better than Microsoft and IBM. Were they big companies with a monopoly? But now who is raking in the big bucks? He has Microsoft and other companies trying to catch up with him.

That can be done in a good many fields. Some musicians went on line and pushed their stuff. They ended up with agents and some good gigs.

Maybe BO needs to bust knee caps to get ahead, but if you are competing with your peers as opposed to the giants you have a shot at it if you are good enough to step up to the challenge.

All this Pi$$ing and moaning about big oil and big pharmacy. Why? Are you actually competing with them or have plans to compete with them? No. You just want government to take their money. And what is gained? Nothing. Gov takes their money and they make it up by charging more for their product.

Screw big success? That would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. We had 7 music stores in this town that had their own repair facilities. I didn't complain. I just took their customers by doing a better job. When it was over they all were sending their store work to me as well as referring customers to me directly. I could have sat around and complained that it was unfair that music stores sold stuff and repaired it as well, leaving nothing for guys like me.

Instead I beat them at their own game. Anyone that is dedicated and can find a way to get in the door can do as well. You simply have to be better than your competition and even charge less for a better product until the public recognizes that you are better than your competition. I made a good living for over 50 years and I didn't have to break one knee cap or have some gov agency level the field.

If I had to I could get a lawnmower and mow lawns better and cheaper than some of these lawn services that are worth millions. And a lot of them started the same way, one customer at a time. I guess that if you aren't creative life has other plans for you. But life isn't a level playing field.

Mark, libs sure do sound like ya'll hate the rich, in fact I have never seen more envy, hatred, toward one group of people in my life.

sorry, jeff...i think you've been drinking the kool aide there bro and buying into that "why do libs hate the rich???" bullshit propaganda that fox and others of that ilk serve up for mass consumption.

trust me, i don't hate the rich. i don't envy them. and i'm not jealous of them. anyone that tells you i feel that way is selling you a heapload of bullcrap. sounds like maybe you were in the market, holmes 'cos it looks like you bought a cpl dumptruck loads.

No one here is saying the rich shouldn't pay their fare share.

but that's EXACTLY what's being said. that's why the big hoopla over continuing their tax breaks......so the rich continue to get a break. and the debate is over whether that's fair or not.

I certainly am not cause I ain't rich. The concern "we rightwingers" have is this really good for the job market? I remember how hard a time I had supporting my family when I was 21 in the early 80's recession. You know what my biggest fear is? That the same will happen again, the rich will set on their money not investing it! Seriously I do see that happening if ya'll keep this eat the rich mentallity going!

well how well has it worked out giving the jobmakers a break? did that work out great during bush's reign? or obama's first term? fact is the so called "jobs creators" were given a free pass and guess what...they didn't deliver.

Mark, libs sure do sound like ya'll hate the rich, in fact I have never seen more envy, hatred, toward one group of people in my life.

sorry, jeff...i think you've been drinking the kool aide there bro and buying into that "why do libs hate the rich???" bullshit propaganda that fox and others of that ilk serve up for mass consumption.

trust me, i don't hate the rich. i don't envy them. and i'm not jealous of them. anyone that tells you i feel that way is selling you a heapload of bullcrap. sounds like maybe you were in the market, holmes 'cos it looks like you bought a cpl dumptruck loads.

No one here is saying the rich shouldn't pay their fare share.

but that's EXACTLY what's being said. that's why the big hoopla over continuing their tax breaks......so the rich continue to get a break. and the debate is over whether that's fair or not.

I certainly am not cause I ain't rich. The concern "we rightwingers" have is this really good for the job market? I remember how hard a time I had supporting my family when I was 21 in the early 80's recession. You know what my biggest fear is? That the same will happen again, the rich will set on their money not investing it! Seriously I do see that happening if ya'll keep this eat the rich mentallity going!

well how well has it worked out giving the jobmakers a break? did that work out great during bush's reign? or obama's first term? fact is the so called "jobs creators" were given a free pass and guess what...they didn't deliver.

