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#256957 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:23 am
Planetguy wrote:and anyone who's interested....you can basically hang any D7....Dm7.....Dm7b5.....D blues scale.....etc "comments" over the tune.

but for extra credit and to really lay it in the slot.... D whole tone is what's going on there.

it's a "symmetrical scale"....you can start it on any scale degree and it has the same "shape".....literally as in a geometrical shape, but also in that the intervals remain the same between each step. that's right, marsha...a whole step between each!

if ya haven't had much exp w it...it's a six note scale that actually lays out very nicely on fretted instruments. pretty nicely on keyboard instr too.

D E F# G# Bb C

so once you get that wired...you've also 'mastered' E whole tone....F# whole tone....G# whole tone....etc

there are only two whole tone scales...those found within the above framework and those found in the set found 1/2 step higher!!!

Eb F G A B Db

from one thing...MANY THINGS!!!!! endless clean fun for everybody!
yes planetguy, you have hit the nail on the head, it is basically splitting an octave into six equal parts, it gives a "floating" sound characteristic and establishes no specific "key-center"..this allows a bunch of harmonic transistions not possible with conventional diatonic harmony
#256959 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:27 am
will we be able to use the diminished scale? each diminished scale gives 4 potential key centers the 1st 3rd 5th and 7th notes in it's scale
#256976 by Planetguy
Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:58 pm
sure....C dim can work. and against a D7 all the pitches line up nicely.... giving up the b7 b9 M3rd and Perfect 5th.

....but against D whole tone, that perfect 5th (A) is a bit of a rub (and that's either good or bad depending on what you're going for)

another choice would be C Aug which bumps the A natural up to an A# (one of the "in the pocket" chord tones of D Whole tone).

get busy guys...i'm looking fwd to hearing what ya come up w!
#256978 by Planetguy
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:03 pm
oh...jook,. you mentioned hearing a C tonal center until the bass gtr comes in.

i gave it a listen to check and you're partly right. up front it does have "C center", but it changes to "D" before the bass gtr enters.

it's at the .29 second mark when the gtr plays a root to Maj 3rd interval. check it out...it's pretty obvious.
Last edited by Planetguy on Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
#256979 by Planetguy
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:04 pm
jookeyman wrote:Your download icon is still not showing up for me.

E-mail me a MP3.

Thanks buddy!! :wink:


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#256981 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:09 pm
gee whiz planetguy, you give us homework right before swap meet season is starting? :D busy time of year fro me, like asking a farmer to start cuttin' brush out of the fencerows, when planting seaon has arrived? :D actually swap meet season started two Sundays ago, and did real good selling.. last Sunday was more than less crappy and gfoggy w/ mist and rain so just went to shop and sho nuff not many vendors set up and they were all bitchin' cause butch was collecting set up fees.. not many walkers either.. :D e
#256985 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:23 pm
if I get the time to participate on this project, I am going to surprise you with some hip descant recorder music happenins'.. I will play the root note and min.3rd notes droning my ass off to it.. you will love it.. :D
#257029 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:38 pm
I pick em' up all the time for 3 or 4 dollars at auctions I attend weekly.. I only have a plastic sprano ANGEL brand that has a better tone than some wood recorders I have traded off.. :D

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