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#21905 by gbheil
Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:50 pm
I am an RN, Have been since 95. Presently Charge Nurse in an ortho rehab unit two 16 hr shifts on Sat & Sun. Ive done that mgmt thing it sucks. I love the way an administration will set a 100% profit gain expectation then when it only increases by 95% they tell the staff that they are losing money. Our world is rife with liars and theves, and I still say Free interprise with its natural ebb and flow is the best system in our inperfect world. like a river it will have draught and flood. And No GA I dont mind,you may ask me all you like about my profession.

#21906 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:59 pm
sanshouheil wrote:I am an RN, Have been since 95. Presently Charge Nurse in an ortho rehab unit two 16 hr shifts on Sat & Sun. Ive done that mgmt thing it sucks. I love the way an administration will set a 100% profit gain expectation then when it only increases by 95% they tell the staff that they are losing money. Our world is rife with liars and theves, and I still say Free interprise with its natural ebb and flow is the best system in our inperfect world. like a river it will have draught and flood. And No GA I dont mind,you may ask me all you like about my profession.



Thanks. I am not familiar with this "Free Interprise" system that you are talking about, or maybe I am and just do not know it by that term.

I think hospitals and places like that are insane. My aunt had open heart surgery and the doctor gets $150,000 just for one operation... Dang, lol. I mean they are worth a lot of money, they are saving your life. But, wow, that is a ton. I like how some of them refuse to do it if you do not pay them through insurance, talk about a cold son of a bitch of a person.

Yeah, I was thinking about taking my associate-bachelors in nursing and then going to med-school. Becoming an RN is the only way to make any money as a nurse, in my opinion at least. The LPN's do all of the dirty (Bed pans, diapering, disposal of urine, etc...) work and seem to have awfully low salaries. Note though, feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything, I am definitely no expert on this, this is just what I have seen and heard.

I am still considered an entry level medical transcriptionist to my knowledge, I have only been doing it 8 months I think. I am not bad at it though, it is a good field. I like working in medicine, but it does not pay much at the moment. It will take me some time to work myself up to a normal pay scale.

All and all I think working in the medical field is an amazing thing and well worth all of that time studying. I love medicine and it is something I cannot wait to completely get into. That is why I took this job, it is like a stepping stone for me. It gets me in the door without having my degree yet.

The only thing that kills with being an RN or LPN, or doctor (Especially trauma surgeon or ER doctor), is the hours. As you said, you have two 16 hour shifts, ouch. That can really break the mind from exhaustion.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#21907 by gbheil
Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:35 pm
GA In most hospital settings the RN and LPN or LVN as they are known in Texas do the same work. I assure you I spend much more time doing spit-n-shit than makeing life saving decisions. I also serve meals make coffee and tea take out the trash, and thanks to UNCY SAM I do a butt load of useless paperwork so someone else gets paid. I am held responsable for what I do, for what the MD does, for what the Aide does, for what the dietary department does. For what the Patient or their family does. Hell if someone farts out on the street the Nurse can find themselfs in court over it. The MD and the Administration will scape goat your ass in a heart beat. But some times I can actually help reasonable and responsable people live better. That makes me feel good!
Free enterprise basiclly is allowing the market demand to control the flow of goods and services without regulation from the outside ie the GOV.
Example if a gallon of gas is $4.00 and you dont like it ,dont buy it. when enough people say enough is enough the price will self adjust.

#21908 by Starfish Scott
Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:45 pm
LOL The last guy I knew who was talking about "free enterprise" was selling the kind of dilithium crystals you snort up your nose.


EEEeeeeKkkkk lol We Captains do not do that sheet.

You want to run it in the hyper drive so we can get to Alpha Centuri, fine. You want to be recreational and sniff it, NOT OK. BAAAAAAD KLINGON!!!!!

#21910 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:49 pm
That is fascinating, because in the hospitals down here the LPN's seem to get more of the dirty work than the RN's (At least from my perspective of being in them). The RN's only seem to come in for injections, blood transfusions, and the more serious natured work. But I was not in these hospitals all of the time, so it may just be what I saw while I was in them those times.

It must be hard doing that kind of work, I think it would drive me nuts after a while - even though I have contemplated pursuing the field as a second stepping stone toward becoming a doctor. I know how serious it is working in this profession. As a transcriptionist we are sworn to the HIPAA laws, if we violate them we are in serious trouble. I take my work very seriously and hold firm to that law.

I understand now what Free Enterprise is. I would have to do more in depth research into it, but from the basic premises that you have described to me it does seem like a reasonable policy.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#21919 by gbheil
Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:11 pm
Different hospital systems use different modalaties. I'm not trying to disuade you. We need good medical professionals. good luck.

#21920 by Starfish Scott
Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:13 pm
FEH socalized medicine is the way to go. That way we can weed out all the greedy medical practioners. I wish you couldn't take the hippocratic oath unless you were seriously interested in helping people.

#21922 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:21 pm
Sanshouheil, I am not dissuaded, lol. I still want to go into the field. It is true, medical professionals are lacking nowadays. I use to hear about it on the news all of the time. I have known a doctor and a professor who have tried pushing me to get my degree because of this.

So yeah, I am going into medicine no matter what, and no matter what it takes.

