General Music Chat

To tell you the truth.. And I'm not trying to get a rise out of people. But I hate Country music. My whole family is very aware of it. It doesn't mean that I don't think Country musicians are talented. There are Country guitar players who can wipe the floor with my playing.

But the LYRICS!! Holy good God can they be awful!!

What about line dancing? How is it any different than the Macarena or the Hokey Pokey? I mean seriously..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpZ9bchCJw

That video is so wrong on so many levels.. You couldn't get me outta there fast enough. Achy Breaky Heart ?? Please. Gay.

But hey.. County music does have it's roots. Here's a classic for ya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCiGAuv ... re=related

I love it when Country music people bring up their roots. There you go man. Nanners and peanuts and coconut trees.. Cherish your roots.

Just shoot me now.. I don't see how the music has evolved very much from that though. I really don't. If that song came out for the first time today, it would be a Country hit.

Oh man, when I heard that "Little Bitty" song... Just pull the trigger if I ever make it through the whole thing. My alarm clock went off one morning and I accidentally set it to radio-wake-up and that song woke me up.. I took the clock and shattered it to pieces throwing against the wall as hard as I could. I was soo pissed at the gayness I woke up to.

Country music lovers have NO argument against whining or nasally singing. NONE!! As in NOT ONE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2aNifcy20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-o8wjOExAs

I'm not saying those guys can't sing. But Country music PRIDES itself on the nasally whining. That's what makes the style what it is. Even musically. Whining fiddles and whining lap steel guitars.. It's SO whinny as a whole, that I just can't stomach it. It's actually more depressing than emo music to me.

My version of Hell would be having to listen to that Nanner song for eternity.

Just keep in mind.. That's my view on Country music. It's nothing new to the people who know me. I grew up having to listen to it. Think I'm bulls**tting?



That's a pic of me when I was a kid. Even though my favorite band was KISS, the country lifestyle was constantly being pushed in my direction. When I finally did get a guitar.. I had to hear "do you know any Country?" 50,000,000 times. Nope. But I learned all of Back in Black. Wanna hear Hells Bells?

Not a snow-ball's chance in hell would I ever be a Country musician. It won't happen. I'd sell all my gear before I'd ever do it.

Wanna have a lyric war?? I'm thinking Country would win out over emo. The lyrics can be more emo than emo is. And it's just as whiny and nasally if not more.

rykykay86, I'm sure you're gonna see this as an attack on you. But from what I can see, you're into blues and Grunge stuff. But you need to realize that there is a lot of awful stuff that happens in every genre. No genre is immune to being ridiculed in a lot of ways. EVERY genre has it's "Nanners" and "Itty Bitty's" here and there.

Don't make me bust out the Conway Twitty.

For the record, there are even some songs that we play in our band that I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if I never played them again. Even Reggae has it's draw-backs.

I'll make you a deal.. I won't bust out the Conway Twitty if you don't bust out the Poison.. Deal??

Shredd,

That was the funniest sh*t ever dude!

I've never been a country guy either. Probably cause I grew up during the "disco sucks" era, when hard rock was taking off. It was rock and roll for me, and most of my friends too.

I'm not as bad as you though. I actually enjoy some country when I listen to it, but I have never bought a country album, and I don't turn the dial to country stations. But... when I go to a place and there is a country band there, or I was turning the dial and it landed on a country song, and I wasn't fast enough to change it, I find myself leaving it on ocassionally. Some country is too contageous, and it can trap you if you aren't careful. LOL

But whiny steel guitars, and whiny voices because of the nasal sounds... you're right. Never thought of that. LMAO!

But at least country is more flexible than screamo. And I am talking exclusively about the SCREAMING when I talk about screamo. Alot of the musicianship UNDERNEATH the damn screaming is SICK! There are some really good musicians in screamo music. What SUCKS is that I don't get to hear them much, cause there is someone SCREAMING all over the top of it! It's like trying to enjoy Jimi Hendrix or SRV with a jackhammer going off louder and without ceasing.

But going back to Country music, just remember...

We are in the minority. The top selling solo-artist in U.S. history is Garth Brooks. While sales of other genres have ALL declined over the last few years, Country music sales have increased more than 17%.

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You just don't stop. lol

You just don't stop. lol

Ryan, it's past your bedtime!



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I don't want to piss you off Ryan. I'm not going to dwell on this. I haven't bashed screamo here for a year or more I think.

You are very good at it.

I have actually seen ALOT of screamers live. You are better than any of the ones I have seen.

Follow your heart, but keep it open.

How you feel and think in your 20's will not be how you feel and think in your 30's, and this will change again in your 40's most likely. Some things will stick with you, but others you will revise and rethink.

I was gung-ho and fearless when I was your age too. I thought I knew more than I did then too. And I believed in things with a passion, and like you, was very black and white about issues. I was a very staunch conservative when I was younger (I consider myself a moderate now) to the point that I listened to Rush every day on radio, I believed Democrats were evil, against God and destroying the country, and Republicans were the patriots who supported our troops.

Then I discovered that it was likely that Reagan/Bush had made a secret deal with Iran to delay releasing the hostages, so as not to boost Carter's chances of a resurgence in the election. Look up "October Surprise" - If true, this is a criminal offense, and should be punishable by a firing squad, because those who were aware and authorized it are traitors. And they went to it again, when they traded arms for hostages a few years later. Reagan, who at first denied this, later went on TV and admitted it, when evidence came out proving it was true. Some of the money was used to finance a covert war being fought by the Contras in Nicaragua which is why it is called the Iran/Contra scandal. 11 Reagan Administration officials were CONVICTED of crimes. But of course, Bush pardoned ALL OF THEM, in the last days of his single term as President.

