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#171229 by Lynard Dylan
Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:08 am
Seven

Peaceful beginning, sounds like 3AM
Dreamy sounding guitar solo at about 1:40
Sounds like the Starfish, who hit the pf button, lol
Mr Scott you could use a little more excitement in
your singing voice,(It's good, perhaps a little mono tone)
I'm ready to here something kickazz from you Mr Scott,
if you got hit the pf button turn the dial towards Young Lust,
or Have a Cigar rock and f#cking roll.
Everyone dies protecting their greed and their lies,
perhaps we do

#171413 by Starfish Scott
Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:43 pm
I am glad you like it, Lynard.

The PF button? lol I wish I had one.

This tune was constructed with no genre or style in mind.

(I can't really write that way and I can't speak for my cohort, but I believe that we intended to write and let whatever style or genre come to the top for each and every tune we wrote.

Like we stated previous to this, the fact that it may sound like PF is accidental and/or unintentional. We were just trying to finish it and keep it intact.

I have to say that my favorite part of the whole she-bang is 4:10 where the synth opera/space opera/space oddity kicks in is my most favorite part of the entire piece.

The whole thing reminds me of "Silent Running". I love that flick. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckJBvl_uT0

#171441 by JazzAnarchy
Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:01 pm
"Mark of the Sloth?"

Good band name...

Anyway, it's occured to me that me being on this site is kind of misleading, since I don't actually have a "band." I'm in a few, but I'm just in them for the money. I'm not actually stimulated in most of them, most of the musicians aren't as committed to music as I am. I did notice that in one of the groups, it was hard to get the drummer and guitar player to, well, you know, actually work, so I was hoping for some suggestions on this thread that wasn't "kick them out."

I don't mind kicking them out, it's just too much of a bother finding new ones. But like I said, it's not my band anyway.

#171467 by PaperDog
Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:18 pm
JazzAnarchy wrote:"Mark of the Sloth?"

Good band name...

Anyway, it's occured to me that me being on this site is kind of misleading, since I don't actually have a "band." I'm in a few, but I'm just in them for the money. I'm not actually stimulated in most of them, most of the musicians aren't as committed to music as I am. I did notice that in one of the groups, it was hard to get the drummer and guitar player to, well, you know, actually work, so I was hoping for some suggestions on this thread that wasn't "kick them out."

I don't mind kicking them out, it's just too much of a bother finding new ones. But like I said, it's not my band anyway.


Well The first thing is 'your' role in that scenario. If they think you aren't committed, they got nothing to prove to you...

So, Now let's say you are fully committed (And yes that will show) ...If they still don't want to work with you...cut em a deal... Set a goal... like. Can we get four songs down by next month so we can tear up the club down the street?... If they drink and drug, they just wasting everybody's time ..(and you know what ya gotta do then)

#171518 by Starfish Scott
Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:25 pm
Nice thread hijack, guys.

So what did you think of "Seven" if you don't mind me asking on the thread I started??!!?!?!?

LOL

"Talk about easily distracted"..

#171520 by JCP61
Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:30 pm
I think I was on the wrong profile.
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#171523 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:46 pm
Scotty, I love some of the other music you have done. It seems there is some discord between you and some of the players. I would move on.
It's not your strongest song and I wouldn't beat myself up over it.
Your strong point is actually that mindset of producing that ethereal, acid type of sound.
Don't give up, I wouldn't write this if I didn't believe in you.

#171557 by Lynard Dylan
Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:49 am
I kinda agree with Glen, Mr Scott, your ability
to compose play, and record your material, is
a ability many don't have, now you've reached
the hard part where it needs to be polished and
presented.

Composition is what separates the players from
the innovators.

Hope you and Les are cool, people are so hard to
get along with, and musician's take so many things
to heart, that are just a outside criticism of some
minor musical point. Players that mesh are hard to
find, especially when you've gotta weed out all the
wannabe players.

#171608 by PaperDog
Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:28 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:Nice thread hijack, guys.