It worked out great during the Reagan years he created more jobs in history by shrinking government, lowering taxes and growing the tax base by having a business friendly environment. He brought down communism though you guys are hell bent on ushering it back in! he created the longest period of prosper in our countries history. Until you libs decided to take over via class warfare and phuk it all up!

It worked out great during the Reagan years he created more jobs in history by shrinking government, lowering taxes and growing the tax base by having a business friendly environment. He brought down communism though you guys are hell bent on ushering it back in! he created the longest period of prosper in our countries history. Until you libs decided to take over via class warfare and phuk it all up!

Whoah!

Talk about revisionist history!
I don't know how to undo that much brainwashing.
When you decide to join the real world, let us know, okay?
Maybe send us a postcard from Neoconservativeland some time?

Yeah I remember the 80's, not so great economically. Things really didn't pick up until the 90's (the economy was humming during Clinton's term). And Reagan didn't end the U.S.S.R., he was just at the right place at the right time. What you think a country dissolves when some foreign leader says "tear down that wall"? Don't be so naïve. We are in the financial mess we are in right now from two unnecessary and unwanted wars caused by the you-know-whos.

Yeah I remember the 80's, not so great economically. Things really didn't pick up until the 90's (the economy was humming during Clinton's term). And Reagan didn't end the U.S.S.R., he was just at the right place at the right time. What you think a country dissolves when some foreign leader says "tear down that wall"? Don't be so naïve. We are in the financial mess we are in right now from two unnecessary and unwanted wars caused by the you-know-whos.

Well Mr Jimmy, it didn't have anything to do with Reagan saying tear down that wall. Reagan beat them by building a military they went broke trying to keep up with! Things were great down here during the late 80's. They were great out in California too because there were all kinds of computer companies like apple and such that were able to get started and thrive under his economics and business friendly tax policies!

Yeah I remember the 80's, not so great economically. Things really didn't pick up until the 90's (the economy was humming during Clinton's term). And Reagan didn't end the U.S.S.R., he was just at the right place at the right time. What you think a country dissolves when some foreign leader says "tear down that wall"? Don't be so naïve. We are in the financial mess we are in right now from two unnecessary and unwanted wars caused by the you-know-whos.

While I think revisionists who try to paint Reagan as the saint who ended the Cold War are just full-of-shit, he DID actually play a role in Russia's undoing inadvertently.
Because of his belligerent jingoism and the threat of the Star Wars program (hmmm, whatever happened to THAT?) Mikhail Gorbachov was able to rise to a position of leadership and make structural changes.
It was Gorby who really ended the Cold War peacefully.
But, he couldn't have done it without Ronald Reagan being in position at the White House first.
No Reagan, no Gorbachov.
A bloody violent collapse of the Soviet Union without them together.

Yeah I remember the 80's, not so great economically. Things really didn't pick up until the 90's (the economy was humming during Clinton's term). And Reagan didn't end the U.S.S.R., he was just at the right place at the right time. What you think a country dissolves when some foreign leader says "tear down that wall"? Don't be so naïve. We are in the financial mess we are in right now from two unnecessary and unwanted wars caused by the you-know-whos.

While I think revisionists who try to paint Reagan as the saint who ended the Cold War are just full-of-sh*t, he DID actually play a role in Russia's undoing inadvertently.
Because of his belligerent jingoism and the threat of the Star Wars program (hmmm, whatever happened to THAT?) Mikhail Gorbachov was able to rise to a position of leadership and make structural changes.
It was Gorby who really ended the Cold War peacefully.
But, he couldn't have done it without Ronald Reagan being in position at the White House first.
No Reagan, no Gorbachov.
A bloody violent collapse of the Soviet Union without them together.

You sir are the revisionist! Smart but no common sense! Thats another pattern I am starting to see with you libs on this site. Your all HIGHLY intelligent, lacking common sense, feel like the world cheated you and its them RICH FOLKS fault!

