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Boys and Girls, welcome to the liberal and contemporary version of WATERGATE! Benghazi Libya is your Watergate imagine in the middle of an election!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 80548.html

Phuk you LIBTARDS defending this action you PHUKIN HYPOCRITES! You arrogant BASTARDS can SUCK MY CACK! Your POTUS caused this and all you can do is defend MUSLIMS? I PRAY TO GOD justice will be served in the form of a weapon MY GOOD FRIEND Slacker described today!

Boys and Girls, welcome to the liberal and contemporary version of WATERGATE! Benghazi Libya is your Watergate imagine in the middle of an election!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 80548.html

Phuk you LIBTARDS defending this action you PHUKIN HYPOCRITES! You arrogant BASTARDS can SUCK MY CACK! Your POTUS caused this and all you can do is defend MUSLIMS! I PRAY TO GOD justice will be served in the form of a weapon MY GOOD FRIEND Slacker described today!

Haley is being nice and christian.

ANY ONE WANT TO BULLSHIIT ME ALSO!

this was a security failure of the STATE DEPARTMENT. I think it would be much more apt to blame Hillary, if anyone. But I think it's prudent to single out the people who actually made those decisions, not the guy who had 5 degrees of separation and relied on his staff to inform him there was even a problem, to which he was most likely completely unaware of. There's not enough hours in the day for the prez to manage every detail of everything that goes on in the world.

That being said, I understand the expectation on him that he's ultimately in charge, and that when answer-time came, that he was mis-informed and repeated that misinformation, and is held accountable for that, but if he were to come out and say exactly that, his critics would only bash him worse for blaming someone else.

So I see his dilemma and will defer my disappointments and criticisms to the heads at the state department, whose failure ultimately cost american lives. That's what this is about- american lives, right? I find it unseemly to use those lives as a political tool, especially when there's so many easier ways to dismantle Obama without resorting to wedge issues and propaganda.

Let's talk about his drone strikes on innocent families in pakistan or his assassination of american citizens.. or Obamas atrocious record of using the justice department to silence whistle-blowers.

Why not he's been blaming somebody else for 4 years! Its called being a LEADER you surround yourself with people that won't put you in this situation! Its obvious from his Golf Playing to his lackluster performance at the debate the Man does NOT want to do the WORK of being President. It is also OBVIOUS whom is running the country and IMO it AINT Obummer it is OTHER PEOPLE!

Nice job completely dodging my point. You are so eager to blame obama that you are giving those who are really responsible a pass.

The state department is to blame, but the following several days was a bold-faced lie by the White House. Why would they cover it up if all they had to do was just pass the blame to the State Department? I still get the sense the rabbit hole goes deeper - congressional hearings will hopefully shed more light on the subject, but as it stands - lying to public while having full knowledge of what happened is disgraceful.

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this was a security failure of the STATE DEPARTMENT. I think it would be much more apt to blame Hillary, if anyone. But I think it's prudent to single out the people who actually made those decisions, not the guy who had 5 degrees of separation and relied on his staff to inform him there was even a problem, to which he was most likely completely unaware of. There's not enough hours in the day for the prez to manage every detail of everything that goes on in the world.

That being said, I understand the expectation on him that he's ultimately in charge, and that when answer-time came, that he was mis-informed and repeated that misinformation, and is held accountable for that, but if he were to come out and say exactly that, his critics would only bash him worse for blaming someone else.

So I see his dilemma and will defer my disappointments and criticisms to the heads at the state department, whose failure ultimately cost american lives. That's what this is about- american lives, right? I find it unseemly to use those lives as a political tool, especially when there's so many easier ways to dismantle Obama without resorting to wedge issues and propaganda.

Let's talk about his drone strikes on innocent families in pakistan or his assassination of american citizens.. or Obamas atrocious record of using the justice department to silence whistle-blowers.

I don't even understand why blaming a video vs. it being a 9-11 'planned' attack is relevant. The facts seem to show that at least on some level, the anti-usa media on that end used the video to whoop up the mob anyways. I believe we all bought into the concept that the video was the sole reason for the attack...

