General Music Chat

I think its only in a rut if you accept that.

Lets face it, music has so many sub genres these days that something is available for almost anyones taste.

Someone of my age remembers when radio had Sly, Led Zep, Beatles and the Stones all on the same channel.

I dont think there will ever be bands like the Stones, Beatles or Zep again, music is too fragmented, plus those guys were able to mold thier images without interference, these days with technology your basic musicians look like dorks, not the Rock Gods they were in the late 60s thru the early 80s.

Hey it is what it is.

On the flip side anyone on here that wants to be heard can be heard worldwide in a matter of minutes thru things like youtube. So as far as being heard on a big scale things have never been better for musicians.

Your basic musicians look like dorks

I resemble that remark.

You guy's got me to feeling nostalgic and missing the GOOD OLE DAY's! Now I have that longing feeling Deep down in the pit of my stomach! Oh How I miss the 60's, 70's and 80's Oh that was just passing classical Gas!

These are the good old days.

These are the good old days.

Amen !

.Oh yea... There you will be...cursing and smacking your Ipod cause it got stuck on CULO for the hundreth time...and that's when it happens... You 'll start lecturing about it...You'll run to the mirror, see your self... and you'll say to your self...OMG! I have become all my old people.... heh heh! (Only a matter of time !)

I am an equal opportunity cell phone and ipod smasher.

If I am a true addict of anything, I am addicted to smashing your stolen iphones/ipods/cellphones and we even did a gps but I didn't get the same buzz I got from a cellphone.

My favorite is verizon cell phones, they really suck in this area.

(They make a much better rifle target) lol

That's funny.

Down here my Verizon gets bars where all my friends are out in the cold back nothing.

Scotty

I call satisfaction putting a punkin' ball (shotgun slug) through a spring wind up alarm clock. That was a blast and you should have seen the bits flying!

Talbot

The Music hasn't changed, the world has. There are too many people out there that want to be rock stars.

All of which in my opinion don't have any new or innovative ideas or concepts; not that I am saying I am the master of the missing elements, they are all cookie cutters, and that is the way it is going to be.

So many guys out there are just playing to get some tail, or playing to get prestige.

For one reason or another, there are seldom very many people that I have ran into that are doing it just to purely make something beautiful with music.

Now, I know what Jimmy Danger or his ilk might say about that comment. That music is different to everyone, and who am I to judge?.... and he would be right to say it.

It still doesn't change the fact that music and business don't mix well. HELL, there are companies out there RIGHT NOW making millions off of poor saps that are fooled into thinking they are going to be big rockstars someday, when in reality, their chances are better of winning the lottery.

But they are out there,... playing those cookie cutter songs, and I applaud their effort, but am pissed at someone taking advantage of it.


... Sad.....


I invite you to be innovative, and write a piece so uncontrolled and outside what you even consider music, and do it by yourself in your basement with no one watching or listening.

... and never let anyone else hear it ever.


But pull out your cookie cutters for the close minded when needed.


I am talking too much....

The Music hasn't changed, the world has. There are too many people out there that want to be rock stars.

All of which in my opinion don't have any new or innovative ideas or concepts; not that I am saying I am the master of the missing elements, they are all cookie cutters, and that is the way it is going to be.

So many guys out there are just playing to get some tail, or playing to get prestige.

For one reason or another, there are seldom very many people that I have ran into that are doing it just to purely make something beautiful with music.

Now, I know what Jimmy Danger or his ilk might say about that comment. That music is different to everyone, and who am I to judge?.... and he would be right to say it.

It still doesn't change the fact that music and business don't mix well. HELL, there are companies out there RIGHT NOW making millions off of poor saps that are fooled into thinking they are going to be big rockstars someday, when in reality, their chances are better of winning the lottery.

But they are out there,... playing those cookie cutter songs, and I applaud their effort, but am pissed at someone taking advantage of it.


... Sad.....


I invite you to be innovative, and write a piece so uncontrolled and outside what you even consider music, and do it by yourself in your basement with no one watching or listening.

... and never let anyone else hear it ever.


But pull out your cookie cutters for the close minded when needed.


I am talking too much....

The last time I was singing, uncontrolled, and nobody watching, in the basement... I realized that I was in the basement...because of my singing... hee hee...

But seriously, I don't think ALL business is foreboding for music... Lets face it... I want to get paid for what I do... Especially, if I'm being asked to do what is unnatural to my typical style of creation, (but yet... I successfully deliver it....)

There is an assumption that all consumers of music are connoisseurs. This simply is not true. A majority (90%) of the market of consumers are idiots about it...which is why we don't see any more musicians offering themselves up for crucifiction (Like they did in the 60's) in this industry.

You can be as creative as you need to be... Trip the Light-Fantastic with it...but at the end of the day, a fella needs to get paid. The trouble today is that the industry is paying all the wrong people. I call that "Bad business" If we take out the Bad business, then the good Business and music can work harmoniously..

How do you propose we "take out the bad business"? Seems to me the club owners and their patrons decide who plays where.

The Music hasn't changed, the world has. There are too many people out there that want to be rock stars.

All of which in my opinion don't have any new or innovative ideas or concepts; not that I am saying I am the master of the missing elements, they are all cookie cutters, and that is the way it is going to be.

So many guys out there are just playing to get some tail, or playing to get prestige.