Captain Scott, I agree, doctors who take the oath and then turn around and break it (And get away with it), should not be allowed to take it period. Stupid society we live in.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#21925 by gbheil
Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:30 pm
Yes you are absalutly right we should socalize medicine, I would love to place my health / life in the hands of some poor bastard with no control over where he works or how much he gets paid to do it. Sounds like the postal service to me, cant fire those dorks no matter how much they screw up. That will work good in the hospital setting as well. Oh and the Nurses and Doctors who really care about quaility, They will quit medicine all together, that should improve your healthcare emensly. Want to see socialized medicine at work Visit a VA hospital. Talk about third world.

#21935 by jw123
Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:28 pm
GA,

I just saw your post. Im sorry about your mother. I hope she can somehow get the help she needs.

SANS,

I saw your comment about millionaire board members. My father served as a board member locally for years. They gave him a yearly trip and ussually gave my mother a nice piece of crystal every year for Christmas. One benefit he had was the pleasure of enduring a 10 yr lawsuit from a doctor who wasnt allowed to do surgery he wasnt quailified to do. I hear you on the responsibilitys that you have but the buck doesnt stop there it goes all the way to the top when something goes wrong.

I agree with you in your analogy "socialized medicine". USSA United Socialist States of America, kind of has a ring to it doesnt it.

On the other hand the US is a great place to live, just look how many people are just dieng to get in here.

#21937 by Irminsul
Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:53 pm
sanshouheil wrote:....Liberals want to enjoy the rights they are afraid to defend. But they dont want anyone else to enjoy rights just them. Thats why they (in general ) Do not support the Military that keeps them free. Support the murder of unborn children. Want to have armed gaurd surronding them at all times but dont want other to be able to defend themselves. Want to have free health care. (nothing is free). Want me to walk to work while they fly around on private jets talking bullshit about carbon footprints. Believe or simply for monitary gain propigate the lie that the reason earths climite is changing is due to man. I say why dont we set the whole damn world free and allow each man to make his own choices and the make him responsable for that choice. Naw Its allways someone elses fault. Back in 76 the same bunch of faggots were saying we were going into an ice age everybody panic and vote for me.


Wow, that's an interesting bunch of stereotypical accusations there. Let's look at the facts, shall we?

Not only are you likely to find as many liberals in the armed forces (or retired from it) as you are conservatives, but in Congress there seems to be a disproportionate number of Democrats (both liberal and conservative) who have actually served in the armed forces as opposed to the conservative legion of rightwing "chickenhawks" like Dick Cheney who weaseled out of going to Vietnam with five deferments. You might want to discuss with Democrat John Murtha how much he hates the military and won't fight to defend anyone's rights.

You are also likely to find many liberals are in fact gun owners. I am an example. My dad was staunch democrat all his life, and he directed the NRA's PR department from 1978 to 1981. I would have loved for you to call him anti-gun.

"Liberals murder unborn children". That's going to come as quite a shock to all the conservatives who also believe in a woman's right to have an abortion. Notable examples are Laura Bush, Barabara Bush, and Mary Maitlin.

Liberals want free health care. No, they want their tax money to pay for a universal system instead of Bush's stupid f**k war based on lies in Iraq, that has now passed the two TRILLION dollar mark. Priorities, it's all about priorities.

Liberals drive cars and take flights just like you do. The only difference is they are more likely to buy more fuel efficient cars, walk more where it is possible, and consume in a way that is more conscious of their environment. By the way, global warming is a fact now. Not only does your president admit it, but a consortium of over 300 scientists from many nations presented a study and a report to the UN to that effect.

I think that's enough for you to chew on right now. Oh, except for this - after Jan 2009, the Gods willing, we liberals will be able to get to work on fixing all the horrendous damage visited upon our nation by 14 years of conservative mis-rule.

#21941 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:11 pm
Irminsul, I am not a big fan of guns personally. I am not a major advocate of anti-gun laws though, I just feel they are senseless. It will not work, go on, ban guns from homes, the thieves and murderers will just get them somewhere else. So yeah. Plus violence is never going to stop no matter what we do, if we take the guns away they will just get a bat or build laser guns for all I know. :roll:


As for Global Warming, I will stand here and completely defend its existence. I have studied it in and out and know how it functions probably better than most at this rate. People who say it is not real do not understand the facts. I will clearly provide anyone who challenges its existence with an in depth look into how it works. Then if they still choose to deny it, that is their choice.

So on that subject, I am an avid supporter of its existence. How do we fix it? I do not know, personally I think there is almost no where out of it. We are too darn late.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#21942 by Starfish Scott
Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:13 pm
MR. RN, you just lost some credibility for not being a free thinker.

Irminsul knows this story.

My buddy in Canada needed an operation. It's free in Canada, but he was supposed to wait 6 months to have it.

Long story short, he went to the USA and had it done. All better. The point is FREE is great, but TIMELY may make a difference.

How about a nice HIV infected transfusion?

Show me an honest doctor and I'll show you a volunteer. Otherwise you know what you can do with your Porsche, don't you?
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#21943 by TheCaptain
Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:14 pm
Celtic's take..

to borrow from Hollywood-

"There are laws that enslave men, and laws that set them free..."

#21945 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:16 pm
I like that quote, Celtic Piping.

But I think we are going to need shields in a moment, it looks like this political argument is about to finally explode into an all out war.

*Finds shelter, puts on a helmet and hides till it passes, or until he is brave enough to come back out.* :evil:

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