General Music Chat

George, DOUGH! upper right hand corner Huh! I tried that and it put up his entire post but I guess I could have deleted all but that one line. Man do I feel like a big Dummy LMAO!

To do IEMs for the entire band, you need a monitor mixer with enough distinct mixes to satisfy every player in the band, and everything needs to be mic'ed or go direct into that mixer.

So if your guitarist is insistent that he needs two 4x12 cabinets to get 'his tone' then you're fighting a losing battle.

Also, doing it right isn't a simple or cheap proposal; it's not just slapping some earphones in and turning a few volume knobs; EQ, limiting, and lots of trial and error (unless you have a dedicated monitor engineer)

It is really not that hard Prevost I have been using them for 10 years in my p.a. (which by the way is setting in the trailer in my garage) possibly never to be used again I have 6 Aux sends of which 3 effects processors use up 3 of the Aux sends that leaves me 3 Aux sends. Now the I.E.M. units today are stereo that means they are basically 2 units in one. So if you buy 1 I.E.M. Transmitter and two recievers you can send 2 seperate monitor mixes from 2 of those Aux. sends now you have 1 Aux. send left. You can buy another Transmitter and send that final Aux. monitor mix to that transmitter and use as many recievers as you like for the remaining musicians in your band and surely with 3 monitor mixes and 2 transmitters. You can make everyone happy with a monitor mix. Now I am going to guestimate prices here but lets compare

2 carvin IEM units @ $399.00 each (they come with earbuds and reciever packs)
2 more reciever packs $139.00 each
2 more earbuds $130.00 each
That totals $1336.00 for 4 individual monitor mixes.

4 Yamaha floor monitors $229.00 each
1 1000 PLX power amp $800.00 each
speaker cables $150.00 all together
That totals $1866.00 for four indivudual monitor mixes. I did not go online and check any of these prices but I know they are close. It really cost more than this because you would need more power amps for 4 seperate monitor mixes. At least 2 stereo

As I said in my earlier post This is a NO BRAINER FOLKS! and the beauty is that with all of these mixes once you get them set thats it. Just turn on your p.a. make sure you are getting a signal from each mike and play NO FEEDBACK in your monitors because there are no speakers to create the loop thru the mikes and just use the e.q. setting that comes off the board trust me it is WAY better than all of that gobblety goop you get with them heavy ass speakers and frequencies masking each other on stage and get this if it feels to isolated then pull out one earbud (imagine that) thats what I do all throughout the night I will pull one out and then later put it back in If my eardrums start to get compressed. Just pop one for christ sake!

Hey Haley ... I just stating that unless you know how to set them up and run them they can be a pain. You sound like you know what you are doing.

I've had a few bad expr. with them ... from pro sound techs ...
Having said that they work great if they are setup right

Just sending out a caution that they can have problems if not done right

I own Galaxy ear monitor and as a singer it brings
me to another level vocally. When floor monitors
get too loud in your face you will try to over power them
vocally so you can hear yourself. You can blow yourself
out very quickly.

Wireless gives you mobility too. Being able to personally
adjust my volume is priceless to me. A vocalist needs to
adjust for sutle and up tempo and only he or she can feel
the right setting.

Mine was $650.

No prob. Prevost that is one of the cons I left out.
Klug and any others interested, another cool tidbit of info. about I.E.M.'s a friend has a program I believe he got from Shure. It has test tones all the way up the e.q. spectrum. This program allows you to custom taylor the e.q. settings on your individual unit and earbuds. Underneath the tone frequency there is a fader. It gives you about 15 seconds on each tone to get the fader set. You go thru that a few times leveling them out. Then write down or print out the tone frequency's you just set. Now you can tell the soundtech or do it yourself if you are the tech and your unit is custom taylored to your individual hearing. You would not believe the dif. this makes in your monitor sound. Its kind of the same thing they would do to test your hearing when you were a kid in school. You now have the frequency levels listed at which your individual hearig has a deficit. Its really like an eyeglass prescription for your hearing!

good info. JH.

Thanks