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#189329 by PaperDog
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:21 pm
I'm still looking for that one link... It was a broadcast , so not sure its posted just yet...I'll keep looking :)

#189330 by PaperDog
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:22 pm
Kramerguy wrote:
PaperDog wrote:Was not referring to popular vote. I'm talking about electorate. Popular vote doesnt mean anything, really. The electorates are so exasperated that they actually want compelling evidence now that Obama would be the correct choice.


Yeah, but the electorate is still obligated (mostly) to vote according to the popular vote. Unless you are suggesting somehow the entire PA electoral college has been bought off.. then we're talking fraud on an epic scale.. bigger than FLA in 2000 by far.

Romney has zero chance of taking PA, even he knows it and his campaign admitted they have no intention of trying to campaign here for that reason.


Not saying The PA was bough off...buuuuuuuuuut.... we ar e talking about political institutions..
:lol:

#189333 by Kramerguy
Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:57 pm
sorry can't trust fox news, and the examiner.. well, I checked otu their site and in the one article I looked at, they were bashing a senator and brought up that he's supports Obama's death panels :roll: well, pass.

I did look it up and it's reported on most of the major networks that romney is indeed rising in the swing states.. but none of them include PA in that category.

As far as politicians being bought off, well.. yeah we KNOW that, but it still be an amazing feat to buy off an entire states' electorate.

#189337 by JCP61
Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:42 pm
mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
obama will win by a slim margin.

#189341 by DainNobody
Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:14 pm
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#189345 by PaperDog
Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:43 pm
JCP61 wrote:mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
Obama will win by a slim margin.


I disagree, for the simple reason that if Obama stays in Office, this country will go tits out in riots, rebellions and what have you.

I cant think of a single democrat that hasn't thought this out thoroughly. As much as they may love Obama, most of them already see the Epic - fail his leadership is... They cant even get him to agree on the appropriate government cheese to give away...

#189348 by JCP61
Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:03 pm
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
Obama will win by a slim margin.


I disagree, for the simple reason that if Obama stays in Office, this country will go tits out in riots, rebellions and what have you.

I cant think of a single democrat that hasn't thought this out thoroughly. As much as they may love Obama, most of them already see the Epic - fail his leadership is... They cant even get him to agree on the appropriate government cheese to give away...


well I think predictions of riots and civil war is a little extreme, but at the present state of things an investment banker is a tuff sell,
if people are at a state of rebellion a suit and tie out of a capitol investment firm will hardly calm them down.
because as dubious as the last 4 years have been it is going to be tuff to convince anyone that the bankers are on your side.
and I believe mitt himself will stumble and choke when obama brings on the class warfare argument, that he will surely bring to the next debate.
obama played this right,
obama must be seen as the underdog who rises in the 9th inning to win.
they have laid the trap, we shall see if they can spring it.
in a 2 debate contest the winner of the 1st is allways the most vulnerable.

#189362 by PaperDog
Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:44 am
JCP61 wrote:
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
Obama will win by a slim margin.


I disagree, for the simple reason that if Obama stays in Office, this country will go tits out in riots, rebellions and what have you.

I cant think of a single democrat that hasn't thought this out thoroughly. As much as they may love Obama, most of them already see the Epic - fail his leadership is... They cant even get him to agree on the appropriate government cheese to give away...


well I think predictions of riots and civil war is a little extreme, but at the present state of things an investment banker is a tuff sell,
if people are at a state of rebellion a suit and tie out of a capitol investment firm will hardly calm them down.
because as dubious as the last 4 years have been it is going to be tuff to convince anyone that the bankers are on your side.
and I believe mitt himself will stumble and choke when obama brings on the class warfare argument, that he will surely bring to the next debate.
obama played this right,
obama must be seen as the underdog who rises in the 9th inning to win.
they have laid the trap, we shall see if they can spring it.
in a 2 debate contest the winner of the 1st is allways the most vulnerable.


Good point about the Class warfare... It will be interesting to see how Obama answers , when Romney asks him what he's done about improving the poverty in America..lol ;)

#189367 by JCP61
Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:48 am
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
Obama will win by a slim margin.


I disagree, for the simple reason that if Obama stays in Office, this country will go tits out in riots, rebellions and what have you.