There are no honest politicians that high up.

I don't care what party they belong to.

I also realized the more I looked EVERYWHERE for truth, that Democrats worked toward many good and noble things, that Republicans would NEVER have championed (like Civil Rights for minorities). And some they still don't. Like equal rights for homosexuals, which are still denied.

So, things are not always as neatly cut and dry, or black and white as me might assume them to be, when we are younger, idealistic and still very naive.

I like you Ryan.

I just wish the best for you.

And for you not to have to go through the same disollutionments that most of us who have been around the block have had to go through.

I'm not trying to beat up on you. I'm just trying to save you some heartache, embarrassment or maybe just some wasted years.
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My name is Philby, & I'm a "Neil Sedaka hater."

I first started hating Neil Sedaka in short bursts on my little Japanese transistor radio, when I heard things like "Where The Boys Are," a Connie Francis hit. I had no idea that this was just a "gateway hatred," at the time. I just didn't like the song. But it was a hatred that slowly grew through such songs as "Oh Carol," "Calender Girl," & "Happy Birthday Sweet 16."

This hatred then became an all-encompassing thing, snowballing out of control when I first heard "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do." I was just a young lil chap at the time, & didn't know what I was doing, in my defense.

The evil radio DJ pushers kept hitting me with the stuff.

After awhile, I was hating on him without even knowing I was hating on him, it just seemed so natural. When The Capt & Tenille released "Love Will Keep Us Together," my hatred had grown to the point that it seemed I would need chronic tranquilizer therapy (CTT) if things didn't abate for me.

Then, things started to calm down a bit. The radio stations I turned to weren't playing that tripe anymore, & it seemed I could go back to my regularly scheduled programming without steam coming out of my ears, without my fists involuntarilly clenching in uncontrollable loathing, & that hard little lump in my heart, that little black evil cancerous rock of rage within me began to soften, to take on more human proportions.

Those were happy years for me, free from that epilleptogenic voice, those syrupy sweet lyrics, those mundane yet catchy hooks that get in one's head & won't let you go until you scream out in seething anger & grab something, ANYthing, &...&...oh...sorry...where was I? Oh yes....happy years! They were great. I listened to more complex music, better singers, more heterosexual melodies, more interesting rhythms. Things were really looking up for me. It seemed that I really could live that more normal lifestyle, free from the all-encompassing rage that I had been suffering from for all those many years.

Now, I find that I've relapsed. It seems that every time I turn on a tv, I hear "comma comma down doobie-doo down down," the harbinger of the dreaded "Breaking Up Is Hard To Do," or a Tenille wannabe warbling about "Love Will Keep Us Together," & my rage has returned a hundred-fold! He's EVERYWHERE! He's in our frikken COMMERCIALS! HE WON'T GO AWAY!!!! They're even using these songs for erectile dysfunction drugs, ppl! AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaargh! There's NOTHING that can take the lead out of a pencil like Neil Sedaka! I can't even MASTURBATE anymore! He's back, & he's destroying my life!

God help me!

That was the best thing I ever read from you, Shredd.

F*** Country + Western, if they love it, let them keep it!

LMAO @ Phil




Hey, how could you mention Capt and Tenille and leave out "Muskrat Love"????

LOL

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peepee.

I PERFORM METAL!

You're too young to remember "Metal".

"Metal" is not what you're doing.

You're doing a sub-genre that you call "Death Metal" (I call it losing your lunch, but that's just semantics).


Metal is classic: Iron Maiden, Anvil, Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeath. Those guys sang. Something I'd like to hear you try sometime. Even Mikael Åkerfeldt has learned how to sing properly.

I DONT LIKE SCREAMO, I PERFORM METAL! GET IT RIGHT!

What you do, grasshopper, is not "Metal".

Maybe "Death Metal" but not "Metal"

Metal, also known as "Heavy Metal" originated back in the 60's and 70's and is NOT marked by growling, grunting, cookie monster-style vocals!

Death Metal however, "IS" marked by cookie-monster vocals.

You are correct in the INSTRUMENTAL difference between traditonal screamo (traditional... ha ha) and Death Metal however. Death Metal grew out of real Metal music, whereas Screamo grew out of Emo, and has sometimes been referred to as "Emo Violence" (true story)

Of course, whenever Emo is brought up, it reminds me of this skit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk




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cookie monster-style vocals!

LOL! Craig, I like that better than my moniker. That's perfect.

Cookie-Monster Metal!

We have a winner!

LOL! Craig, I like that better than my moniker. That's perfect.

Cookie-Monster Metal!

We have a winner!

LOL

OMG... You got me thinking we should make a video using cookie-monster footage set to some screamer vocals, so I looked up some videos of cookie monster on YouTube, and this came up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWac5UT80no


WTF!!! LOL

Poor Ryan!


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LMAO...

Muppet "Death Metal" band....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKGiOY72ru4


Watch at least until 1:30 to see Animal's Drum work!

LOL

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Craig, "Muskrat Love" is only one more reason that I HATE America (the band, not the country). Besides, that wasn't a Neil Sedaka song.