"Talk about easily distracted"..


I'm Sorry...what is it you wanted? LOL! ;)

#171678 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:46 am
It is what it is.

I've already said, "I'd rather be able to make them cry on a regular basis than anything else". (empathic performance)

And that's what I am doing well. I just played a little ways back with a friend of mine, we played "Invisible Light" and some woman burst out into tears. (I felt like yelling "YEAAAHHH".)

So the vocal depressed you>? Good .. If wanted you to laugh, I would have punched you in the gut. Maybe we should play circus music to amuse you? Don't give up your day job, JCP. If you think I am going to play happier music because you think I should, you are stone cold stupid.

lol The way you guys talk I am toeing the ledge on a tall building.
Relax, you mucks.

Just taking it a day at a time for now.
Whatever is supposed to happen will and conversely not.

"Seacrest out" LOL

And to think I liked that tune.. :)

#171684 by PaperDog
Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:12 am
Okay Scott

I listened to seven (Actually twice now)

My opinion...

The Good

I really do like the progression of the song. Coupled with the consistent beat and the manner of breaks and transitions, Its an outstanding effort. The melody is decent and works with gesture of the song.


The Bad
The first half of the song , it was hard to discern your vocals (the words seemed like a giant run-on sentance). As such, the theme of "Seven" was lost on me from the starting gate. Could it have something to do with the effect you put on the track? if so, reel it in a bit so that the First half of the song becomes as discernible as the last half was

There I gave you my earnest assessment:

Disclaimer:
No animals were harmed or injured during the making of this opinion. The names of the names of the characters depicted in the depiction of this depiction were protected from the innocent.

#171694 by JCP61
Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:49 am
couldn't find the song referred to.
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#171720 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:32 pm
JCP61 wrote:
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:It is what it is.

I've already said, "I'd rather be able to make them cry on a regular basis than anything else". (empathic performance)

And that's what I am doing well. I just played a little ways back with a friend of mine, we played "Invisible Light" and some woman burst out into tears. (I felt like yelling "YEAAAHHH".)

So the vocal depressed you>? Good .. If wanted you to laugh, I would have punched you in the gut. Maybe we should play circus music to amuse you? Don't give up your day job, JCP. If you think I am going to play happier music because you think I should, you are stone cold stupid.

lol The way you guys talk I am toeing the ledge on a tall building.
Relax, you mucks.

Just taking it a day at a time for now.
Whatever is supposed to happen will and conversely not.

"Seacrest out" LOL

And to think I liked that tune.. :)



I don't expect you to do anything,
I wasn't waiting on the edge of my seat for you to produce any music
at all,
you asked me to listen and tell you what I thought, out of courtesy I did.
but I won't again.
so don't you worry about me taking time to consider what you might be painting.
you stand there and admire it by your self.


Sorry JCP, I keep forgetting that you are a "johnny come lately" and you haven't been here for the other stuff that got posted.

"Critique" means that you identify that which is unsoundly constructed in the tune. It doesn't mean that I'd want an opinionated answer about which genre to write in.

Say if I wrote some "metal", you can pick it apart all you want until you suggest it should be "county and western".

PS: FOLKS I said it like 10x now. THIS TUNE IS NOT MASTERED, i.e. it is going to have technical flaws. It is definitely not as polished as the others.
IT IS UNFINISHED !~!!!!

And I don't know who the stool pigeon is, but someone tattled on me.

I got the word from "on high", this is to be mastered here in about a week or more? I am not "pushing" at all. I don't write well with everyone because most people are dumber than sh*t and I just basically can't take it. I write well with Les because he plays keys WELL.

So if we have some bumps in the road, I am ok with it.
Les turns out a superior product, although I don't always know what it's going to be and/or when it's done.

I'd rather have the issues I have than to turn out sh*t at a fast pace.

