General Music Chat

FBob is right on this for sure. It's not our job to ensure both sides of a deal. If we insist ourselves on acting forthrightly, we've held up our end of it.

Obviously it pays also to be circumspect. Trust everyone but lock your car and carry a 1911.

Talbot

Yeah Bob ... after all, I am just a man.

. Most likely a righteous man, but it is not for me to make that determination.

I try to do right by God's law but it's tough for a sinner like me.
Most thumpers would sh*t green if they heard the sins I've reveled in.
Beauty is, Jesus has my back.

. I have a reigious/philosophical question. When you say Jesus has your back, do you BELIEVE Jesus has your back, or do you KNOW Jesus has your back.

I found someone who shook my hand! Refreshing! Maybe a gig coming up.

I found someone who shook my hand! Refreshing! Maybe a gig coming up.

Are you missing a watch by any chance?

I found someone who shook my hand! Refreshing! Maybe a gig coming up.

Are you missing a watch by any chance?

THAT was harsh..lol

I found someone who shook my hand! Refreshing! Maybe a gig coming up.

Yeah? But did you make sure he had washed his hands first?

FBob is right on this for sure. It's not our job to ensure both sides of a deal. If we insist ourselves on acting forthrightly, we've held up our end of it.

Obviously it pays also to be circumspect. Trust everyone but lock your car and carry a 1911.

Talbot

Yeah Bob ... after all, I am just a man.

. Most likely a righteous man, but it is not for me to make that determination.

I try to do right by God's law but it's tough for a sinner like me.
Most thumpers would sh*t green if they heard the sins I've reveled in.
Beauty is, Jesus has my back.

. I have a religious/philosophical question. When you say Jesus has your back, do you BELIEVE Jesus has your back, or do you KNOW Jesus has your back.

I don't even use the word "believe" any longer when discussing or attempting to describe my faith because the modern connotation of "believe" would indicate some room for doubt.

I know Jesus has my back and I'm doing my best to walk in his light despite my sinful nature.
The Lord God speaks to me through the Spirit now like no time before in my life.

That is what I want to convey through my music.

FBob is right on this for sure. It's not our job to ensure both sides of a deal. If we insist ourselves on acting forthrightly, we've held up our end of it.

Obviously it pays also to be circumspect. Trust everyone but lock your car and carry a 1911.

Talbot

Yeah Bob ... after all, I am just a man.

. Most likely a righteous man, but it is not for me to make that determination.

I try to do right by God's law but it's tough for a sinner like me.
Most thumpers would sh*t green if they heard the sins I've reveled in.
Beauty is, Jesus has my back.

. I have a religious/philosophical question. When you say Jesus has your back, do you BELIEVE Jesus has your back, or do you KNOW Jesus has your back.

I don't even use the word "believe" any longer when discussing or attempting to describe my faith because the modern connotation of "believe" would indicate some room for doubt.

I know Jesus has my back and I'm doing my best to walk in his light despite my sinful nature.
The Lord God speaks to me through the Spirit now like no time before in my life.

That is what I want to convey through my music.

I don't know if I will every truly walk in his light... All I know is that I try... I don't really care what the world thinks of it...at the end of the day, its down to me and Jesus working it out. Belief or Knowing... That's just a matter of semnatics and hair splitting...I'd be a liar if I told you I had NO doubts. I doubt every day...but conversely to what you said about implying doubt, Having doubt would also suggest faith. No matter how we label the struggles, it comes down to us being "IN" or "OUT" ..

I have a feeling that It is better to be a heinous, lowly thief, who then seeks the path of light, than to be a model citizen, squeaky clean, who thinks he's already found it...

You've missed the point entirely my friend as so often is the case.

There are no squeaky clean model citizens.

We are all phuckin sinners ... no one better no one worse.

I seek His light because I know Him.

I doubt ... only in myself.

What I have trouble is grasping the concept of "knowing" you are saved. Some people who commit sin, some heinous crimes, then claim they are saved by the grace of Jesus. I have always had trouble with this concept. How does one really know for sure? That's what I can't get a handle on. I don't think it's possible for mere mortals to know. I've been told by more than a few people that I have my place in heaven reserved for me just by what I have done for my son. I just don't feel comfortable making that judgement or other people making that judgement for me. Sans, you mentioned that everybody is a "phuckin sinner." I don't believe everbody is a sinner, or in other words I CANNOT make that judgement. I am not qualified to make that judgement. In my opinion a mortal man cannot make those kind of judgements about others and especially about ourselves. We certainly can believe, but knowing for sure what only God can know? I just cannot grasp it.

are you faithful, that's the question, not, do you have faith.
can you be trusted?
can you wait?
do you tell the truth, are you merciful, could you let someone off the hook even though they don't deserve it, take the hook cause you know they can't handle it?
pay a debt you do not owe, let God settle the score with your enemies, instead of doing it your self and be wrong in everyone's eyes even though you know you are right?
Be there because God is busy else where.
these things are far more important to God than you're idea of who he is or badge you might ware.

am I faithful?


not very often

it's not so hard to know where our crimes are hid,
really.

Funny how we started " shaking hands" and end up having a religious talk. Conversations can end up going in any direction around here. That's alright by me.

Funny how we started " shaking hands" and end up having a religious talk. Conversations can end up going in any direction around here. That's alright by me.

That's alright by me.[/quote]

Wow thats the beginning of a great song Bob! Cool.

You've missed the point entirely my friend as so often is the case.

There are no squeaky clean model citizens.

We are all phuckin sinners ... no one better no one worse.

I seek His light because I know Him.

I doubt ... only in myself.

I seek his light because I 'want " to know him... Right now, I only know 'about' him, and what he prescribes.. I'm actually more concerned that he knows me... When I read " I knew you not" , then that has me wondering what I need to do to get noticed. I already know I'm saved, so that aint my concern.

I'm not trying to bust your chops here, but it is a bit condescending to say I miss the point... I see more Christians fall apart because they get pompous about their role with Christ... Hitler was just as adamant about Christianity as the entire bible belt of Texas is... Frankly I am tired of the self-righteous indignation that I see around me. Its embarrassing and I believe it misrepresents the real love that Christ is about.

Again, not trying to bust your chops but i am keepin it real.

Funny how we started " shaking hands" and end up having a religious talk. Conversations can end up going in any direction around here. That's alright by me.

That's alright by me.

Wow thats the beginning of a great song Bob! Cool.[/quote]

Already been done...I Think it was Elvis...