Sorry the U.S.S.R. was on its way out for years, the cold war started a long time before Reagan. There was too much corruption at all levels of government for the system to be viable long term, which reminds me of something. If the Congress doesn't start learning to work together and get things done we will also be in big trouble (see also Party Of No, Obstructionism, Racism Masked As Politics).

Sorry the U.S.S.R. was on its way out for years, the cold war started a long time before Reagan. There was too much corruption at all levels of government for the system to be viable long term, which reminds me of something. If the Congress doesn't start learning to work together and get things done we will also be in big trouble (see also Party Of No, Obstructionism, Racism Masked As Politics).

OHhhh Brother!

Sorry the U.S.S.R. was on its way out for years, the cold war started a long time before Reagan. There was too much corruption at all levels of government for the system to be viable long term, which reminds me of something. If the Congress doesn't start learning to work together and get things done we will also be in big trouble (see also Party Of No, Obstructionism, Racism Masked As Politics).

Well, I'm not disagreeing that the communist system was already dying, regardless of who was in power, it could have gone down a LOT messier with different leadership.
The Russians today say that the Cold War began thawing the day that Josef Stalin died.
But, of course the whole system was unworkable over the long term, for a variety of reasons.

Yeah, USA is becoming USSA fast!
It won't be long before we join the Soviets in the graveyard.

I just read through this thread and watched some of you try and beat up my good buddy Haley and Slacker. I have been given a much greater understanding of the situations that some of you been left with. I have tremendous sympathy for any one suffering, and I truly wish I had an answer to the problems you pose... But I do have some worse ideas that many have NOT a clue about...

At this point in time we have a world with real sickos just waiting to pounce and eliminate many. How? With our nation being so strong????

All the Chinese have to do is stop accepting debt payment in treasury bonds.

In less then a day a gallon of gasoline will go to 30 bucks, your dollar will not be worth squat, and food and essentials (water) will disappear.

The only reason the Chinese have not done this yet is because they are waiting till we are all financially crippled, unable to take care of our own tired, poor ,and hungry.

I'm reading this thread, and all I see is selfishness, attack, and total lack of understanding that your freedom,,, is about to disappear.

Now as gross as this is,,, Why is F.E.M.A. stockpiling plastic coffins across the country?

New thread any one?

It is commonly believed that Reagan, by pushing missile defense, one upped our new friend Ivan who tried to keep up, thus destroying his economy and the whole rotten commie facade came down.

There is a smidgeon of truth in it but it also had repercussions for us as well. When the Bush assholes and that Clinton idiot decided to throw away the 'peace dividend' and expand the military our econoimy took another real hit. Brilliant huh?

Why does NATO still exist? Why are we pretending to be a European power? Who is the enemy?

If we had stopped playing cold war at the same time the soviets did this country would be booming. Instead we have an impoverished police state with imaginary enemies all over the place with multiple silly wars where there is no endgame defined.

The endgame gentlemen, may not be defined, But it can be deduced: war is itself the endgame.

God help us.

Talbot

It is commonly believed that Reagan, by pushing missile defense, one upped our new friend Ivan who tried to keep up, thus destroying his economy and the whole rotten commie facade came down.

There is a smidgeon of truth in it but it also had repercussions for us as well. When the Bush assholes and that Clinton idiot decided to throw away the 'peace dividend' and expand the military our econoimy took another real hit. Brilliant huh?

Why does NATO still exist? Why are we pretending to be a European power? Who is the enemy?

If we had stopped playing cold war at the same time the soviets did this country would be booming. Instead we have an impoverished police state with imaginary enemies all over the place with multiple silly wars where there is no endgame defined.

The endgame gentlemen, may not be defined, But it can be deduced: war is itself the endgame.

God help us.

Talbot

At least SOMEONE has been paying attention.