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#189019 by Drumsinhisheart
Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:05 pm
"so, you're concerned about losing our freedom and liberties. i don't recall you up in arms (here on BMIX) re. new voter registration requirements. did i miss that? ********I'm not here every day. Months have gone by when I have not tuned into the forum. When were those issues brought up? Do I believe in purging voter rolls? Yes. Do I believe in the current climate of 20 million illegal immigrants in America that providing some kind of ID to prove you are a citizen to vote is necessary? Yes.

what about "suspicious persons" in AZ being required to provide ID because of their skin color? *******Bogus. Read the AZ law.

how about women's reproductive rights and choices?*******I've never seen the subject on this forum. For the record I stand with innocent babies.

instead, you're taking on the issue of trying to educate our children in school about healthy diets and energy conservation as the great evil that's gonna topple society and civilization as we know it? *******Another straw man. Why be foolish in your position of mine? This particular thread is about property rights, which have taken serious blows in the last ten years. I hope you don't find out the hard way if some town takes your house and land because a Walmart wants to go in. Talk to the people in CT how to deal with that if it happens. They know firsthand.

(forgive me if i have your views on the above incorrect and please feel free to correct if i'm mistaken)"

#189040 by JCP61
Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 pm
with all due respect to the more conservative, or lately conservative people here.
I don't think you had as many freedoms as you think you have had.
the myth of freedom is very popular nowadays.

national socialism has been the mainstay goverment philosophy for decades.
everyone, whether they like it or not is on the iron umbilical chord.

romney, pau, obama, name who you want; speak of nothing else than they're best version of national socialism.

everytime one of you opens your mouth about what ought to be done, you are advocating national socialism.
most especially the conservative.
every time the liberal lauds his brave new world, he cheers from the sidelines of Nuremberg.


I know God, I live and die under whatever goverment that man lately corrupts.
it is man; it is what man has always done,
man always promises tomorrow will be different, and you always discover that the altruistic man has absconded with the funds.
I am only a victim of Gods mercy, and so I fear nothing.

#189063 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:32 am
Planetguy wrote:really? is anyone REALLY worried about this passing and becoming a reality? i mean... really?

just another case of more Chicken Little BS panic...."THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!"


AAASSSHHHHOOOOOLLLLEEEE!!!!!


The point is that it even came UP.
You are the just the person that allows millions of innocent people to be killed because they don't believe the sky is falling.
Oh your Jewish by the way..... You should understand that.

I'm tired of proving how stupid,,, people like you really are.
Have a good day.

#189070 by DainNobody
Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:44 am
if you read the fine print it mentions reselling of goods made overseas.. in a strange way, this might be a good thing and bring the business and factories back to the U.S.A. and MADE IN AMERICA will equate to jobs for AMERICANS

#189080 by Drumsinhisheart
Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:28 am
"with all due respect to the more conservative, or lately conservative people here. I don't think you had as many freedoms as you think you have had.
the myth of freedom is very popular nowadays."

JCP61,

If I am included in your post I believe I know exactly what freedoms I have (few, comparatively speaking with early American history), and what few freedoms left are at stake. One only needs to read the Declaration, the Constitution, and some Federalist Papers to see what the gig is.

Freedom is not a myth. Freedom is an experience, which so many millions now realize they are losing they have stood up and said, No More. How that translates out in Romney (Obamalite) getting elected remains to be seen.

Personally I believe America is lost, as far as being a Constitutional Republic. All Washington would have to be cleaned out to get things back on track. That will not happen, 16 trillion in debt will crush the Republic, and who knows? Tribalism may develop when the dust clears. I do not watch television or go to movies, but I have come across enough Hollywood scenarios - from The Postman to other such "after" novelties that it causes me to wonder just what moguls in Hollywood know, or at least think, is coming? Especially is that the case when Hollywood, in general, is dominantly liberal/progressive in political nature and close to the White House when liberal/Progressives are in it.

Of course RINOs are as big a problem. The Military Industrial Complex is the bottom line, and is a huge problem, threat, actually.

Of course, perhaps the biggest problem of all has been Americans allowing themselves to be pushed around by empty suits. The TSA is a prime example. So is the IRS. So are all the other non-Constitutional entities telling Americans what they can and cannot do while Americans just take it and bend over.

#189090 by Planetguy
Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:54 pm
GLENNY J wrote:
You are the just the person that allows millions of innocent people to be killed because they don't believe the sky is falling.


says the guy who wants to nuke the muslims

I'm tired of proving how stupid,,, people like you really are.
Have a good day.


and you're so stupid that you think you actually proved anything. (other than what a hypocrite you are.) oh, yeah....and your momma dresses you funny too. so there.

#189092 by Kramerguy
Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:18 pm
the whole "debt crisis" is yet another of the great lies circulated by the almighty koch's and their vast media network.

We are no more in debt, per percentage of GDP, than we were in 1945. Also, social security is not bankrupt, insolvent, or even close to insolvency. People are cooking the numbers to scare you, for several reasons:

You will typically vote (conservative) based on your inaccurate perception of the issue.
You will be more willing to give up SS if you believe it's bankrupt.
It's a wedge issue, the more you argue with your fellow americans over this, the less time you will spend addressing the bigger issues, leading into...
It's yet another issue designed to take away from meaningful presidential debates. Has anyone noticed that the entire campaigns and debates haven't addressed anything BUT wedge issues that in the end- don't really matter?

ALL OF US AMERICANS are being bamboozled this election. Candidate A and B are the same exact thing, everything you believe they stand for is a lie, and every difference between them is smoke and mirrors.


Here's a pretty common chart, if you don't believe it's factual, google it yourself and you will find that most sites that measure % of debt to GDP coincide across the board, with exception to heavily biased sites that just make sh*t up and post it.
http://visual.ly/united-states-debt-per ... -1940-2012

Truth about social security:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/0 ... ?mobile=nc

Also, easy to google and find tons or reputable sites that repeat this

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