I cant think of a single democrat that hasn't thought this out thoroughly. As much as they may love Obama, most of them already see the Epic - fail his leadership is... They cant even get him to agree on the appropriate government cheese to give away...


well I think predictions of riots and civil war is a little extreme, but at the present state of things an investment banker is a tuff sell,
if people are at a state of rebellion a suit and tie out of a capitol investment firm will hardly calm them down.
because as dubious as the last 4 years have been it is going to be tuff to convince anyone that the bankers are on your side.
and I believe mitt himself will stumble and choke when obama brings on the class warfare argument, that he will surely bring to the next debate.
obama played this right,
obama must be seen as the underdog who rises in the 9th inning to win.
they have laid the trap, we shall see if they can spring it.
in a 2 debate contest the winner of the 1st is allways the most vulnerable.


Good point about the Class warfare... It will be interesting to see how Obama answers , when Romney asks him what he's done about improving the poverty in America..lol ;)


there's the rub, both candidates will want to studiously avoid debating the fact that real prices in america have almost doubled.
so Obama will want to attack mitt on class status, which works as an indirect association, i.e. "mitt your type of people are eating all the good bits"
and mitt will fall into the higher taxes argument which reenforces the notion that his type don't want to pay their fair share.

so the poverty issue works for obama, he has someone to blame.
mitt has only a theoretical argument that has already been proven to be incorrect.

well let me restate that, the lower taxes for business' and wealthy argument hasn't been proven to be false but it dose suffer from the implication that if you have money you get a better deal from Washington than if you don't.
thus reinforcing the class warfare divide.

so if the unemployed and the disaffected come out to vote obama wins,
if the tea party and ron paul section unanimously back mitt he just might pull it off.

#189373 by Starfish Scott
Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:29 pm
Pour holy water on Mitt.

If he doesn't burst into flames, I'll vote for him. lol

(poof)

#189383 by Kramerguy
Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:20 pm
you guys should go to youtube and look up "jon stewart, bill o'reilly, unedited"

It's a 5-part video of jon stewart on o'reillys show, and not the fox news edited version of it.

Jon steward gives a really level and realistic outlook on both candidates and many of the wedge issues. It's worth a watch just to get you "sky is falling" people back down to earth, if nothing else.

NOW I do believe also that the sky is falling, but not in the next 4 years, nor do I believe either candidate will have any impact on it, good or bad. More like either one will maintain the status-quo, which is essentially a downward spiral.

#189384 by JCP61
Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:43 pm
comedy central
oh yea, that's where I'll be going to get my news
:shock:

#189390 by PaperDog
Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:51 am
Kramerguy wrote:you guys should go to youtube and look up "jon stewart, bill o'reilly, unedited"

It's a 5-part video of jon stewart on o'reillys show, and not the fox news edited version of it.

Jon steward gives a really level and realistic outlook on both candidates and many of the wedge issues. It's worth a watch just to get you "sky is falling" people back down to earth, if nothing else.

NOW I do believe also that the sky is falling, but not in the next 4 years, nor do I believe either candidate will have any impact on it, good or bad. More like either one will maintain the status-quo, which is essentially a downward spiral.


Steven Colbert is way funnier. Stewart is OK but sometimes he's just silly... I know he and OReilly had a row at one time... Reilly is intellectually superior to Jon Stewert, but Jon Stewert is better at Comedy...And Stewert even confessed openly that most of what they air is slop

#189496 by gtZip
Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:17 pm
JCP61 wrote:mitts already been suckered,
he will fumble the last debate badly and won't have time to recover.
obama will win by a slim margin.


Bah... Be a man and a good Mormon, Mitt, and you will crush that Marxist devil licker.
You want to talk helping hand up, and helping people out? That's a true L.D.S. Man - without the traditional catholic, uhhh, habit.

If you are still in good standing with the church, then speak the principles, don't hide from them.
People will cry bible thumper, but there is no lake of fire in his religion.


But when all is said and done dear voter, remember this - Ron Paul loves you.
#189499 by Vampier
Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:34 pm
...To "Win" is farcical ... regardless of which political feces "wins" everyone else loses ... not just here but in the entire world.

The elections are the trigger for "riots"..."civil unrest" ...an excuse to "exercise" control ... to "institute" cleansing ... to "install" the Police State.

Election is Execution

Ta Live Well Die Well

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