General Music Chat

Jeff, I get their SS# before I pay anyone anything. I also get them to sign a "work for hire" agreement before they play a note on a recording.

It's just business.

That's what most agents do Slack. He sends a form (1099) to the IRS as a result I have to declare it. Since we split the money equally that means each member should split the taxes equally. In order to do this you have to have names addresses and SSI numbers. After receiving an equal split the drummer said I am NOT giving you my SSI and I am quitting the band! When I confronted him about his chickenshit ways he then threw out the old classic insult to hurt "you suck" classy eh! My biggest fault in life is that I am too nice and trusting of people I try to see the best in them. When they screw me like this I get mad as HELL and become an @sshole for a while until I work thru the emotions. After all is said and done I probably won't be as trusting. The scumbags I have run across in this business have taken a toll I REALLY want to just give up the band thing. My wife reminds me that I have been thru far worse and come out of it fine!

I usually get all the 1099s for our gigs and file a sched 'C' listing all the musicians as independent contractors, their income amounts w/1099, and their SSN. If they refuse to give their SSN and accept a 1099, no problem. I just make a note to that effect listing their full name, address, email, cel phone # and shoe size. The IRS just LOVES those guys!

I also expense all travel costs, strings, cords, website costs, promotional materials, office supplies, and other expendable items so I pay taxes on a realistic net income and not total gross receipts. Musicians don't really make very much money when you add it all up for Uncle Sam to get his fair share.

I have his name address email and cell no. It is my intent to have my tax preparer include all of that in the 1099s and I'll turn that into the irs with a copy of his email refusing to deal with 1099 (twisted evil) LoL!

There is never a good reason to sic the gov't on other people. know matter what, where I come from we handle our own problems. Perhaps that's why you think people from MO are mean Dane (yet you want to live among us here in God's country). You can't force your old bandmembers to do what you think is the right thing on taxes, (and how do you know, if you don't have a lawyer doing your taxes, you ain't got enuf money for them to want to put the effort out to get u, unless you just make it 2 esay for them),cover your own azz on taxes with only expose past bandmembers little as possible and still keep yourself in good standing.

I don't give anybody my SSN#.

I would rather live in California Lynard, my twin brother duped me into coming here, and I was amazed how low the property taxes were and how cheap the land was in relation to where I'd lived the previous 13 years in Florida and North Carolina, so I hung around, been here 22+ years, and find there are worse places than here .. you ever been in northern Wisconsin? it sucks there

That's what most agents do Slack. He sends a form (1099) to the IRS as a result I have to declare it. Since we split the money equally that means each member should split the taxes equally. In order to do this you have to have names addresses and SSI numbers. After receiving an equal split the drummer said I am NOT giving you my SSI and I am quitting the band! When I confronted him about his chickenshit ways he then threw out the old classic insult to hurt "you suck" classy eh! My biggest fault in life is that I am too nice and trusting of people I try to see the best in them. When they screw me like this I get mad as HELL and become an @sshole for a while until I work thru the emotions. After all is said and done I probably won't be as trusting. The scumbags I have run across in this business have taken a toll I REALLY want to just give up the band thing. My wife reminds me that I have been thru far worse and come out of it fine!

I usually get all the 1099s for our gigs and file a sched 'C' listing all the musicians as independent contractors, their income amounts w/1099, and their SSN. If they refuse to give their SSN and accept a 1099, no problem. I just make a note to that effect listing their full name, address, email, cel phone # and shoe size. The IRS just LOVES those guys!

I also expense all travel costs, strings, cords, website costs, promotional materials, office supplies, and other expendable items so I pay taxes on a realistic net income and not total gross receipts. Musicians don't really make very much money when you add it all up for Uncle Sam to get his fair share.

I have his name address email and cell no. It is my intent to have my tax preparer include all of that in the 1099s and I'll turn that into the irs with a copy of his email refusing to deal with 1099 (twisted evil) LoL!

It's pretty simple Jeff. Once you receive a 1099 from a regular client for entertainment income, somebody must pay tax on that income. Either your bandmates pay their fair share or you pay their tax for them. I don't pay other peoples income tax out of my share. If a player has reservations about getting a 1099 for band income I give them the choice of withholding 20% of their share from each gig to cover their taxes or a 1099 at the end of the year. Either way the taxes get covered.

There are a lot of bands who only play 2 bit juke joints for cash but the best gigs pay a lot better and always issue a 1099 at the end of the year. No SSN, no more good gigs.

I have worked for this agency for 10 years and know how the system works. I have never had a problem with this situation before I have 1099 over 20 musicians in the past. This time I didn't expect the checks to come to me and I had played with these particular guys for 3 years. They are a different group and I told them in the beginning what my intensions were. None of them indicated it would be a problem. They knew that I would. Be 1099 them. After this one guy took the money knowing he wasn't going to go along with it and said nothing. Bottom line is I trusted them and in the end his true colors came out. We had a good run with the MI band and you think you know someone until they do you rotten like this.