Even I didn't realize it was on the anniversary until a few days later when the media pointed it out, and reports began to surface that it was more than what it seemed on the surface.

In the end, the people who actually mobbed and killed our citizens- do you think it matters at all to them that some of them where there specifically as operatives while the rest were just puppets being manipulated by those operatives, using false outrage at a youtube video?

As far as I'm concerned, Obama is a big dummy.

I think our CIA and pentagon staged this whole damn thing, and Obama knows nothing more than me or you, or anybody else who isn't in on this epic charade. By "staged", I mean tha the video creation, upload, arab media pressure for their people to "act" against it, etc..

Follow the money..
Pentagon gets fat budget
Corporate weapons manu's (MIC) get's repeat business
War-hawks get a step closer to their goals
(insert party here) not in the POTUS office today gets to criticize (insert party here) that is in the POTUS office. This situation seems to repeat itself no matter which party is in power.

Some of us are getting sick of watching the same sh*t play out with the same pathetic results.

oh.. and worth mentioning:

I'm 100% for a congressional investigation, I would love to know what the state department knew and when, I would also love to know what the informed obama's staff, and what obama knew, and when.

I don't want to defend obama, I rarely defend him personally so much as dispel right-wing myths (and occasionally left wing myths as well). My interest has always been in what the truth is. If obama did lie to the public, I want to know why.

I'm left wondering though- why is the right wing so incessant about every potential lie obama tells, but gives romney/paul a free pass when they have been telling a disturbing amount of outright lies, pandering the bullest of sh*t as facts, etc..

You guys seriously need to live by your own standards. I do.

I'm left wondering though- why is the right wing so incessant about every potential lie obama tells, but gives romney/paul a free pass when they have been telling a disturbing amount of outright lies, pandering the bullest of sh*t as facts, etc..

You guys seriously need to live by your own standards. I do.

yeah. that.

It's irrelevant whether the White House knew the day of, or even the day after. What is relevant is they surely knew it was 9/11 the third day, and reported it was not 9/11 related on the 4th day. That's all I'm pointing out.

I don't even understand why blaming a video vs. it being a 9-11 'planned' attack is relevant. The facts seem to show that at least on some level, the anti-usa media on that end used the video to whoop up the mob anyways. I believe we all bought into the concept that the video was the sole reason for the attack...

Even I didn't realize it was on the anniversary until a few days later when the media pointed it out, and reports began to surface that it was more than what it seemed on the surface.

In the end, the people who actually mobbed and killed our citizens- do you think it matters at all to them that some of them where there specifically as operatives while the rest were just puppets being manipulated by those operatives, using false outrage at a youtube video?

As far as I'm concerned, Obama is a big dummy.

I think our CIA and pentagon staged this whole damn thing, and Obama knows nothing more than me or you, or anybody else who isn't in on this epic charade. By "staged", I mean tha the video creation, upload, arab media pressure for their people to "act" against it, etc..

Follow the money..
Pentagon gets fat budget
Corporate weapons manu's (MIC) get's repeat business
War-hawks get a step closer to their goals
(insert party here) not in the POTUS office today gets to criticize (insert party here) that is in the POTUS office. This situation seems to repeat itself no matter which party is in power.

Some of us are getting sick of watching the same sh*t play out with the same pathetic results.

I'm left wondering though- why is the right wing so incessant about every potential lie obama tells, but gives romney/paul a free pass when they have been telling a disturbing amount of outright lies, pandering the bullest of sh*t as facts, etc..

You guys seriously need to live by your own standards. I do.

In this case, it's not a potential lie. I'm not giving Romney a pass. I see two world-views that I strongly disagree with in principle, running for office. Neither will see my vote.

In this case, it's not a potential lie. I'm not giving Romney a pass. I see two world-views that I strongly disagree with in principle, running for office. Neither will see my vote.

On this we agree. I'm no friend of the republican or democrat parties. I'm registered green and voting down the line, cause frankly.. you can't find many green candidates who lie or directly use their offices to do anything except what they promised in the first place.