If I was technically inclined, I could turn out plenty of crap very quickly.
But who really wants crap? and I am a technical kitten.
I maybe a creative tiger, but definitely a technical kitten and I eat absolutely zero kitty litter. lol

#171724 by PaperDog
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:01 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:
JCP61 wrote:
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:It is what it is.

I've already said, "I'd rather be able to make them cry on a regular basis than anything else". (empathic performance)

And that's what I am doing well. I just played a little ways back with a friend of mine, we played "Invisible Light" and some woman burst out into tears. (I felt like yelling "YEAAAHHH".)

So the vocal depressed you>? Good .. If wanted you to laugh, I would have punched you in the gut. Maybe we should play circus music to amuse you? Don't give up your day job, JCP. If you think I am going to play happier music because you think I should, you are stone cold stupid.

lol The way you guys talk I am toeing the ledge on a tall building.
Relax, you mucks.

Just taking it a day at a time for now.
Whatever is supposed to happen will and conversely not.

"Seacrest out" LOL

And to think I liked that tune.. :)



I don't expect you to do anything,
I wasn't waiting on the edge of my seat for you to produce any music
at all,
you asked me to listen and tell you what I thought, out of courtesy I did.
but I won't again.
so don't you worry about me taking time to consider what you might be painting.
you stand there and admire it by your self.


Sorry JCP, I keep forgetting that you are a "johnny come lately" and you haven't been here for the other stuff that got posted.

"Critique" means that you identify that which is unsoundly constructed in the tune. It doesn't mean that I'd want an opinionated answer about which genre to write in.

Say if I wrote some "metal", you can pick it apart all you want until you suggest it should be "county and western".

PS: FOLKS I said it like 10x now. THIS TUNE IS NOT MASTERED, i.e. it is going to have technical flaws. It is definitely not as polished as the others.
IT IS UNFINISHED !~!!!!

And I don't know who the stool pigeon is, but someone tattled on me.

I got the word from "on high", this is to be mastered here in about a week or more? I am not "pushing" at all. I don't write well with everyone because most people are dumber than sh*t and I just basically can't take it. I write well with Les because he plays keys WELL.

So if we have some bumps in the road, I am ok with it.
Les turns out a superior product, although I don't always know what it's going to be and/or when it's done.

I'd rather have the issues I have than to turn out sh*t at a fast pace.

If I was technically inclined, I could turn out plenty of crap very quickly.
But who really wants crap? and I am a technical kitten.
I maybe a creative tiger, but definitely a technical kitten and I eat absolutely zero kitty litter. lol


Its an age old dilemma Scott. When one asks for a critique , one forgets that they are asking others to wade through uncertainty AND to take the risk that what they are about to hear may be embarrassing and/or painful...Then to ask them to assemble a reasonable critique that's constructive...whether they are delighted or sickened.. The message here I guess, ... we should be careful to 'not bite the ear we feed'.

BTW cool photos on your profile... The Infamous Scott has a face, after all... ;)

#171726 by Starfish Scott
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:31 pm
(Shhhhh..Paper. Geeze..you going to post my tax returns next? lol)

And I love critiques, as long as they don't say something completely useless like, "you should take up folk music".

I had a guy tell me that in person after a open mic and I was tempted to kick his ass. My one buddy told me later that "this is how he gives a compliment/comment" as in "some compliments/comments are half-assed" to be sure.

Constructive criticism = the more the better.
This is how we make it better.

Personal conclusions drawn about intangibles = bleh..
Personally, everyone likes something different.

"We don't write music in any particular fashion, it just ends up what it is at the conclusion".

I.E. If it sounds like PF, whatever. Next time it might be the kinks or oasis or donovan or dead or moe or korn or type o negative.
(I'm sure I left out a few)

You just don't know until it's done and neither do I.
I kind of thought it might be PFish as we were finishing it, but I really thought it was more like the Kinks. (oh well)

We'll see what you think of it when the mary-go-round is done spinning.

At very least it will give you a good "before vs after" take on what goes on musically and technically speaking.

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