General Music Chat

Is Wesley Snipes a smoker? lol

I know they were calling him, "Wesley Pipes", but I thought it was a joke!

Oh, my bad.

We were talking about the I.R.S. being abolished, and Nelson has had big tax problems before, so I thought you were talking taxes and I.R.S. LOL

Shows how much sleep I've been getting lately.

Just move to California and get a "prescription" for it, for God's sake!!!

If we violated our taxes like these guys do, we would be in jail for 15 years or more a piece, lol.

Stupid corrupt government and judicial system, everything for the rich and famous, and nothing for the average man.

That's why I'm not for abolition of the IRS - I'm for it's more just administration, and for the super-rich to stop skating from their obligation with the help of legal loopholes.

Ron Paul also had a bit of a problem with that racist newsletter he used to put out...that when called on it, he wanted to blame on his "ghost writer". Odd, because even when someone has a ghost writer they are responsible for the content.

That is when RP became revealed to me as a bit of a racist coward.

Didn't know about that one. When did this happen?

It was in 1995, when RP had this newsletter.

This is a fairly good run down on it ->
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/ ... wsletters/

I pay taxes as Vinny and Rocco do side jobs for the IRS. LOL

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Edwards & Obama Meeting...

What Really Happened?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysfmqCUv_1Q

AP: John McCain accused of having an affair!

Read all about it!:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 408463.ece

Enjoy, or just go on google and punch it in if that article is not specific enough.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

How about a flat tax? Every individual and business pays ten cents on the dollar no matter how its earned. Include the Churchs, no not for profit or foundation crap either if your dollar earns a dollar you pay a dime. With the exception of Personal savings interest for private healthcare and retirement accounts. What do you think? My 80 yr old father believes the only "fair tax" is a universal sales tax. In as much as if you spend a dolar you pay a dime. Oh I think cheaten on your wife is BS. But its hard for me to stone a man for wantin some poontang. Just dont fregin lie about it. Clinton should have told Congress "Oh yea, and it was good to!"

"Flat Tax" isn't as fair as it sounds. Paying 20% of your income in taxes will certainly not impact the lifestyle or survivability of a very rich person, whereas it can sink a poor or "working poor" person.

The UST (Universal Sales Tax) is a great idea on paper but I have not seen a single economist of note say it's doable in the real world.

The best solution we have at present is to tighten up the current code and stop giving the rich and superrich so many passes on paying their taxes. Once we get the filthy corrupt Bush cabal out of office, we can work on that.

AP: John McCain accused of having an affair!

Read all about it!:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 408463.ece

Enjoy, or just go on google and punch it in if that article is not specific enough.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

The accussation of an affair is not the serious issue. The serious issue, is that the woman in question is a lobbyist, and that brings up questions of whether favoritism was shown to the company she lobbied for. For the record, both McCain and the woman adamently deny there was ever a romantic involvement, and I believe someone had a story showing 12 instances where McCain voted against the interests of the particular company in question. McCain claims that in his entire political career he has NEVER done anything unhonarable or to betray the trust of the American people. Strong statement.

So, we'll see.

Unfortunately, the accussation is usually enough in itself, to cast doubt on people in the public eye.

And fair is fair....

What do you think about Obama's wife claiming that in all her life, this (the election campaign) is the FIRST time she was ever proud to be an American?

I'm willing to bet alot of misguided ultra-liberals feel the same way, but usually are smart enough not to say it publicly.

She is in her 40's, and not one time in her life was she EVER proud to be an American? Not when the Berlin wall fell? Not when brave firefighters ran up the towers on 9-11? Wow. How many moments were there, that she could have been proud to be an American in 40+ years of being one?

Very telling indeed.

Yeah, I know what you mean, Craig. It is insane this whole thing, who knows who is telling the truth. I do not like that the newspapers are getting involved and showing biased, it is bad enough the news stations do it, now the papers, great, just what everyone needed. Thus, I am not happy with the New York Times.

I hate this election, it is nutty. These candidates are annoying, lol.

I personally feel McCain is probably guilty of something in there (Just an assumption), I do not trust his word in this case. But I could be wrong, who knows. We have to wait till either more evidence comes out, or someone admits to it. Till then it is not fair to say he is guilty, not enough proof.