For one reason or another, there are seldom very many people that I have ran into that are doing it just to purely make something beautiful with music.

Now, I know what Jimmy Danger or his ilk might say about that comment. That music is different to everyone, and who am I to judge?.... and he would be right to say it.

It still doesn't change the fact that music and business don't mix well. HELL, there are companies out there RIGHT NOW making millions off of poor saps that are fooled into thinking they are going to be big rockstars someday, when in reality, their chances are better of winning the lottery.

But they are out there,... playing those cookie cutter songs, and I applaud their effort, but am pissed at someone taking advantage of it.


... Sad.....


I invite you to be innovative, and write a piece so uncontrolled and outside what you even consider music, and do it by yourself in your basement with no one watching or listening.

... and never let anyone else hear it ever.


But pull out your cookie cutters for the close minded when needed.


I am talking too much....

The last time I was singing, uncontrolled, and nobody watching, in the basement... I realized that I was in the basement...because of my singing... hee hee...

But seriously, I don't think ALL business is foreboding for music... Lets face it... I want to get paid for what I do... Especially, if I'm being asked to do what is unnatural to my typical style of creation, (but yet... I successfully deliver it....)

There is an assumption that all consumers of music are connoisseurs. This simply is not true. A majority (90%) of the market of consumers are idiots about it...which is why we don't see any more musicians offering themselves up for crucifiction (Like they did in the 60's) in this industry.

You can be as creative as you need to be... Trip the Light-Fantastic with it...but at the end of the day, a fella needs to get paid. The trouble today is that the industry is paying all the wrong people. I call that "Bad business" If we take out the Bad business, then the good Business and music can work harmoniously..

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I agree with you, but the things is, you can't take the "bad" out of business. Business ethics is an oxymoron. Who gets paid at the clubs? People that can put people in the seats and sell the most alcohol, or who brings the most women to a bar.

Beautiful women are GREAT for business. It brings men, that buy drinks for them, AND for themselves. BESIDES, how many guys do you know that would strike out AFTER buying her the drink? THEN comes Drink #2 bought and paid for by the next batter up. That is double and triple the profits right there, because the second guy is waiting for this next pitch.

So, to be successful as a paid musician in a "club", your charisma is the main talent, not the ability with your music, although, I should hope you have that too. lol.

You have to have charisma to bring people to a show, period, OR pay someone that does..... enter stage left.... the agent, or manager, or promotions team, or street team....

I AM NOT SAYING THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY CLUBS ARE EVIL OR BAD, OR EVEN UNTALENTED.

I am just saying that music is much more fulfilling FOR ME when I don't share it, and when I have complete creative control.

Please don't take my words to mean that no one should ever play a club again, I am sorry if it came out that way. That isn't want I meant. I was just trying to imply, that if the "club scene" is getting too frustrating, revert back to your roots, and remember music in its bare form. To make YOU feel better. For YOU to express what you are feeling. Otherwise, one might think you could lose touch with your ability to create.

The Music hasn't changed, the world has. There are too many people out there that want to be rock stars.

All of which in my opinion don't have any new or innovative ideas or concepts; not that I am saying I am the master of the missing elements, they are all cookie cutters, and that is the way it is going to be.

So many guys out there are just playing to get some tail, or playing to get prestige.

For one reason or another, there are seldom very many people that I have ran into that are doing it just to purely make something beautiful with music.

Now, I know what Jimmy Danger or his ilk might say about that comment. That music is different to everyone, and who am I to judge?.... and he would be right to say it.

It still doesn't change the fact that music and business don't mix well. HELL, there are companies out there RIGHT NOW making millions off of poor saps that are fooled into thinking they are going to be big rockstars someday, when in reality, their chances are better of winning the lottery.

But they are out there,... playing those cookie cutter songs, and I applaud their effort, but am pissed at someone taking advantage of it.


... Sad.....


I invite you to be innovative, and write a piece so uncontrolled and outside what you even consider music, and do it by yourself in your basement with no one watching or listening.

... and never let anyone else hear it ever.


But pull out your cookie cutters for the close minded when needed.


I am talking too much....

just for you

The Music hasn't changed, the world has. There are too many people out there that want to be rock stars.

All of which in my opinion don't have any new or innovative ideas or concepts; not that I am saying I am the master of the missing elements, they are all cookie cutters, and that is the way it is going to be.

So many guys out there are just playing to get some tail, or playing to get prestige.

For one reason or another, there are seldom very many people that I have ran into that are doing it just to purely make something beautiful with music.

Now, I know what Jimmy Danger or his ilk might say about that comment. That music is different to everyone, and who am I to judge?.... and he would be right to say it.

It still doesn't change the fact that music and business don't mix well. HELL, there are companies out there RIGHT NOW making millions off of poor saps that are fooled into thinking they are going to be big rockstars someday, when in reality, their chances are better of winning the lottery.

But they are out there,... playing those cookie cutter songs, and I applaud their effort, but am pissed at someone taking advantage of it.


... Sad.....


I invite you to be innovative, and write a piece so uncontrolled and outside what you even consider music, and do it by yourself in your basement with no one watching or listening.

... and never let anyone else hear it ever.


But pull out your cookie cutters for the close minded when needed.


I am talking too much....

just for you

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Really interesting, complete chaos really, but not something I liked too much. I am sure J. Christopher loves it for whatever reason, and I am glad he does.