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#175660 by jimmydanger
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:12 pm
I actually listened to the whole track, which I don't always do lol. It needs more development but I liked where you were going with it. The slide is cool.

#175665 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:23 pm
I can't listen until I get home later, but as far as tuning goes:
Never rely totally on any tuner - amp, software, clip-on or pedal.
There are many tuning methods, but you need to tune a guitar to itself.
One method is to tune the A string to your tuner (hopefully this gives you a true 440Hz starting point), then tune each string to the A, using harmonics where possible, rather than fingering the 5th (or whichever) fret. If you're playing up the neck, tune it for up in that area, if you're playing a lot of open string chords, tune it for those.
It amazes me how many people these days can't tune a guitar without a tuner - you need to develop an 'ear' for it, hearing the octave A played on the G string in tune with the open A string, for example.
If there's an intonation issue, look at correcting it via different strings and/or a new set up.

#175670 by jimmydanger
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:28 pm
Good advice Mike. Electric I check harmonics at the 12th fret, acoustic I check the open strings.

#175676 by DainNobody
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:51 pm
J-HALEY wrote:I like your right hand technique. However you took the old school de-tune thing TOO far LOL! Please tune before you record PLEASE! I know you were trying for an effect you just took it a little too far! :wink:

thank-you J-HALEY for the review! I swear to God Morning Glory sounds different this morning then it did last evening, would it not be surprising to find that techies here at BandMix have improved the sound quality? it sounds better this morning , not a muddy sounding, maybe a problem with the file when it was uploaded?..

#175677 by DainNobody
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:54 pm
jimmydanger wrote:I actually listened to the whole track, which I don't always do lol. It needs more development but I liked where you were going with it. The slide is cool.

I really appreciate your effort jimmy, thanks for the feedback.. now If I can get my avatar back it has disappeared for no reason? maybe I need to pay up to the PREMIER account.. get my avatar back if I UPGRADE? LOL

#175678 by DainNobody
Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 pm
GuitarMikeB wrote:I can't listen until I get home later, but as far as tuning goes:
Never rely totally on any tuner - amp, software, clip-on or pedal.
There are many tuning methods, but you need to tune a guitar to itself.
One method is to tune the A string to your tuner (hopefully this gives you a true 440Hz starting point), then tune each string to the A, using harmonics where possible, rather than fingering the 5th (or whichever) fret. If you're playing up the neck, tune it for up in that area, if you're playing a lot of open string chords, tune it for those.
It amazes me how many people these days can't tune a guitar without a tuner - you need to develop an 'ear' for it, hearing the octave A played on the G string in tune with the open A string, for example.
If there's an intonation issue, look at correcting it via different strings and/or a new set up.

thanks for the listen GuitarMikeB, every comment is important to me, it can be negative, neutral, or positive ..without feedback a guy does not know what steps to take to make better production..

#175682 by Jahva
Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:29 pm
I would say it's a nice piece in the making. Tech issues and performance can be corrected but a bad song played well is still a bad song.
Has plenty of room for vocal melody... I'd say it's on it's way to being a keeper.

#175683 by Cajundaddy
Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:45 pm
J-HALEY wrote:I like your right hand technique. However you took the old school de-tune thing TOO far LOL! Please tune before you record PLEASE! I know you were trying for an effect you just took it a little too far! :wink:


:lol: I think he went right past "old school" and into reform school.

Dane, I like the song and your playing. Preparation is a big part of any recording. I have done this myself when recording too quickly and kicked myself later. If the guitar is out of tune or the tempo drifts too far I have to throw away a lot of recordings that are simply unusable.

A good learning experience.

#175685 by XhaDoW-6
Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:38 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:thanks much XhaDoW-6, every review is greatly appreciated! I think by FLASHBACK you mean going back in time kinda sound?.. negative/positive, I like all feedback, and greatly appreciated.. maybe next time I get in the studio when I get a little more cash rounded up, I'll try something different, rural blues or heavy metal! but I will need to turn the saturation and distortion up for heavy metal..LOL


I write music based on feelings And themes If I want to put a feeling towards that song would be a feeling of reminiscing On good memories

#175693 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:57 pm
A month or so back I was recording guitar tracks for a song and used my Epi Dot that I was having intonation problems with (the G string was always out of whack) for a couple of tracks. When I played them, I was happy enough with it but when I listened to it, I could hear the out-of-tune string - really stuck out on the open chords. Luckily I had recorded more tracks with a different guitar and used those instead.
No big deal recording at home - but if you're paying for studio or engineer time, it shows one's gear and self need to be prepared when going in.

#175716 by DainNobody
Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:56 pm
thanks jahva for comment, I hope it has a hook, that is only reason I dick around writing music, is to be as commercial sounding as possible, I never try to impress with production quality since it's not my "job" as a musician, it will/would be the producer's job to make sure my instruments are correctly set, in tune, intonation checked, proper tone is set, correct musical instrument mix is in place, able to get the room adjusted with a white noise generator (which I don't have).. the notes are there and in place and that is all that matters to me, I don't feel like being a producer, or sound engineer, or even a live entertainer (for now) just want to create hits..let the studio musicians take MY TUNE and run with it, but please give me a monetary cut of the action when you get it tweaked and ready for the world's audience to buy

#175731 by Sir Jamsalot
Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:44 pm
I rather liked the song.
At first, I thought the out-of-tune was part of the opening appeal to good old southern porch music which is great. Then the slide duitar came in and it was for the most part "in-tune" and the guitar tuning never fixed up :/ so I guess you couldn't hear how far out of tune it was? Srikes me as odd if you did the slide guitar because it sounded fine.

Anyways - cool tune. Gave me a sense of being on the river in the 1800's. Most enjoyable.

#175797 by GuitarMikeB
Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:19 pm
I couldn't tell if the slide was in tune, due to the out of tune finger-picked guitar. Retune and retrack and it woudl be a catchy theme song for a movie or tb show.
Is there a market for instrumental songs - that is once where others take the tune and rerecord it, rather than for backing tracks, soundtracks?

#175834 by MikeTalbot
Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:03 am
I've been teaching guitar to a couple fellows and learning a lot myself by doing it.

one of the guys told me he thought I was just a bit obsessive about tuning - I took it as a complement.

I blew the midrange in my left ear at a club gig years ago. I was very happy when digital tuners came around. I actually remember some of the first ones that cost a fortune. I remember them as big things too.

I use the tuners in my guitar amps or korg with my bass amp. I still trust my ear as well but not as much as I once did...I agree with JD about harmonics too - that's a quick way to home in on problems.

Sadly, my bottom E on my Strat is just a bit out but I'm waiting to adjust it because Im not good at that and I'm putting it in the shop soon any way for a 'tune up.'

Talbot

#175852 by Sean Derek
Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:56 pm
That was not good!
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