So yeah.

As for the whole thing with Barrack Obama's wife... I think that was wrong what she said, it was not right. Of course there are times to be proud of this country in her 40 years, especially 9/11, many men died then, as you pointed out, Craig.

So our views are not too far apart in this situation.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

For Mr McCain to attempt to push through congress an amnesty bill for illegal imigrants. Key word "illegal" Was enough to turn me against him. Not to mention that anti First amendment drivil they called election reform.
Here is what I feel really needs to occure. I do not believe that any positive changes for our country can come from either of our current Big Two parties. I feel the same vein of corruption runs deep in both the Dems and Repubs. Untill a third party that is favorable to people whom primarilly are on opposite side of the political spectrum yet agree on the constatutional basics of our form of government becomes prevalent enough to win or at least challenge in an election. It's gonna be business as usual in Washington. We The People are going to have to elect" we the people" not them the rich polaticians to all offices from the local school board right up to the President. No one can be everything to all people but some common ground must be found. And the elimination of self serving Polaticians is a good place to start.

I personally feel McCain is probably guilty of something in there (Just an assumption)

It is very possibly a reasonable assumption. Yes, completely unfounded charges are leveled at people for political reasons, but in my experience, there is usually some element of truth to the charges. Clearly he has been guilty of affairs before, so it is not unreasonable to assume he didn't learn his lessons from his first marriage. If he showed bias for the company that she lobbied for, that is a much more serious issue, and probably criminal.

I really hope that is not the case. But I learned long ago, not to place much trust in ANY politician, no matter how good they appear.

Politics is a dirty business, and power corrupts.

For Mr McCain to attempt to push through congress an amnesty bill for illegal imigrants. Key word "illegal" Was enough to turn me against him.

This sounds much worse than it is bro.

For decades and decades, illegal immigration was WELCOMED in this country, with a "don't ask don't tell" kind of mentality. 9-11 has changed those priorities.

The problem is, that, even though illegal, many, well most really, of these people have bolstered the economy, they have contributed to American businesses as consumers, renting homes, paying electric bills, buying automobiles and food, and furniture etc... They have sometimes done this for years, and even a decade or more. They have built up lives here, and had children born here. It is heartless, to just seize their property and thrown them out, like trash.

Also, consider, that under zero-tolerance policies, a soldier could have been engaged and maybe even married to a foreign national, who shared his home with him, maybe even had a child with him. He dies in Iraq, and the paper-work, which can take years, has not gone through, and she suddenly loses everything, and is sent back to her country? The children born here, as far as I know, are still American citizens, but their parents may not be. Theoretically, the parents can be sent back and the children be made wards of the state. Or do we send back the children with them, essentially banishing American citizens who, through no fault of their own, were born on our soil?

McCain preaches that we are a country that must maintain sovereignty, and protect our borders, but for many people that have been here, and built up lives over many years, contributing to our country's well-being, that we are not a heartless people. These are God's children too, and there must be a fair and reasonable way, to deal with special cases, of illegal immigrants here.

I think that is a reasonable approach to this issue. Extremism is ususally wrong, whichever way it shows itself. The liberal extreme is almost to let anyone cross our borders unchecked and grant them some form of legal status, let illegals vote in elections, etc... That is irrational. But so is it wrong, on the conservative extreme, of banishing everyone from this country, no matter how long they have been here, how much they have contributed, or whether they had children born here.

There should be a reasonable balance. And I think McCain is trying to find that happy medium.

Craig, I did not even know that McCain had past issues with this - even more reason for me to think he is guilty.

I agree completely, politics is a dirty business, and none of these people should be trusted. They are all liars and cheats.

As far as immigration is concerned, that is a confusing subject. I think we should make the people here now citizens, and if they have any criminal backgrounds here or in their country they should be deported (Basically I agree with what the Democrats have said on the issue). It is the worst though, as you were saying, when it comes to the children. The children are American citizens (As long as they were born here), even if the parents are not, and you cannot divide them up like Lego bricks. So yes, this is a rough spot to be in and it requires some form of equilibrium, that of which we may not be smart enough to even come up with - it is completely up to the politicians.

Let us just hope that whichever one of these insipid, narrow minded, stupid people gets in, that they do the right thing.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.